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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #35 on: January 04, 2011, 09:39:04 PM »
Eh, 8VM is full of great songs.

But FII could potentially be a great album, putting back in a lot of the "missing" tracks.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2011, 09:41:53 PM »
Quote from: Adami on January 04, 2011, 09:34:54 PM
If you remove all of the fluff from 8vm, you have 2 songs.
You'd better say it's Octavarium and These Walls.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2011, 09:42:56 PM »
Quote from: BrotherH on January 04, 2011, 09:41:53 PM
Quote from: Adami on January 04, 2011, 09:34:54 PM
If you remove all of the fluff from 8vm, you have 2 songs.
You'd better say it's Octavarium and These Walls.

Damnit, you're right. 3 songs.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2011, 09:45:34 PM »
Yeah, but Panic Attack and TROAE are also great from start to finish.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #39 on: January 04, 2011, 09:46:11 PM »
Quote from: Adami on January 04, 2011, 09:42:56 PM
Quote from: BrotherH on January 04, 2011, 09:41:53 PM
Quote from: Adami on January 04, 2011, 09:34:54 PM
If you remove all of the fluff from 8vm, you have 2 songs.
You'd better say it's Octavarium and These Walls.

Damnit, you're right. 3 songs.
aaaaand....Sacrificed Sons?
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #40 on: January 04, 2011, 09:46:31 PM »
Quote from: Jamesman on January 04, 2011, 09:45:34 PM
Yeah, but Panic Attack and TROAE are also great from start to finish.

TROAE is. Panic Attack makes You not Me look like a song that is really good.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #41 on: January 04, 2011, 10:20:07 PM »
WTF Panic Attack is awesome.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #42 on: January 04, 2011, 10:21:44 PM »
Quote from: Jamesman on January 04, 2011, 10:20:07 PM
WTF Panic Attack is awesome.

A real panick attack is more enjoyable than listening to Panic Attack.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #43 on: January 04, 2011, 10:30:10 PM »
I love panic attack, in fact, it's one of my favorite songs on 8V....it's so aggressive and driving. I also think the lyrics on panic attack really accurately describe what it is like to be going through a panic attack.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #44 on: January 04, 2011, 10:30:57 PM »
Quote from: Adami on January 04, 2011, 09:34:54 PM
If you remove all of the fluff from FII, you have a great solid album.

If you remove all of the fluff from 8vm, you have 2 songs.

I can't see how any song on FII is "fluff"....is it because some of them aren't over-the-top, and the lack of odd-time signatures? They are all very solid songs, imo, and very enjoyable. 8VM as well, but I prefer FII.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #45 on: January 04, 2011, 10:32:35 PM »
Quote from: Pumpkin Pie on January 04, 2011, 10:30:57 PM
Quote from: Adami on January 04, 2011, 09:34:54 PM
If you remove all of the fluff from FII, you have a great solid album.

If you remove all of the fluff from 8vm, you have 2 songs.

I can't see how any song on FII is "fluff"....is it because some of them aren't over-the-top, and the lack of odd-time signatures? They are all very solid songs, imo, and very enjoyable. 8VM as well, but I prefer FII.

TROAE and These Walls are two of the 3 songs I'd leave. Both are simple, lack odd time signatures (for the most part) and aren't over the top.

Plus I picked FII as better....NONE of those songs are over the top.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #46 on: January 04, 2011, 10:45:43 PM »
The title track is really the only song from OV that I listen to with any regularity anymore (although I still like both "I Walk Beside You" and "The Root of All Evil" enough to call myself fans of them), while I still dig most of FII pretty often (for when I listen to DT), so FII wins this easily for me. 
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #47 on: January 04, 2011, 11:04:20 PM »
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #48 on: January 04, 2011, 11:12:34 PM »
When I first saw the thread title my thought was "duh. Octavarium"

Octavarium was the first DT album I ever listened to. Ever possessed. Ever legitimately owned.

Then I started thinking, FII is awesome. I may not really like Burning My Soul (version on the album), or It's cut out instrumental section (I refuse to acknowledge Hells Kitchen as a stand alone song)... (even though i dont mind Burning My Soul '96)... and I have some issues with You Not Me and Take Away My Pain (again, the album version)... But I LOVE Peruvian Skies (The song that made me say "hey, I am going to look deeper into this band"), I love ToT and Lines, and New millenium. So it was a very close choice for me. On 8vrm, I used to LOVE it front to back. Now These Walls, 8vrm, and sometimes Sacrificed Sons get listened to, but thats it.

Which to chooose?
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #49 on: January 04, 2011, 11:14:49 PM »
Sometimes its FII, sometimes it's Octavarium. It changes rather often.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #50 on: January 04, 2011, 11:55:35 PM »
Falling into Infinity, by far. 
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #51 on: January 05, 2011, 12:36:26 AM »
I really don't get how 8VM is setter as an album it has the worst track placements ever:
TROAE: "oh yeah this song is badass omg whats next?"
*TALW starts*
"WTF is this shit?" Boner=gone.

Then you have PA wich feels streched, Then the worst song on the album, Then anotare long for the sake of being long song and Then another long intro... What were they thinking?


