Author Topic: The Prophets of War Appreciation Thread (Read 12040 times)

JayOctavarium · « **on:** January 05, 2011, 02:00:41 AM »

Great song. Why does it get so much hate? I for one love it... Does anyone else?

Zydar · « **Reply #1 on:** January 05, 2011, 02:02:14 AM »

Pretty good song, I really like the guitar riff in it. Can't understand the animosity towards the song.

MirzekDT · « **Reply #2 on:** January 05, 2011, 02:14:55 AM »

I also like it very much I used to love it and it was one of my favorite songs on SC. Now I don't like it that much anymore but it's still a great song. And what I really don't get is the hate against it I mean disliking is obvious everybody likes something else but why so much hate?

yeshaberto · « **Reply #3 on:** January 05, 2011, 02:15:17 AM »

great song....always wish I had flown to NY to try and get in on the joint vocals and regret it every time I hear the tune
such a great chorus

Gadough · « **Reply #4 on:** January 05, 2011, 02:40:17 AM »

Well...it's better than Forsaken.

Sixtease · « **Reply #5 on:** January 05, 2011, 03:12:02 AM »

What a great single it would be! I love it.

tri.ad · « **Reply #6 on:** January 05, 2011, 03:23:50 AM »

I like how catchy this song is. Although I can see why one can dislike it (and there are many reasons), I kind of dig it. Would have preferred the first minute being without any vocals, though. It would have done the song some good imo.

Mladen · « **Reply #7 on:** January 05, 2011, 03:56:07 AM »

I think we had a thread like this a while ago...

And it's a really good song. A lot of crazy stuff going on, fantastic performance by James, it's just a fun track.

RoeDent · « **Reply #8 on:** January 05, 2011, 04:00:08 AM »

I like this song very much. It is perhaps the only Dream Theater song you can dance to.

I think some of the hate toward the song is for the lyrics, tbh. People probably think DT shouldn't do political songs or something like that. And probably because of MP's spoken-word/'rap' in the middle.

Lowdz · « **Reply #9 on:** January 05, 2011, 04:16:13 AM »

Quote from: Gadough on January 05, 2011, 02:40:17 AM

Well...it's better than Forsaken.

Not in my book. I love Forsaken. i've always said it should have been a duet between the Vampire and victim. Sharon Den Adel to sing the vampire part. Would've made a great video instead of the awful one we got.

Saying that, I like PoW, love the riff and it's one of the few DT riffs I can confidently play with my meagre skills. Not a big fan of the gang vocals, it's a biy cheesy. I'd rather hear PoW than TDEN or CM.

MirzekDT · « **Reply #10 on:** January 05, 2011, 04:47:50 AM »

Quote from: tri.ad on January 05, 2011, 03:23:50 AM

I like how catchy this song is. Although I can see why one can dislike it (and there are many reasons), I kind of dig it. Would have preferred the first minute being without any vocals, though. It would have done the song some good imo.

I remember hearing the intro to POW without vocals before SC came out when the video of fans chanting session came out and it was awesome. I was really looking forward to hear the whole song on the album and when I finally heard that final version with vocals during intro I was a little bit disappointed. However the rest of the song was awesome as I said before it was one of my favorite songs on SC for some time

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #11 on:** January 05, 2011, 05:11:03 AM »

Quote from: RoeDent on January 05, 2011, 04:00:08 AM

I think some of the hate toward the song is for the lyrics, tbh. People probably think DT shouldn't do political songs or something like that. And probably because of MP's spoken-word/'rap' in the middle.

The lyrics are definitely a big problem to those of us who dislike the song, but not because of the reasons you listed.

TAC · « **Reply #12 on:** January 05, 2011, 06:06:51 AM »

I've always liked this song, and I think it's James' best performance on SC. I'm a metal fan, but I like when DT is in a non metal mode.

Nekov · « **Reply #13 on:** January 05, 2011, 06:17:07 AM »

For some strange reason I like this song a lot even though it kinda reminds me to Never Enough which I really hate. It's strange

Quote from: TAC on January 05, 2011, 06:06:51 AM

I've always liked this song, and I think it's James' best performance on SC. I'm a metal fan, but I like when DT is in a non metal mode.

This comment makes it seem like you don't think this song is metal. In which way is it not?

