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How Could Someone Do This?!
« on: January 19, 2011, 12:06:54 PM »
https://www.dailynews.com/news/ci_17137459?source=rss

I couldn't even read the whole article, it's sickening! How could someone induce the labor of a 6-8 month 'baby' then kill it by cutting through the back with scissors and cutting the spinal cord? Thoughts? This is SO sad, I say he needs to DEFINITELY be charged and convicted of murder.
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Re: How Could Someone Do This?!
« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2011, 12:10:25 PM »
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Re: How Could Someone Do This?!
« Reply #2 on: January 19, 2011, 12:12:22 PM »
What's the problem?
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Re: How Could Someone Do This?!
« Reply #3 on: January 19, 2011, 12:12:27 PM »
He was hungry?

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Re: How Could Someone Do This?!
« Reply #4 on: January 19, 2011, 12:16:09 PM »
am i the only one that thinks it's inhumane? could you actually do that? have a newborn baby in your hands, crying and looking at you with innocence then turn it over and kill it right there?
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Re: How Could Someone Do This?!
« Reply #5 on: January 19, 2011, 12:16:48 PM »
just even thinking about that makes me tear up..
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Re: How Could Someone Do This?!
« Reply #6 on: January 19, 2011, 12:17:08 PM »
Checks article.

He's from Philly.  No wonder.  Probably a Phillies fan also.

Extremely un-cool story, bro.  Takes a soulless piece of sh*t to do stuff like this.

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« Reply #7 on: January 19, 2011, 12:19:07 PM »
It's inhumane sure, but I think humanitiy's capacity for inhumanity (what a f**king stupid construction) has been well demonstrated at this point in history. There were people willing to pay, and they found someone with a low enough level of compassion to view it as a late term abortion and treat the deaths as clinical. He will be punished. The would will continue to spew gits like him out on occasion, and assuming they are caught, we will punish them too.
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Re: How Could Someone Do This?!
« Reply #8 on: January 19, 2011, 12:22:06 PM »
but just reading about this shit scares me, and really pulls me back into the reality that there are people out there who are like this.  and for the mothers to resort to this is beyond poor judgment.  there are hundreds of thousands of people who would give anything to have a child, imagine if they were to read this..how would they feel?
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« Reply #9 on: January 19, 2011, 12:23:37 PM »
but just reading about this shit scares me, and really pulls me back into the reality that there are people out there who are like this.  and for the mothers to resort to this is beyond poor judgment.  there are hundreds of thousands of people who would give anything to have a child, imagine if they were to read this..how would they feel?

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Re: How Could Someone Do This?!
« Reply #10 on: January 19, 2011, 12:24:19 PM »
maybe that's it..?
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Re: How Could Someone Do This?!
« Reply #11 on: January 19, 2011, 12:25:07 PM »
They would feel that the world is not a fair or just place.


I agree the article and the doctor's actions are/were shocking....but saying anything more will get us into an abortion godly debate better suited for other parts of this forum.
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Re: How Could Someone Do This?!
« Reply #12 on: January 19, 2011, 12:26:36 PM »
maybe that's it..?

Is the guy who gives women who came to him willingly, horrible late term abortions or whatever they're called really worse than the people who slaughter and torture adults and children in other countries? No. But one you're distanced from and don't care as much about. That's the difference.

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Re: How Could Someone Do This?!
« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2011, 12:28:09 PM »
They deserved it.

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Re: How Could Someone Do This?!
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2011, 12:32:35 PM »
While terrible, I feel like severing their spinal chords is probably one of the more humane ways to kill a baby.
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Re: How Could Someone Do This?!
« Reply #15 on: January 19, 2011, 01:05:47 PM »
just even thinking about that makes me tear up..
Me too. I can't imagine having the desire to kill a person, and to kill a baby... That takes a special kind of sicko.

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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2011, 01:24:40 PM »
just even thinking about that makes me tear up..
Me too. I can't imagine having the desire to kill a person, and to kill a baby... That takes a special kind of sicko.
Or a person who views it as an abortion and nothing more.  You suggest that he acted out of some since of pleasure or satisfaction.  He might just as well have considered his actions a medical procedure.  We can certainly dispute that, but to try and infer his mindset isn't just. 
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Re: How Could Someone Do This?!
« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2011, 01:27:48 PM »
Even if a person views it merely as abortion it takes one cold motherfucker to deliver a baby which is basically fully developed and then kill it.

