Author Topic: Oceansize (RIP 2011) v. VENNART 2011-Present "Forgiveness & The Grain" (2/2/24) (Read 125499 times)

Quadrochosis · « **Reply #560 on:** July 05, 2011, 08:32:50 AM »

Frames

King Postwhore · « **Reply #561 on:** July 05, 2011, 08:34:51 AM »

Quote from: Quadrochosis on July 05, 2011, 08:32:50 AM

Frames

Thanks! I'm heading out now and it will be the first spin.

Zantera · « **Reply #562 on:** July 05, 2011, 08:35:41 AM »

Effloresce or Everyone Into Position.
Frames requires more focus then those, and I feel like it's a better album if you're really paying attention to it more.
Effloresce and Everyone Into Position are both more accessible, and you'll most likely enjoy them even if you are doing something which decreases your focus towards the music.

Just my 5 cents. =)

ClairvoyantCat · « **Reply #563 on:** July 05, 2011, 08:35:50 AM »

Effloresce is my favorite, so that would be my recommendation.

Quadrochosis · « **Reply #564 on:** July 05, 2011, 08:36:51 AM »

I agree that Effloresce is the better album but I think Frames would be better in a yardwork situation.

Zantera · « **Reply #565 on:** July 05, 2011, 08:39:40 AM »

I don't think you can go wrong with any album to be honest.
Sure I heard Frames first many years ago and didn't like it, but when I got into the band for real I started with Self Preserved, and it worked like a charm.
And Self Preserved is still the album many fans consider to be the 'last' starting-point.
I think both of their EP's would work really good as well.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #566 on:** July 05, 2011, 08:40:16 AM »

I do get to concentrate the best when I'm working in the yard (Unless of course the music in playing on my stereo with no distraction) so there is focus on the music.

Edit: I've also got noise canceling headphones I use when working in the yard. So I'll go with Quads advice and try Effloresce when I'm outside again tomorrow. Thanks everyone!!

Pirate · « **Reply #567 on:** July 05, 2011, 09:45:46 AM »

I was playing along to Trail of Fire on drums a week ago and the epic part came up and so did I.

zxlkho · « **Reply #568 on:** July 05, 2011, 09:52:41 AM »

Frames is the best.

Zantera · « **Reply #569 on:** July 05, 2011, 10:26:08 AM »

If only they would re-unite and make more awesome music.

zxlkho · « **Reply #570 on:** July 05, 2011, 10:27:02 AM »

Fuck Biffy Clyro.

Actually, they're okay. I like them.

Gadough · « **Reply #571 on:** July 05, 2011, 10:29:43 AM »

Quote from: Zantera on July 05, 2011, 10:26:08 AM

If only they would re-unite and make more awesome music.

Did we ever get an official explanation of why they broke up?

Zantera · « **Reply #572 on:** July 05, 2011, 10:35:55 AM »

Nah we haven't.
My guess is that they wanted to go in different directions, seeing as Self Preserved is probably their most diverse album in that sense.
Some really heavy songs, some very mellow.
If that's the case though, it's a pretty lame reason.
They have always been a band of many genres, and one of their best qualities was that their music had a lot of variety, they could've easily continued making albums satisfying both the need for heavy but also more mellow music.

Pirate · « **Reply #573 on:** July 05, 2011, 10:39:31 AM »

It would've been a direction I could get behind. If that was the problem, had they stayed together we might've seen a great album to follow Self-Preserved.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #574 on:** July 05, 2011, 11:18:30 AM »

So I loved Frames. Atmospheric, well crafted, melodic. A great contrast to the hot sunny day it is. It took my mind off of the heat.

On first listen my favorite song was Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions.

zxlkho · « **Reply #575 on:** July 05, 2011, 11:19:51 AM »

I've heard that song also has an alternate title, "Meshuggah"

Zantera · « **Reply #576 on:** July 05, 2011, 11:23:14 AM »

Quote from: kingshmegland on July 05, 2011, 11:18:30 AM

So I loved Frames. Atmospheric, well crafted, melodic. A great contrast to the hot sunny day it is. It took my mind off of the heat.

On first listen my favorite song was Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions.

I love that song!
Most people around here seem to diss it, but ignore that, because it's a truly fantastic song, that adds a lot of atmosphere to the album.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #577 on:** July 05, 2011, 11:31:06 AM »

Sometimes it's the one different song that catches you off guard. I stopped working and grabbed my water and took a break while listening to it.