TAC · « **Reply #14 on:** January 05, 2011, 06:18:32 AM »

There are surely metal elements too it. But within the song, there's a variety of styles, and that to me is a great draw to DT for me.

Jamesman42 · « **Reply #15 on:** January 05, 2011, 06:34:20 AM »

It's alright.

But the best vocal performance on SC is definitely the "Angels fall all for you heretic" part.

Dream Team · « **Reply #16 on:** January 05, 2011, 06:58:25 AM »

It has 2 redeeming factors for me: the disco section and the part where they actually let James hit an awesome note ("a change from what it's been")

TAC · « **Reply #17 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:00:31 AM »

Quote from: Dream Team on January 05, 2011, 06:58:25 AM

... and the part where they actually let James hit an awesome note ("a change from what it's been")

I agree.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #18 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:09:40 AM »

Quote from: TAC on January 05, 2011, 06:18:32 AM

There are surely metal elements too it. But within the song, there's a variety of styles, and that to me is a great draw to DT for me.

This is, to me, what makes DT great.

TAC · « **Reply #19 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:22:48 AM »

Quote from: kingshmegland on January 05, 2011, 07:09:40 AM

Quote from: TAC on January 05, 2011, 06:18:32 AM
There are surely metal elements too it. But within the song, there's a variety of styles, and that to me is a great draw to DT for me.

This is, to me, what makes DT great.

Yeah, I'm a metal guy, but I appreciate bands like Yes, but I just don't/can't listen to them for whaterevr reason. But DT puts a harder edged spin on it and I love that.

Nekov · « **Reply #20 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:30:54 AM »

To be honest DT opened the prog doors for me. I was a metal guy too before them, but then when I got into prog that was kind of the end for me. Just can't stop listening to it. Still a metal fan but not that much.

John94 · « **Reply #21 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:39:51 AM »

Is it safe to emerge as a PoW fan now? I actually loved it, I loved the groove and rhythm it has. Fun song. Good vocals, appropriate amounts of heavy(ish) and riffage.

Nekov · « **Reply #22 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:41:49 AM »

Quote from: John94 on January 05, 2011, 07:39:51 AM

Is it safe to emerge as a PoW fan now? I actually loved it, I loved the groove and rhythm it has. Fun song. Good vocals, appropriate amounts of heavy(ish) and riffage.

It is safe as long as you don't rub it on Bosk1's face. He just hates it and might ban you (joke)

King Postwhore · « **Reply #23 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:42:37 AM »

Quote from: TAC on January 05, 2011, 07:22:48 AM

Quote from: kingshmegland on January 05, 2011, 07:09:40 AM
Quote from: TAC on January 05, 2011, 06:18:32 AM
There are surely metal elements too it. But within the song, there's a variety of styles, and that to me is a great draw to DT for me.

This is, to me, what makes DT great.
Yeah, I'm a metal guy, but I appreciate bands like Yes, but I just don't/can't listen to them for whaterevr reason. But DT puts a harder edged spin on it and I love that.

In in early 90's DT melded to genders that I loved. Prog and metal so that's what drew me in.(Or Pulled Me Under

)

goldfalcon · « **Reply #24 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:44:55 AM »

One of my students actually brought this song in for lessons yesterday. We spent an hour learning it, and I gotta say, it definitely upped my appreciation for it. Think I might have to put on SC for a while today.

Alex

The Letter M · « **Reply #25 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:58:34 AM »

Gotta admit, I really enjoy this song. It's got a beat you can dance to

Really though, I think a lot of people are turned off by the lyrics more than the music, but I don't seem to mind the lyrics very much. I know the music gets a bit of flak for being yet another Muse-inspired song, but I think it works for DT, and all the vocal bits in the song are great!

"Prophets Of War"... appreciate!

-Marc.

jdprsaga · « **Reply #26 on:** January 05, 2011, 08:01:12 AM »

I love the song.. altho i think if they would have made it under the 5 min would have been perfect.. maybe taking out the "the only thing that i belive" part.

just saying so it could become a hit. they deserve it.