Also FII worst songs are more enjoyable than 8VMs, You Not Me is catchy and Burning My Soul well I like it but i know it sucks.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #52 on: January 05, 2011, 01:02:55 AM »
8VM no contest.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #53 on: January 05, 2011, 01:05:39 AM »
FII is the better one IMHO. I mostly only listen to SS and TROAE from Octavarium.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #54 on: January 05, 2011, 02:25:04 AM »
they are on almost opposite poles for me
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #55 on: January 05, 2011, 02:41:41 AM »
Ummm....Both are great albums in overall scale, but when ranked against other DT albums, they go to the bottom of list for me. I'm gonna dedicate points out of 5, then decide!

Octavarium:
The root of all evil (4/5)
The answer lies within (2/5)
These walls (3/5)
I walk beside you (1/5)
Panic attack (3/5)
Never enough (4/5)
Sacrificed sons (4/5)
Octavarium (5/5)

total pts: 8*5=40  - scored pts: 26 - % = 26/40 = %65

Falling into infinity:
New millenium (3/5)
You not me (2/5)
Peruvian skies (4/5)
Hollow years (1/5)
Burning my soul (2/5)
Hell's kitchen (5/5)
Lines in the sand (5/5)
Take away my pain (3/5)
Just let me breathe (4/5)
Anna Lee (2/5)
Trial of tears (4/5)

total pts: 11*5 = 55 - scored pts: 35 - %: 36/55 = %63

So I vote Octavarium.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #56 on: January 05, 2011, 05:13:54 AM »
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #57 on: January 05, 2011, 05:48:11 AM »
I have to go with FII. Even though it has a couple of songs like "You not Me" or "Burning my soul" that are really not good, I think the rest of the album is pretty good, specially Lines in the Sand and Hell's Kitchen (by far one of my favorite songs).
Octavarium the song is amazing as well but to be honest that is the only song I really like from that album. The main problem that I have with this album is the way it sounds. I don't have anything against the lyrics, the riffs, the instrumentals and such but the sound itself. And not from a technical point of view either.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #58 on: January 05, 2011, 06:32:26 AM »
Octavarium. I'd rank it 5th or 6th while Falling into Infinity is my 2nd least favorite DT album (after SC). The weakest moments on 8V aren't as bad as some of the worst stuff on FII.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #59 on: January 05, 2011, 06:49:58 AM »
Don't really like any of the 2 that much, i kinda agree with Adami about the whole removing-thing.
So i have to say Falling Into Infinity, overall i prefer the sound the band had then, and the "phase" they were in while making it.
8VM has a few decent/good songs, but overall it's far far worse.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #60 on: January 05, 2011, 06:57:01 AM »
Octavarium, and it's not very close for me.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #61 on: January 05, 2011, 08:31:38 AM »
Falling Into Infinity, hands down. Better songs. Better lyrics. Better closing epic.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #62 on: January 05, 2011, 08:37:32 AM »
Octavarium.  It is the last album DT has put out that feels like a cohesive well thought out piece of art.  I think its one of their best flowing albums.  I never skip songs on it.  FII has some of the worst DT music mixed in with some really great DT music.  But I still hold that the song Octavarium is the greatest song ever written for me, so that carries a lot of weight. 

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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #63 on: January 05, 2011, 09:08:56 AM »
Hm.

If I'm being objective, 8v is a more well thought out and better crafted album.

That being said, I personally prefer FII.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #64 on: January 05, 2011, 09:34:27 AM »
I chose 8vm, but FII is up there.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #65 on: January 05, 2011, 09:45:13 AM »
Falling into Infinity. But Octavarium(album) is close.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #66 on: January 05, 2011, 01:36:03 PM »
8VM, no contest.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #67 on: January 05, 2011, 03:28:37 PM »
FII has the most number of DT songs that absolutely suck and are horrendous, such as:

Your Not Me
Burning My Soul
Peruvian Skies
Anna Lee

Octavarium, by comparison, has:

Panic Attack
Never Enough
I Walk Beside You

Really tough choice for me, but I have to side with Octavarium simply because what's left is phenomenal.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #68 on: January 05, 2011, 05:12:15 PM »
Quote from: dedSurroun on January 05, 2011, 03:28:37 PM
FII has the most number of DT songs that absolutely suck and are horrendous, such as:

Your Not Me
Burning My Soul
Peruvian Skies
Anna Lee

Octavarium, by comparison, has:

Panic Attack
Never Enough
I Walk Beside You

Really tough choice for me, but I have to side with Octavarium simply because what's left is phenomenal.
In my opinion, out of the 7 songs you stated, I only hate one (You Not Me), and I love most of the others.

I always refer to FII Demos as the real "FII". But yet, as much as I love FII Demos, 8VM takes it any day of the week, 8VM is probably one of my high-top DT albums.
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Re: Falling into Infinity vs. Octavarium
« Reply #69 on: January 05, 2011, 05:44:49 PM »
Pretty close for me. Both albums are pretty low on my DT Fav Album list but Octavarium I feel is a stronger album over all. However almost all my favorite songs from FII are > my favorite songs from Octavarium.  
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