Quadrochosis · « **Reply #578 on:** July 05, 2011, 11:33:13 AM »

Quote from: kingshmegland on July 05, 2011, 11:31:06 AM

Sometimes it's the one different song that catches you off guard. I stopped working and grabbed my water and took a break while listening to it.

Yea the first time I heard that song I was caught off guard as well. Such a neat thing to do on an album like that! AFAIK it's the only song of theirs that is even remotely like that.

Zantera · « **Reply #579 on:** July 05, 2011, 11:46:56 AM »

Personally I just feel like Steven Wilson got a lot of inspiration for The Incident from that, the same "type" of heaviness is featured on that album, and he has praised Oceansize in interviews and such.
But yeah, just a guess.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #580 on:** July 05, 2011, 11:54:20 AM »

Quote from: Zantera on July 05, 2011, 11:46:56 AM

Personally I just feel like Steven Wilson got a lot of inspiration for The Incident from that, the same "type" of heaviness is featured on that album, and he has praised Oceansize in interviews and such.
But yeah, just a guess.

I'm not sure about that. In Absentia in 2002 is when PT went to a heavier sound while still retaining the atmosphere. I often wondered id Opeth influenced him.

Zantera · « **Reply #581 on:** July 05, 2011, 12:00:50 PM »

Well, the Opeth-influence is quite clear.
However, I was talking about the dynamic-shift if you look at Circle of Manias and I Drive the Hearse, and compare it to Sleeping Dogs and Dead Lions and The Frame.
The whole djent-type of riff and a heavier song, followed by a very soft song.
Never the less, I love it.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #582 on:** July 05, 2011, 12:08:48 PM »

I'm heading back out and I've give Effloresce a listen after the new Yes.

Quadrochosis · « **Reply #583 on:** July 05, 2011, 12:22:32 PM »

Effloresce is a lot more raw and experimental. Less polished, less confident, but it's their masterpiece. Few bands create debut albums are peculiar and interesting as Effloresce.

zxlkho · « **Reply #584 on:** July 05, 2011, 12:54:09 PM »

I find Effloresce to be a bit post-rockish

jag66 · « **Reply #585 on:** July 05, 2011, 01:39:39 PM »

Effloresce is pretty incredible for a debut. Prefer the following 2 albums though

Zantera · « **Reply #586 on:** July 05, 2011, 01:50:02 PM »

Even though Frames is my favorite, Effloresce might be the best debut-album I've come across.
That really says a lot about it's quality.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #587 on:** July 05, 2011, 01:57:11 PM »

Right on for it being a bit raw. Loved it and it is a great first album. It had a bit more of a bit and helped me as I lugged the bark much all over the yard. I've give the other 2 cd's a spin tomorrow.

Zantera · « **Reply #588 on:** July 05, 2011, 01:58:29 PM »

Awesome!

Hopefully you'll enjoy them too!

Quadrochosis · « **Reply #589 on:** July 05, 2011, 08:13:05 PM »

king, which album did you like better (first impression of course) ?

King Postwhore · « **Reply #590 on:** July 05, 2011, 08:21:45 PM »

Quote from: Quadrochosis on July 05, 2011, 08:13:05 PM

king, which album did you like better (first impression of course) ?

Frames but it was close. Though it was only one listen each. I was going to listen to the other 2 tomorrow but my buddy called me in to work with his boss so no music till I get home.

Zantera · « **Reply #591 on:** July 06, 2011, 03:01:18 AM »

The thing that still amazes me about Oceansize is how high quality everything is.
Even their B-sides spread across singles and such, they could've easily ended up on an album.

Plasmastrike · « **Reply #592 on:** August 13, 2011, 09:00:03 PM »

So, I'm listening to Frames for the first time. 1:15 into the first track. Been meaning to give this band a shot for such a long time..

Pirate · « **Reply #593 on:** August 13, 2011, 09:38:26 PM »

My parents ordered the Frames CD/DVD for my birthday... can't wait till it arrives.

Zantera · « **Reply #594 on:** August 14, 2011, 02:45:58 AM »

Quote from: Plasmastrike on August 13, 2011, 09:00:03 PM

So, I'm listening to Frames for the first time. 1:15 into the first track. Been meaning to give this band a shot for such a long time..

Hope you liked it!

News: Fall Into the Light, official video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFxH4kky6z4

Author Topic: Oceansize (RIP 2011) v. VENNART 2011-Present "Forgiveness & The Grain" (2/2/24) (Read 125499 times)