Author Topic: Blackfield (Read 130462 times)

ariich · « **Reply #315 on:** April 05, 2011, 02:19:00 PM »

Ben he's not saying that your opinion was bad, but when half the review is discussing whether the band "has a point" rather than what the album is like, it's naturally going to not sit well with a fan of it. I also find it a strange approach to a review, but one that I see a lot online, particularly in negative reviews.

bodiesinflight · « **Reply #316 on:** April 05, 2011, 02:27:35 PM »

Rich, that's fine for us on here because we all know a lot about Blackfield but most of our readers do not. The first paragraph is all about how some might find it strange that this collabaration exists, what's the problem with that. The only judgement I make as a result of the introductory paragraph is a positive one,

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Blackfield proved that it did have a point

. I could've spent that paragraph saying that this album was a total waste of time but I didn't because I wanted to make the point that even though many would say this is not a massively important project, I feel that there's no reason it should be considered as such.

And you can say

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he's not saying that your opinion was bad

but if that's the case why does the post which basically reads:
Really bad review as:
- You unfairly suggest that the band has no point (which I do not)
- The lyrics are amazing
- You need to listen again, you are clearly wrong / you clearly have not listened to the record enough

ariich · « **Reply #317 on:** April 05, 2011, 02:34:37 PM »

Well for a start you seem to think this album is vastly different to the first two in some way, which most of us really can't see at all, it's incredibly similar. So from that point of view, perhaps listening more is appropriate. But Quad may have meant that listening more will make you suddenly like it more, which would obviously be ridiculous.

And regarding the descriptive introduction, of course I can completely see the point of it, Blackfield are hardly a well-known band. For sure you pass a positive judgement in relation to their first two albums, it just seems strange to me to start by question the band's purpose in the first place. Surely just an introduction to who they are would be less controversial? Or am I missing the point on that one?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not attacking your review; like I said I just find the approach a little odd, and it makes the review fairly inaccessible IMO.

bodiesinflight · « **Reply #318 on:** April 05, 2011, 02:40:08 PM »

Fair enough, you've given reasons for your opinion Rich and that's fine. That's very different to just attacking something because you disagree with it.

I didn't say that it was musically or lyrically different from the first two records, so I'm not sure where you've got the thing about me saying it's vastly different from. I just say that the quality was not there this time because, frankly, I don't believe it was.

If I didn't question the band's purpose at the beginning then it'd just result in me being much harsher on the band about this album later on so actually it was a way of gently easing in to what I wanted to say believe it or not!

ariich · « **Reply #319 on:** April 05, 2011, 02:49:01 PM »

Quote from: bodiesinflight on April 05, 2011, 02:40:08 PM

If I didn't question the band's purpose at the beginning then it'd just result in me being much harsher on the band about this album later on so actually it was a way of gently easing in to what I wanted to say believe it or not!

I can kinda see that, but I'm not sure it's quite worked.

Ah well each to their own.

I don't understand your view of Blood either, I love it! Keeps getting stuck in my head.

KevShmev · « **Reply #320 on:** April 05, 2011, 02:55:47 PM »

I'm not gonna bash the review, but who cares if the project has a point or not? Wilson and Geffen obviously get along and like making music together; that is good enough for me. Not everything has to have a point. Sometimes, musicians want to get together and write music for the fun of it. To overanalyze it IS missing the point of music.

ariich · « **Reply #321 on:** April 05, 2011, 03:01:04 PM »

Does anyone else think that Oxygen sounds exactly like a Feeder song?

jag66 · « **Reply #322 on:** April 05, 2011, 04:06:40 PM »

Quote from: ariich on April 05, 2011, 03:01:04 PM

Does anyone else think that Oxygen sounds exactly like a Feeder song?

Not really

AcidLameLTE · « **Reply #323 on:** April 05, 2011, 04:07:03 PM »

Quote from: ariich on April 05, 2011, 09:21:28 AM

I think my dad would prefer that to having you bothering him all day.

Well, turns out I can't get free movies in other cities until after working there for 3 months so I guess I'll be wandering about London for a while.

ariich · « **Reply #324 on:** April 05, 2011, 04:08:17 PM »

Quote from: AcidRainLTE on April 05, 2011, 04:07:03 PM

Quote from: ariich on April 05, 2011, 09:21:28 AM
I think my dad would prefer that to having you bothering him all day.
Well, turns out I can't get free movies in other cities until after working there for 3 months so I guess I'll be wandering about London for a while.

OH LAME.

Does this mean we're not going to have our man-date on Thursday?

AcidLameLTE · « **Reply #325 on:** April 05, 2011, 04:12:21 PM »

I'm sure I can manage a student cinema ticket

ariich · « **Reply #326 on:** April 05, 2011, 04:14:55 PM »

Good man.

DarkLord_Lalinc · « **Reply #327 on:** April 05, 2011, 05:06:43 PM »

why cant i go with you guys

skydivingninja · « **Reply #328 on:** April 05, 2011, 07:58:27 PM »

Tell these stupid US stores to stock the freaking album so I can buy it.