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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2011, 01:29:06 PM »
Also, it's understandable to wonder how ANY woman could do something like this when there are so many that WANT to have babies - however, the article mentioned that he performed on minorities, immigrants, and poor women - likely all people who feared the destitution that would potentially come with another mouth to have to feed.  When you're at the very bottom of the barrel (or the very bottom of the social order), I'm sure it's amazing and sometimes unnerving what you'll do to stay alive.  I do not speak from experience and hope never to have to.

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Re: How Could Someone Do This?!
« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2011, 01:32:07 PM »
yea i would have to say it is not really inhuman, it's in humanity to come up with twisted things like this. he's just a sociopath that's all, kill him and get it over with.
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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2011, 01:33:55 PM »
It's inhumane sure, but I think humanitiy's capacity for inhumanity (what a f**king stupid construction) has been well demonstrated at this point in history. There were people willing to pay, and they found someone with a low enough level of compassion to view it as a late term abortion and treat the deaths as clinical. He will be punished. The would will continue to spew gits like him out on occasion, and assuming they are caught, we will punish them too.
This exactly.

just even thinking about that makes me tear up..
Me too. I can't imagine having the desire to kill a person, and to kill a baby... That takes a special kind of sicko.
Or a person who views it as an abortion and nothing more.  You suggest that he acted out of some since of pleasure or satisfaction.  He might just as well have considered his actions a medical procedure.  We can certainly dispute that, but to try and infer his mindset isn't just. 
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Re: How Could Someone Do This?!
« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2011, 01:37:35 PM »
yea i would have to say it is not really inhuman, it's in humanity to come up with twisted things like this. he's just a sociopath that's all, kill him and get it over with.
There's no reason whatsoever to pronounce him a sociopath.  I and others have pointed out scenarios where he could have viewed his actions as being valid for the good of others.
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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2011, 02:10:31 PM »
What a spineless man.

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Seriously though. This guy is horrible. It's so sad...

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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2011, 02:14:52 PM »
just even thinking about that makes me tear up..
Me too. I can't imagine having the desire to kill a person, and to kill a baby... That takes a special kind of sicko.
Or a person who views it as an abortion and nothing more.

It's tantamount to an abortion.  Sure, holding and looking at it adds another layer of emotion to the situation that most have a harder time dealing with, but it's still just a human in an early stage of development.  Not sure why people don't get this; an "out of sight, out of mind" thing, I assume.

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Re: How Could Someone Do This?!
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2011, 02:52:40 PM »
Guys guys guys, let's not put the cart before the horse here. We don't know the whole story, this could have been a case of self-defense! Let's not start naming victims before we know what kind of back-alley shit that baby was involved in.

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« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2011, 03:34:23 PM »
Who gave Hat McCullough a medical license?

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Re: To be fair, I bet those babies were probably being total dicks
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Who gave Hat McCullough a medical license?

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« Reply #27 on: January 19, 2011, 04:21:43 PM »
This gets me angry, so angry that I am seriously considering becoming a hermit and cutting off all contact with the outside world.
how could someone even jokingly justify this kind of behavior?
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« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2011, 04:22:57 PM »
This gets me angry, so angry that I am seriously considering becoming a hermit and cutting off all contact with the outside world.
how could someone even jokingly justify this kind of behavior?
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« Reply #29 on: January 19, 2011, 04:35:19 PM »
just even thinking about that makes me tear up..

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« Reply #30 on: January 19, 2011, 04:49:27 PM »
The Philly media is having a field day with this one.  Apparently there's been complaints against this "doctor" for the last 17 years or so and he was just now inspected.  WTF?

I don't want to spark a debate about whether or not abortion should be legal (because personally I think it should be) but wow this is just fucking sick.
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Re: How Could Someone Do This?!
« Reply #31 on: January 19, 2011, 04:50:59 PM »
I know everyone is really quick to jump on this doctor, but what about all of these countless mothers who chose to get this done?
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« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2011, 05:52:09 PM »
"The clinic was shut down and Gosnell's medical license was suspended after the raid.

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« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2011, 05:55:53 PM »
Just...wow.  I don't know whether to  :omg: or  :'(

So...anyone want to take bets on how long it takes the ACLU to file a case?
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« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2011, 06:03:20 PM »
Just...wow.  I don't know whether to  :omg: or  :'(

So...anyone want to take bets on how long it takes the ACLU to file a case?

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