Author Topic: Porcupine Tree Thread v. Zantera finally got LBS (Read 343597 times)

Zantera · « **Reply #70 on:** January 05, 2011, 03:28:31 AM »

Colin is amazing, whenever i hear songs like Waiting, Strip the Soul, Hatesong or .3, my love for him grows even more.
I can't see another bass-player play those songs with the same feel, and look so darn happy while doing it.

Gadough · « **Reply #71 on:** January 05, 2011, 03:48:34 AM »

What's with that perpetual smile, anyway? He always looks like he just got done getting blown.

Pirate · « **Reply #72 on:** January 05, 2011, 04:45:44 AM »

In all likelihood, he probably did.

Gadough · « **Reply #73 on:** January 05, 2011, 06:28:19 AM »

He's in Porcupine Tree though.

Marvellous G · « **Reply #74 on:** January 05, 2011, 06:36:48 AM »

Quote from: Gadough on January 05, 2011, 06:28:19 AM

He's in Porcupine Tree though.

That's exactly what I thought.

KevShmev · « **Reply #75 on:** January 05, 2011, 08:20:45 AM »

Quote from: Quadrochosis on January 05, 2011, 12:12:58 AM

Quote from: KevShmev on January 04, 2011, 10:42:40 PM
it seems like no one wants to say it, but if one of the guys in the band had to go, I think Colin would be the least difficult to replace. *ducks*

Wrong. Colin is who makes Porcupine Tree so groovy.

Agreed. But I still stand by what I said.

Zantera · « **Reply #76 on:** January 05, 2011, 10:11:34 AM »

Hmm... i wonder what i should get next that's either PT or SW-related (Since i'm collecting stuff).
Apart from PT-stuff, i have:

Steven Wilson - Insurgentes, NSRGNTS RMXS and the DVD (will get it in 3-4 days at least)
Blackfield - BF1, BF2 and the Live
No-Man - Schoolyard Ghosts, Together We're Stranger, Flowermouth, Wherever There is Light and Mixtaped.

I'm thinking about these:
Gavin Harrison & 05 Ric - Circles
Richard Barbieri - Stranger Inside or Things Buried
No-Man - Wild Opera (the new edition)

I'll probably get all i can eventually, just don't know where to start.

Also, before someone point it out... i would love to get Bass Communion and I.E.M-stuff, but since i'm ordering from a site that doesn't have anything by them, i can't in this case.
I don't have a card so i can pay over the web either, and my parents fall under the category "everything new is SATAN", so i gotta wait a few years before ordering over the web.

The Letter M · « **Reply #77 on:** January 05, 2011, 10:18:22 AM »

This might sound like a dumb question - but how do you say "05 Ric"... like "Oh Five Rick"? Or just "Five Rick"? Never understood the whole "non-letters in names" thing, but if you like it, it definitely makes you stand out.

Quote from: Zantera on January 05, 2011, 10:11:34 AM

Hmm... i wonder what i should get next that's either PT or SW-related (Since i'm collecting stuff).
Apart from PT-stuff, i have:

Steven Wilson - Insurgentes, NSRGNTS RMXS and the DVD (will get it in 3-4 days at least)
Blackfield - BF1, BF2 and the Live
No-Man - Schoolyard Ghosts, Together We're Stranger, Flowermouth, Wherever There is Light and Mixtaped.

I'm thinking about these:
Gavin Harrison & 05 Ric - Circles
Richard Barbieri - Stranger Inside or Things Buried
No-Man - Wild Opera (the new edition)

I'll probably get all i can eventually, just don't know where to start.
Also, before someone point it out... i would love to get Bass Communion and I.E.M-stuff, but since i'm ordering from a site that doesn't have anything by them, i can't in this case.
I don't have a card so i can pay over the web either, and my parents fall under the category "everything new is SATAN", so i gotta wait a few years before ordering over the web.

I'm a fan of No-man myself, so definitely get Wild Opera. Also get Returning Jesus as well. I wish they would reissue the first album and EP together, though.

I've yet to get Barbieri's solo albums, so I might get those in the coming months, but does anyone suggest which of the two to get first?

-Marc.

Zantera · « **Reply #78 on:** January 05, 2011, 10:26:50 AM »

Cool to see someone else digging No-Man.

I'll wait a bit for more answers, though i'm not really sure how many here have a good knowledge about these sideprojects.
Normally it's PT + BF and maybe Insurgentes, the other are less talked about.
I know Sonata listens to some of it at least, and then i'm pretty sure i've seen others mentioning the other side-stuff as well.

