Author Topic: All Star Trek Discussion Thread ("Into Darkness" trailer released) (Read 430290 times)

Cool Chris · « **Reply #210 on:** July 07, 2011, 12:41:28 PM »

No, it was a lame way to take the Trek universe fans know and love and bastardize it to fit their own silly vision

King Postwhore · « **Reply #211 on:** July 07, 2011, 12:55:01 PM »

Quote from: Cool Chris on July 07, 2011, 12:41:28 PM

No, it was a lame way to take the Trek universe fans know and love and bastardize it to fit their own silly vision

It didn't bother me like some. In the immortal words of William Shatner, "Get a life!"

MetalJunkie · « **Reply #212 on:** July 07, 2011, 01:28:32 PM »

Quote from: El Barto on July 07, 2011, 11:05:24 AM

The original Scotty was an interesting character as Doohan played him. Obviously, he was mainly interested in tinkering and building/repairing stuff, but if pressed into service, he was an awesome command officer. Any time he was in the big chair, he was cold as ice, yet still deliberate and thoughtful. The new Scotty seemed to be more about comic relief, and that's unfortunate.

Keep in mind there's about ten years between STXI and TOS. That's a lot of time for a character to evolve.

MetalJunkie · « **Reply #213 on:** July 07, 2011, 09:57:12 PM »

Quote from: rumborak on July 07, 2011, 10:19:44 AM

The only thing that actually bugged me as a plot hole was the fact that, even if you collapse something into a black hole, the mass is still the same. So, the gravitational pull stays the same.

I was thinking about this at work today. I don't think they made the planet into a black hole; they made a black hole at the center of the planet. There are endless possibilities since we don't know anything about the properties of the red matter.

chknptpie · « **Reply #214 on:** July 08, 2011, 08:26:46 AM »

This thread needs

more lens flares

Super Dude · « **Reply #215 on:** July 08, 2011, 08:30:44 AM »

Super Dude · « **Reply #216 on:** July 08, 2011, 08:31:22 AM »

Quote from: MetalJunkie on July 07, 2011, 09:57:12 PM

Quote from: rumborak on July 07, 2011, 10:19:44 AM
The only thing that actually bugged me as a plot hole was the fact that, even if you collapse something into a black hole, the mass is still the same. So, the gravitational pull stays the same.
I was thinking about this at work today. I don't think they made the planet into a black hole; they made a black hole at the center of the planet. There are endless possibilities since we don't know anything about the properties of the red matter.

And yeah, my impression has always been that they made a black hole in the center of the planet.

ScioPath · « **Reply #217 on:** July 08, 2011, 08:45:35 AM »

I bought a Spock Cookie Jar yesterday.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #218 on:** July 08, 2011, 08:50:01 AM »

That is highly illogical ScioPath.

El Barto · « **Reply #219 on:** July 08, 2011, 09:00:41 AM »

Now a cool one would have been Spock with the headband thingie from Spock's Brain, so you'd remove his skullcap to get at the cookies.

AndyDT · « **Reply #220 on:** July 10, 2011, 07:49:08 AM »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Of_Gods_and_Men

Has anybody ever watched this?

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #221 on:** July 10, 2011, 09:53:41 AM »

Quote from: AndyDT on July 10, 2011, 07:49:08 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Of_Gods_and_Men

Has anybody ever watched this?

No, but I would love to see it. What a great-sounding thing.

El Barto · « **Reply #222 on:** July 10, 2011, 10:04:13 AM »

Quote from: AndyDT on July 10, 2011, 07:49:08 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Of_Gods_and_Men

Has anybody ever watched this?

Nope. I have watched 2 or 3 of the New Voyages and didn't care for them. Looking at the cast of this, I assume it's pretty similar. The problem with NV is that they were constantly trying to force in as many references to the original series as possible^*, and many of them were cheesy. The fact that Charlie Evans is included in this doesn't strike me as encouraging.

^*The continuation of Captain Decker's story after the Planet Killer was pretty amusing, though.

MetalJunkie · « **Reply #223 on:** July 11, 2011, 01:40:27 AM »

Quote from: El Barto on July 10, 2011, 10:04:13 AM

The continuation of Captain Decker's story after the Planet Killer was pretty amusing, though.

Sounds interesting. Do tell?

El Barto · « **Reply #224 on:** July 11, 2011, 09:02:38 AM »

Quote from: MetalJunkie on July 11, 2011, 01:40:27 AM

Quote from: El Barto on July 10, 2011, 10:04:13 AM
The continuation of Captain Decker's story after the Planet Killer was pretty amusing, though.
Sounds interesting. Do tell?