Sintheros · « **Reply #329 on:** April 06, 2011, 12:47:37 AM »

Quick! Someone recommend me some songs so I can let them grow on me over the next month and a half.

FretMuppet · « **Reply #330 on:** April 06, 2011, 12:58:54 AM »

Quote from: Sintheros on April 06, 2011, 12:47:37 AM

Quick! Someone recommend me some songs so I can let them grow on me over the next month and a half.

Sad: Hello, Pain, 1000 people, Some Day

Epic: End of the World, Epidemic, Once, DNA, Blackfield

'Different': The Hole In me, Blood, Cloudy Now

mizzl · « **Reply #331 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:20:20 AM »

Quote from: FretMuppet on April 06, 2011, 12:58:54 AM

Quote from: Sintheros on April 06, 2011, 12:47:37 AM
Quick! Someone recommend me some songs so I can let them grow on me over the next month and a half.

Sad: Hello, Pain, 1000 people, Some Day, LULLABY

Epic: End of the World, Epidemic, Once, DNA, Blackfield

'Different': The Hole In me, Blood, Cloudy Now

How did you miss this?

Sintheros · « **Reply #332 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:27:44 AM »

Quote from: FretMuppet on April 06, 2011, 12:58:54 AM

Quote from: Sintheros on April 06, 2011, 12:47:37 AM
Quick! Someone recommend me some songs so I can let them grow on me over the next month and a half.

Sad: Hello, Pain, 1000 people, Some Day

Epic: End of the World, Epidemic, Once, DNA, Blackfield

'Different': The Hole In me, Blood, Cloudy Now

*Picks one at random*

*5 minutes later*

AN EPIDEMIC IN MY HEART

faemir · « **Reply #333 on:** April 06, 2011, 12:59:04 PM »

Two days to go!

zxlkho · « **Reply #334 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:01:15 PM »

SO JELLY

I have to wait until May 20th.

faemir · « **Reply #335 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:04:15 PM »

My ticket and travel are free, problem?

zxlkho · « **Reply #336 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:22:02 PM »

ZBomber · « **Reply #337 on:** April 06, 2011, 01:25:31 PM »

Quote from: Sintheros on April 06, 2011, 12:47:37 AM

Quick! Someone recommend me some songs so I can let them grow on me over the next month and a half.

My Gift of Silence. Probably the best Blackfield song.

Marvellous G · « **Reply #338 on:** April 06, 2011, 02:09:46 PM »

Listening to the new one again in an attempt to like it more before the concert.

Marvellous G · « **Reply #339 on:** April 06, 2011, 02:22:27 PM »

Ha, Waving totally is the best track. Oh well, guess I'm just really not a fan of Aviv's writing style.

zxlkho · « **Reply #340 on:** April 06, 2011, 05:34:21 PM »

I don't know. DNA and Oxygen are both close.

DarkLord_Lalinc · « **Reply #341 on:** April 06, 2011, 06:05:08 PM »

HOLY CARP GUYS

I seriously love the new album. It's a grower.

ZBomber · « **Reply #342 on:** April 06, 2011, 06:18:04 PM »

DNA is definitely my favorite on the new album, with Waving and Far Away close behind. It's so beautiful and depressing.

Sintheros · « **Reply #343 on:** April 07, 2011, 01:36:15 AM »

DNA's awfully good. It's certainly the song of theirs I've listened to the most since....yesterday....behind Epidemic anyway.

ariich · « **Reply #344 on:** April 07, 2011, 07:44:04 AM »

Quote from: faemir on April 06, 2011, 12:59:04 PM

Two days to go!

Oh awesome, didn't realise you were coming!

So is everyone up for getting beers on the way and just drinking in the queue?

faemir · « **Reply #345 on:** April 07, 2011, 01:59:46 PM »

I'm not sure how it's going down for me, I'm getting a lift there and back with someone. I dont even know where I am as my friend bought the ticket for me.

Can you drop me your number and we can maybe meetup?

ariich · « **Reply #346 on:** April 08, 2011, 01:35:35 AM »

Sent you a text last night, do you still have the same number?

faemir · « **Reply #347 on:** April 08, 2011, 01:57:40 AM »

i think so but i didnt get it.

07866319311

ariich · « **Reply #348 on:** April 08, 2011, 02:41:43 AM »

Weird, I had a different number for you!

Anyway me, Harry and Ian are meeting at Oxford Circus at 5 and then heading to Shepherd's Bush from there; probably get a couple of beers from an offie and also some food of some kind, to eat and drink in the queue. Feel free to join us at any stage of the process!

Do you have my number from back at the Opeth gig (it hasn't changed) or shall I text you so you have it?

faemir · « **Reply #349 on:** April 08, 2011, 03:10:11 AM »

Nah I don't

Text me instead

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Author Topic: Blackfield (Read 130462 times)