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Re: The Mike Portnoy Appreciation/Discussion Thread (merged)
« Reply #2380 on: August 31, 2020, 11:39:09 AM »
Love that song; is that the one that James wouldn't sing? (Not a dig at James; I just always wondered what his objection to that was; I think he would have killed it). 

Hmmm.  It's good, but...  the vocals don't work for me; Ozzy is a tough gig to play.  This guy is clearly a very good singer; Ozzy is not a great singer, absolutely, but he's a great singer in that he captures what he's going for.  I think those first two solo albums really are brilliant, as much for Ozzy as for Randy.  There's a fragility, a vulnerability about his vocals that he never really got again, and this is almost TOO powerful and confident.   All my opinion of course.  Demmel nails the heavy parts later, but he sounds like he's struggling on the acoustic parts. 

That ending was killer, though; that was worth the price of admission if you ask me.   :)


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« Reply #2381 on: August 31, 2020, 02:54:00 PM »
Love that song; is that the one that James wouldn't sing? (Not a dig at James; I just always wondered what his objection to that was; I think he would have killed it). 

Hmmm.  It's good, but...  the vocals don't work for me; Ozzy is a tough gig to play.  This guy is clearly a very good singer; Ozzy is not a great singer, absolutely, but he's a great singer in that he captures what he's going for.  I think those first two solo albums really are brilliant, as much for Ozzy as for Randy.  There's a fragility, a vulnerability about his vocals that he never really got again, and this is almost TOO powerful and confident.   All my opinion of course.  Demmel nails the heavy parts later, but he sounds like he's struggling on the acoustic parts. 

That ending was killer, though; that was worth the price of admission if you ask me.   :)

I actually agree with everything you say. By the end of the song I came around to the vocals though. Still curious as hell as to why James wouldn't sing it.

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« Reply #2382 on: August 31, 2020, 04:33:22 PM »
Haven't seen this mentioned elsewhere.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ILQlgolBIs

I think this is a really good cover of one of my favorite Ozzy songs.

Our boy Porty on drums and Rudy Sarzo on bass.  Don't know any of the other players, but the singer did a good job, and the guitar player resisted the urge to overplay.  Cool to involve Sarzo who, while not having played on the Blizzard album, did play the song live with Ozzy and Randy.

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Love that song; is that the one that James wouldn't sing? (Not a dig at James; I just always wondered what his objection to that was; I think he would have killed it).

James...Labrie?  Doesn't sound familiar.  Context?


Hmmm.  It's good, but...  the vocals don't work for me; Ozzy is a tough gig to play.  This guy is clearly a very good singer; Ozzy is not a great singer, absolutely, but he's a great singer in that he captures what he's going for.  I think those first two solo albums really are brilliant, as much for Ozzy as for Randy.  There's a fragility, a vulnerability about his vocals that he never really got again, and this is almost TOO powerful and confident.   All my opinion of course.  Demmel nails the heavy parts later, but he sounds like he's struggling on the acoustic parts

I've only listened a couple times.  There's something very, very unique about Ozzy's voice.  It was never "good" in the sense that you'd never teach someone to sing like he did in the 70s and first half of the 80s, but it worked so well.  The guy who sang on this cover was obviously more trained and what not, but you can't match Ozzy's uniqueness, so it's best not to try.
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« Reply #2383 on: August 31, 2020, 09:24:35 PM »

James...Labrie?  Doesn't sound familiar.  Context?



On the Official Bootlegs, the Uncovered album which was a compilation of random covers they did had Diary of a Madman and in the liner notes Portnoy said he wanted to do Revelation but James was adamant about NOT doing that one. I don't remember if it was in the liner notes or later in an interview he said that he was surprised James was so adamant because he was usually game for whatever. He never did say why.


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« Reply #2384 on: September 01, 2020, 10:41:10 AM »

James...Labrie?  Doesn't sound familiar.  Context?



On the Official Bootlegs, the Uncovered album which was a compilation of random covers they did had Diary of a Madman and in the liner notes Portnoy said he wanted to do Revelation but James was adamant about NOT doing that one. I don't remember if it was in the liner notes or later in an interview he said that he was surprised James was so adamant because he was usually game for whatever. He never did say why.

Gotcha.  I forgot that album existed.  I'd have bought it, but I don't think it has ever been in stock since I became aware that YJR existed, so I've never seen the liner notes.
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« Reply #2385 on: September 02, 2020, 09:37:40 AM »
Love that song; is that the one that James wouldn't sing? (Not a dig at James; I just always wondered what his objection to that was; I think he would have killed it). 

Hmmm.  It's good, but...  the vocals don't work for me; Ozzy is a tough gig to play.  This guy is clearly a very good singer; Ozzy is not a great singer, absolutely, but he's a great singer in that he captures what he's going for.  I think those first two solo albums really are brilliant, as much for Ozzy as for Randy.  There's a fragility, a vulnerability about his vocals that he never really got again, and this is almost TOO powerful and confident.   All my opinion of course.  Demmel nails the heavy parts later, but he sounds like he's struggling on the acoustic parts. 