Pirate · « **Reply #79 on:** January 05, 2011, 01:45:14 PM »

Drop is the better album from GH and 05Ric.

Marvellous G · « **Reply #80 on:** January 05, 2011, 02:26:20 PM »

I've only heard No-Man out of the 'other' side projects, and of them only 'Returning Jesus.' I really enjoy it, but I do find that, even for essentially an ambient album, it drags on a bit.

Quadrochosis · « **Reply #81 on:** January 05, 2011, 06:02:35 PM »

Quote from: Zantera on January 05, 2011, 10:26:50 AM

Cool to see someone else digging No-Man.

HUGE No-Man fan here. I think that Schoolyard Ghosts is one of the best albums ever made with SW on it.

sonatafanica · « **Reply #82 on:** January 05, 2011, 06:18:22 PM »

Quote from: Zantera on January 05, 2011, 10:26:50 AM

I know Sonata listens to some of it at least, and then i'm pretty sure i've seen others mentioning the other side-stuff as well.

I'm a big Bass Communion and IEM fan, so I can help you out there. (I'm tired, but I think you're looking for suggestions or something)

Both are definitely worth checking out, And you can get all four IEM releases for something like $25 on Burningshed as a download (the box set is sold out). Very cool stuff.

If I missed the point of your post, my sleep schedule is all fucked up and I can't really understand things atm.

ClairvoyantCat · « **Reply #83 on:** January 05, 2011, 06:27:31 PM »

I really love Bass Communion, but I have not been able to start with IEM yet.

This seems a silly question, but does IEM have a good starter song? I understand bands like this usually don't but it's worth asking to try to start loving some of their music.

sonatafanica · « **Reply #84 on:** January 05, 2011, 06:31:51 PM »

Quote from: dtismajesty on January 05, 2011, 06:27:31 PM

I really love Bass Communion, but I have not been able to start with IEM yet.

This seems a silly question, but does IEM have a good starter song? I understand bands like this usually don't but it's worth asking to try to start loving some of their music.

err...not really

It's all instrumental experimental krautrock/ambient type stuff, there aren't really any sort of..singles or anything. Flute solos, bassy junk, sax solos, blahdy yadda blooblah

Quadrochosis · « **Reply #85 on:** January 05, 2011, 06:34:27 PM »

IEM is so amazing. They don't have a bad song either. My favorites are on the s/t though.

sonatafanica · « **Reply #86 on:** January 05, 2011, 06:35:38 PM »

Arcadia Son is still my favorite.

ClairvoyantCat · « **Reply #87 on:** January 05, 2011, 06:36:45 PM »

Quote from: sonatafanica on January 05, 2011, 06:31:51 PM

Quote from: dtismajesty on January 05, 2011, 06:27:31 PM
I really love Bass Communion, but I have not been able to start with IEM yet.

This seems a silly question, but does IEM have a good starter song? I understand bands like this usually don't but it's worth asking to try to start loving some of their music.

err...not really

It's all instrumental experimental krautrock/ambient type stuff, there aren't really any sort of..singles or anything. Flute solos, bassy junk, sax solos, blahdy yadda blooblah

Aiy, I wasn't expecting there to be.

I'll try Arcadia Son later tonight as background music while I'm banging my head against a wall over AP chemistry.

ReaperKK · « **Reply #88 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:10:15 PM »

I'm glad there is a new thread, this way I can keep up with it. I kinda got lost in the last one and I didn't want to play catch up.

Anyway, I love PT the way it is now, but Wilson's vocals lyrics are very hit or miss. Some of the lines in FOABP are just brutal to listen to.

Aside from the lyrical content I think that FoaBP is the most forgettable PT album IMO. I initially thought that "The Incident" was but after giving it many more listens (as well as FoaBP) and while "The Incident" grew on me FoaBP didn't.

Pirate · « **Reply #89 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:12:45 PM »

I can agree to an extent that would exclude Anesthetize.

ClairvoyantCat · « **Reply #90 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:20:18 PM »

I disagree with either of those albums being contenders for most forgettable. I would much sooner add an album from the early years that isn't Signify.

Ultimetalhead · « **Reply #91 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:23:37 PM »

I really don't understand the problems with FOABP's lyrics. It seems like just because it makes a pop culture reference it isn't good or artistic anymore.

orcus116 · « **Reply #92 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:30:14 PM »

Because it makes it sound goofy. I mean in a song that's actually trying to be serious there's a line that goes "But a song comes on to my iPod". I can't connect with that on any level because it's jarring.