Via some nonsensical event he woke up in the 20th century after entering the planet killer. He goes to Earth, gets married and settles down. The Enterprise uses the guardian of forever to go back in time and finds a signal from his shuttlecraft. Kirk, Spock and McCoy show up at a pre-fab house in suburbia, meet his wife and watch a video he'd left for them (he had died 6 months earlier). The amusing bit is that when they're getting ready to leave, she tells them there is one other thing they might be interested in. She takes them out to the garage and opens the door to reveal Decker's shuttlecraft parked next to piles of clutter.

Honestly, the show's really pretty bad. I like that they're trying to do it, and on some levels they did a fine job. They're using a perfect recreation of the original bridge set (Paramount actually used their set for the TNG episode where Scotty returns). They're creating top of the line CGI for it. The actors they've got are convincing as K, S and McC (though not very good at actually acting). The two main problems are that it still looks like it was shot by the drama department at a community college somewhere in Nebraska, and they rely too heavily on trying to incorporate cameos from TOS characters. Every episode seems to involve some mishap that allows for an 80 year old Sulu to appear, except that it's usually much lower tier characters. Mr. Leslie is a captain. Lt. Kyle is an admiral. Etc.

skydivingninja · « **Reply #225 on:** July 11, 2011, 09:38:07 AM »

So all the shows except DS9 are on Netflix right now. So I've been watching some great TNG episodes, starting with Q Who and Deja Q, inspired by recent visits by the Omnipotent being himself. What a great show. I'm going to watch Qpid next just for the line "Captain! I must protest! I am NOT a Merry Man!"

Adami · « **Reply #226 on:** July 11, 2011, 03:52:31 PM »

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on July 10, 2011, 09:53:41 AM

Quote from: AndyDT on July 10, 2011, 07:49:08 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Trek:_Of_Gods_and_Men

Has anybody ever watched this?
No, but I would love to see it. What a great-sounding thing.

I just watched about 12 or so minutes of it.

Good god it was horrible. Just awful. The story may have been good, but jesus christ. The acting, the directing, the writing...........everything was abysmal.

Super Dude · « **Reply #227 on:** August 04, 2011, 08:11:41 AM »

Mr. Worf, do you know Gilbert and Sullivan?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61AAwNDwU4U

ACID_FOX · « **Reply #228 on:** August 04, 2011, 08:23:43 AM »

The new Star Trek film was great, haters.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #229 on:** August 04, 2011, 10:37:30 AM »

Quote from: ACID_FOX on August 04, 2011, 08:23:43 AM

The new Star Trek film was great, haters.

I agree 100%. It was Fantastic.

Kicked Nemesis so hard in the balls. I was shocked when I found out the forger in Inception also played Shinzon. ( Tom Hardy )

Did. Not. Recgonise, In. The. Slightest.

ReaPsTA · « **Reply #230 on:** August 04, 2011, 11:02:30 AM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on August 04, 2011, 10:37:30 AM

Quote from: ACID_FOX on August 04, 2011, 08:23:43 AM
The new Star Trek film was great, haters.

I agree 100%. It was Fantastic.

Kicked Nemesis so hard in the balls. I was shocked when I found out the forger in Inception also played Shinzon. ( Tom Hardy )

Did. Not. Recgonise, In. The. Slightest.

He definitely became a better actor too.

Super Dude · « **Reply #231 on:** August 04, 2011, 11:38:05 AM »

Oh, by miles and miles. Although it's been a while since I've seen Nemesis (release, probably) so I can't remember if the cast was shit (the regulars aside) or if it was just the script.

I do love one part though: "Romulan ale should be illegal..."

"It is illegal, Worf."

ACID_FOX · « **Reply #232 on:** August 04, 2011, 12:21:02 PM »

I did not know that, wow.

Adami · « **Reply #233 on:** August 04, 2011, 12:22:41 PM »

Quote from: Super Dude on August 04, 2011, 11:38:05 AM

Oh, by miles and miles. Although it's been a while since I've seen Nemesis (release, probably) so I can't remember if the cast was shit (the regulars aside) or if it was just the script.

I do love one part though: "Romulan ale should be illegal..."

"It is illegal, Worf."

Say what you will about Nemesis, but Data dying was intensely sad. Brent Spiner and the rest of the cast handled it perfectly.

Cool Chris · « **Reply #234 on:** August 04, 2011, 12:22:58 PM »

Quote from: Super Dude on August 04, 2011, 11:38:05 AM

I do love one part though: "Romulan ale should be illegal..."

"It is illegal, Worf."

FYI, it is also not recommended for diplomatic functions.