One question, what is it about the lyrics that some people don't like it (just that i haven't read anything about it before and i'm just curious about their opinion)

goldfalcon · « **Reply #27 on:** January 05, 2011, 08:06:27 AM »

Quote from: jdprsaga on January 05, 2011, 08:01:12 AM

I love the song.. altho i think if they would have made it under the 5 min would have been perfect.. maybe taking out the "the only thing that i belive" part.

just saying so it could become a hit. they deserve it.

One question, what is it about the lyrics that some people don't like it (just that i haven't read anything about it before and i'm just curious about their opinion)

Probably the political slant that's there; not that they haven't done that before. But me personally, I tend to shy away from political tunes mainly because I use music as therapy.

There's enough drama and opinions in real life.

That said, I don't find the lyrics to Prophets of War to be all that blatant. I mean the point gets across, but it doesn't chap my ass like say, some old Bob Dylan tunes.

Alex

RuRoRul · « **Reply #28 on:** January 05, 2011, 08:27:14 AM »

I like the song although it's not one I commonly listen to any more. I understand it's got a very vocal hatedom but to be honest people hate a lot of decent songs. I do think it sounds very like Muse (moreso than any other DT song) but I don't mind.

jonny108 · « **Reply #29 on:** January 05, 2011, 11:00:03 AM »

I really like the song, I'm just not a fan of the spoken bit Mike does....sounds really cheeseball.

Ħ · « **Reply #30 on:** January 05, 2011, 11:07:41 AM »

It's not that PoW is a bad song. I don't hate it. It's just that DT has about 80 songs that are much better.

Space Invader · « **Reply #31 on:** January 05, 2011, 11:14:33 AM »

On the album, the song is only average for me.

LIVE however, the audience energy and chanting adds a whole extra level to the song that really makes it great to listen to and be a part of.

pain of occupation · « **Reply #32 on:** January 05, 2011, 11:32:09 AM »

awesome (appreciation for thread's existance)...i threw PoW on a 5 song playlist as i went to bed last night (and listened to it again this morn).

i think its a great song, though i like never enough better (if we're grouping together any songs with a tinge of muse inspiration in em). i get the feeling the band really enjoyed making it (based on the SC documentary dvd).

also, i kinda like mike's spoken word bit. and really, i gotta give it up to the best vocal performance on the song being mike's "queen moment"

bosk1 · « **Reply #33 on:** January 05, 2011, 12:15:30 PM »

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on January 05, 2011, 05:11:03 AM

Quote from: RoeDent on January 05, 2011, 04:00:08 AM
I think some of the hate toward the song is for the lyrics, tbh. People probably think DT shouldn't do political songs or something like that. And probably because of MP's spoken-word/'rap' in the middle.
The lyrics are definitely a big problem to those of us who dislike the song, but not because of the reasons you listed.

This.

Quote from: TAC on January 05, 2011, 06:18:32 AM

There are surely metal elements too it. But within the song, there's a variety of styles, and that to me is a great draw to DT for me.

Same here. I just don't think this is a song where they blended those styles and did well at it. But, hey, if you enjoy it, good for you.

Oh, and we couldn't possibly let this thread continue without: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCdedrXu1wI

darkshade · « **Reply #34 on:** January 05, 2011, 12:26:33 PM »

Quote from: kingshmegland on January 05, 2011, 07:42:37 AM

Quote from: TAC on January 05, 2011, 07:22:48 AM
Quote from: kingshmegland on January 05, 2011, 07:09:40 AM
Quote from: TAC on January 05, 2011, 06:18:32 AM
There are surely metal elements too it. But within the song, there's a variety of styles, and that to me is a great draw to DT for me.

This is, to me, what makes DT great.
Yeah, I'm a metal guy, but I appreciate bands like Yes, but I just don't/can't listen to them for whaterevr reason. But DT puts a harder edged spin on it and I love that.

In in early 90's DT melded to genders that I loved. Prog and metal so that's what drew me in.(Or Pulled Me Under )

Prog is the man and metal is the woman right?

OT, in regards to PoW, i can take it or leave it, though recently, ive learned to enjoy it. Honestly, it ruins the flow SC has, it should have been a B-Side to Forsaken or CM. TMoLS starting right after Repentance might have made me appreciate TMoLS a little more.

News: Track-by-track video for Fall Into the Light: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ezfzdMpRc0

Author Topic: The Prophets of War Appreciation Thread (Read 12040 times)