I understand that Wilson was trying to go for the whole teen angst thing but just reading the lyrics sounds like he got all of his information from the news or some quick internet research. The lyrics to song "Fear Of A Blank Planet" sound like what you'd find in a middle school goth kid notebook on some cliche TV show.

Ultimetalhead · « **Reply #93 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:32:29 PM »

I guess I don't see how it can be jarring. How is it any less serious because a brand name is dropped? Would it be better if he had said, "but a song comes onto my MP3 Player"?

orcus116 · « **Reply #94 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:34:00 PM »

Eliminate the line altogether. He's smart enough to find another way to express the same feelings.

toro · « **Reply #95 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:34:39 PM »

Quote from: orcus116 on January 05, 2011, 07:30:14 PM

Because it makes it sound goofy. I mean in a song that's actually trying to be serious there's a line that goes "But a song comes on to my iPod". I can't connect with that on any level because it's jarring.

ninja'd

ClairvoyantCat · « **Reply #96 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:35:38 PM »

Not all lyrics have to be super poetic. The part is direct, and I have no problem with that.

Darkes7 · « **Reply #97 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:35:49 PM »

Sorry, but for me "FOABP has shit lyrics" creates the same feelings like me talking about Trains probably does for you.

sonatafanica · « **Reply #98 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:38:45 PM »

Quote from: orcus116 on January 05, 2011, 07:30:14 PM

Because it makes it sound goofy. I mean in a song that's actually trying to be serious there's a line that goes "But a song comes on to my iPod". I can't connect with that on any level because it's jarring.

It jars you...becuase you can't connect with the idea of a song...coming onto...an iPod?

Because that actually happens, you know.

Quote from: orcus116 on January 05, 2011, 07:30:14 PM

I understand that Wilson was trying to go for the whole teen angst thing but just reading the lyrics sounds like he got all of his information from the news or some quick internet research. The lyrics to song "Fear Of A Blank Planet" sound like what you'd find in a middle school goth kid notebook on some cliche TV show.

what the fuck am i reading

Darkes7 · « **Reply #99 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:41:57 PM »

Quote from: sonatafanica on January 05, 2011, 07:38:45 PM

Quote from: orcus116 on January 05, 2011, 07:30:14 PM
Because it makes it sound goofy. I mean in a song that's actually trying to be serious there's a line that goes "But a song comes on to my iPod". I can't connect with that on any level because it's jarring.

It jars you...becuase you can't connect with the idea of a song...coming onto...an iPod?

Because that actually happens, you know.

orcus116 · « **Reply #100 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:43:02 PM »

Don't own one

Perpetual Change · « **Reply #101 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:46:32 PM »

Quote from: Ultimetalhead on January 05, 2011, 07:23:37 PM

I really don't understand the problems with FOABP's lyrics. It seems like just because it makes a pop culture reference it isn't good or artistic anymore.

My disdain for them has nothing to do with reference to brands. It has everything to do with Steven Wilson being on a high-horse and sounding like a grumpy old man.

That said, they've grown on me alot.

ReaperKK · « **Reply #102 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:47:42 PM »

Quote from: Pirate on January 05, 2011, 07:12:45 PM

I can agree to an extent that would exclude Anesthetize.

I really enjoy Anesthetize, but I hate the solo, it's terrible

ReaperKK · « **Reply #103 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:49:46 PM »

Quote from: Perpetual Change on January 05, 2011, 07:46:32 PM

Quote from: Ultimetalhead on January 05, 2011, 07:23:37 PM
I really don't understand the problems with FOABP's lyrics. It seems like just because it makes a pop culture reference it isn't good or artistic anymore.

My disdain for them has nothing to do with reference to brands. It has everything to do with Steven Wilson being on a high-horse and sounding like a grumpy old man.

That said, they've grown on me alot.

I'm going to give FoaBP another spin on my ipod (lolzlozlzoz) before I go to bed tonight. I want to give it another shot and see if they aged a bit better

toro · « **Reply #104 on:** January 05, 2011, 07:50:19 PM »

Quote from: orcus116 on January 05, 2011, 07:30:14 PM

I understand that Wilson was trying to go for the whole teen angst thing but just reading the lyrics sounds like he got all of his information from the news or some quick internet research. The lyrics to song "Fear Of A Blank Planet" sound like what you'd find in a middle school goth kid notebook on some cliche TV show.

Seriously?

News: Video of online chat between fans and members of Dream Theater: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx8cLlXnHpA&feature=youtu.be (*no chickens were harmed during the filming of this chat)

Author Topic: Porcupine Tree Thread v. Zantera finally got LBS (Read 343597 times)