ReaPsTA · « **Reply #235 on:** August 04, 2011, 12:51:37 PM »

Oh god, I just found out I share a birthday with a famous star ship captain... Janeway.

On one hand, it's poetic because I grew up watching Voyager. On the other hand, she was everything you don't want in an officer.

Dream Team · « **Reply #236 on:** August 04, 2011, 01:34:04 PM »

So, Shatner's pretty busy . . . he's got a documentary out where he interviews all of the Star Trek captains and also a new novel (which I will definitely read) where a retired Kirk tries to solve the the mystery of Spock's murder.

ReaperKK · « **Reply #237 on:** August 04, 2011, 02:16:19 PM »

Quote from: Dream Team on August 04, 2011, 01:34:04 PM

So, Shatner's pretty busy . . . he's got a documentary out where he interviews all of the Star Trek captains and also a new novel (which I will definitely read) where a retired Kirk tries to solve the the mystery of Spock's murder.

I'd like to seem him interview all the different captains, I'd also probably read the book.

Dream Team · « **Reply #238 on:** August 04, 2011, 02:41:22 PM »

Ranking my favorite regular characters, regardless of writing/direction/etc:

Spock
Kirk
Picard
Data
McCoy
Worf
Ro
Riker
Scotty
Holograph Doctor
O'Brien

I'm a weird Trekkie, I know everything there possibly is to know about TOS and TNG (including novels, behind-the-scenes stuff, geeky stuff, etc), but almost nothing about the rest . . . I did watch many episodes of DS9 when it first aired.

Super Dude · « **Reply #239 on:** August 04, 2011, 02:59:29 PM »

Quote from: Adami on August 04, 2011, 12:22:41 PM

Quote from: Super Dude on August 04, 2011, 11:38:05 AM
Oh, by miles and miles. Although it's been a while since I've seen Nemesis (release, probably) so I can't remember if the cast was shit (the regulars aside) or if it was just the script.

I do love one part though: "Romulan ale should be illegal..."

"It is illegal, Worf."

Say what you will about Nemesis, but Data dying was intensely sad. Brent Spiner and the rest of the cast handled it perfectly.

And that.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #240 on:** August 05, 2011, 04:36:31 PM »

Quote from: Adami on August 04, 2011, 12:22:41 PM

Quote from: Super Dude on August 04, 2011, 11:38:05 AM
Oh, by miles and miles. Although it's been a while since I've seen Nemesis (release, probably) so I can't remember if the cast was shit (the regulars aside) or if it was just the script.

I do love one part though: "Romulan ale should be illegal..."

"It is illegal, Worf."

Say what you will about Nemesis, but Data dying was intensely sad. Brent Spiner and the rest of the cast handled it perfectly.

Say what you want about Nemesis - the amount of nods to The Wrath of Khan was ridiculous.

1.Genetically Engineered Villain
2.Massive weapon ( Genesis device, Shinzons weapon )
3.References to Romulan Ale being illegal in both movies
4.Final battle in a Nebula
5.Death of crew member
6.Data downloading his memory into B4. Spock transferring his mind to McCoy.

Any others i've forgotten ?

Super Dude · « **Reply #241 on:** August 05, 2011, 04:37:18 PM »

And pulled off not nearly as well.

Kotowboy · « **Reply #242 on:** August 05, 2011, 04:48:16 PM »

Well no but it's so blatant they were trying to remake TWOK.

Star Trek 2009 did it so much better. That film gives TWOK a serious run for it's money in the best Trek movie ( in my book ).

I am so glad they are taking their time on the sequel and making sure that everything is ready before they start, not rushing out

a sequel for the sake of it. As long as it's as good as ST2009 I can wait as long as it takes. We waited 7 years for the last one and it was

amazing.

Adami · « **Reply #243 on:** August 05, 2011, 05:51:37 PM »

Quote from: Kotowboy on August 05, 2011, 04:48:16 PM

Well no but it's so blatant they were trying to remake TWOK.

Star Trek 2009 did it so much better. That film gives TWOK a serious run for it's money in the best Trek movie ( in my book ).

I am so glad they are taking their time on the sequel and making sure that everything is ready before they start, not rushing out

a sequel for the sake of it. As long as it's as good as ST2009 I can wait as long as it takes. We waited 7 years for the last one and it was

amazing.

The new movie was really fun and pretty good. But it had A LOT of problems. Way too many to even think about qualifying it for best.

ReaPsTA · « **Reply #244 on:** August 05, 2011, 05:52:29 PM »

I still wish I understood why so many people like the new Star Trek. I thought it was painfully bad.

News: Track-by-track video for Untethered Angel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Co1_h0GtAw

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