That ending was killer, though; that was worth the price of admission if you ask me.   :)
That happens a lot with Ozzy. Far more talented singers usually fail to pull off what he did. I noticed that recently with SoA doing Diary, and thinking JSC was the weak link. And it's easy to notice with every live album Sabbath did after Ozzy. The only one that could really pull off Ozzy's vocals was the unsung Ray Gillen.
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« Reply #2386 on: September 02, 2020, 09:40:06 AM »
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« Reply #2387 on: September 03, 2020, 11:28:08 AM »
Love that song; is that the one that James wouldn't sing? (Not a dig at James; I just always wondered what his objection to that was; I think he would have killed it). 

Hmmm.  It's good, but...  the vocals don't work for me; Ozzy is a tough gig to play.  This guy is clearly a very good singer; Ozzy is not a great singer, absolutely, but he's a great singer in that he captures what he's going for.  I think those first two solo albums really are brilliant, as much for Ozzy as for Randy.  There's a fragility, a vulnerability about his vocals that he never really got again, and this is almost TOO powerful and confident.   All my opinion of course.  Demmel nails the heavy parts later, but he sounds like he's struggling on the acoustic parts. 

That ending was killer, though; that was worth the price of admission if you ask me.   :)
That happens a lot with Ozzy. Far more talented singers usually fail to pull off what he did. I noticed that recently with SoA doing Diary, and thinking JSC was the weak link. And it's easy to notice with every live album Sabbath did after Ozzy. The only one that could really pull off Ozzy's vocals was the unsung Ray Gillen.

Ozzy might not be a great singer, but he’s an awesome Ozzy, and I think that’s the key.

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« Reply #2388 on: September 04, 2020, 07:58:39 AM »
Love that song; is that the one that James wouldn't sing? (Not a dig at James; I just always wondered what his objection to that was; I think he would have killed it). 

Hmmm.  It's good, but...  the vocals don't work for me; Ozzy is a tough gig to play.  This guy is clearly a very good singer; Ozzy is not a great singer, absolutely, but he's a great singer in that he captures what he's going for.  I think those first two solo albums really are brilliant, as much for Ozzy as for Randy.  There's a fragility, a vulnerability about his vocals that he never really got again, and this is almost TOO powerful and confident.   All my opinion of course.  Demmel nails the heavy parts later, but he sounds like he's struggling on the acoustic parts. 

That ending was killer, though; that was worth the price of admission if you ask me.   :)
That happens a lot with Ozzy. Far more talented singers usually fail to pull off what he did. I noticed that recently with SoA doing Diary, and thinking JSC was the weak link. And it's easy to notice with every live album Sabbath did after Ozzy. The only one that could really pull off Ozzy's vocals was the unsung Ray Gillen.

Ozzy might not be a great singer, but he’s an awesome Ozzy, and I think that’s the key.

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« Reply #2389 on: September 05, 2020, 02:10:04 PM »
Those videos are fantastic.  :tup

They sure are. I hope he goes through everything. Not just the new vinyl.  Might take years, but we have time now.

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« Reply #2390 on: September 08, 2020, 10:41:48 PM »
Didn't see this mentioned anywhere here, but September 8 meant MP has officially been out of DT for 10 years already.
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« Reply #2391 on: September 09, 2020, 03:47:14 AM »
I was actually pleasantly surprised that the anniversary didn't turn into a discussion.  :tup

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« Reply #2392 on: September 09, 2020, 08:25:02 AM »
I was actually pleasantly surprised that the anniversary didn't turn into a discussion.  :tup

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« Reply #2393 on: September 09, 2020, 08:39:00 AM »
I can’t believe it’s been ten years since Mike left DT! When do you guys think they will ask him to rejoin the band?!?! Can we has nuggetz?

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« Reply #2394 on: September 09, 2020, 09:03:54 AM »
I can’t believe it’s been ten years since Mike left DT! When do you guys think they will ask him to rejoin the band?!?! Can we has nuggetz?

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« Reply #2395 on: September 09, 2020, 09:08:36 AM »
The Prog Report had a whole podcast discussion about it, though I haven't seen it yet.

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« Reply #2396 on: September 09, 2020, 09:40:20 AM »
Kinda crazy that 10 years passed so quickly. Wow.

That was a kick in the gut day for many of us. It's all good now though.

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« Reply #2397 on: September 09, 2020, 10:00:27 AM »
Hard to believe he was part of 37 albums, live and in studio, in 10 years...and for most of them he's a hands on kind of guy, and not "just" plays on them. He has a say in the music direction, artwork, setlists, touring plans etc.

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« Reply #2398 on: September 10, 2020, 01:47:10 AM »
Kinda crazy that 10 years passed so quickly. Wow.

That was a kick in the gut day for many of us. It's all good now though.

How to perfectly sum up very briefly something that has been discussed to death.

I was very sad about it, I really wished it wouldn't have to happen. But DT moved on, MP moved on and so eventually did I.

But yeah - IT'S ALREADY BEEN 10 YEARS? Someone stop the wheel of time!!!
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« Reply #2399 on: September 10, 2020, 02:19:32 AM »
I remember that day very well. I'd only been a DT fan for 2-3 years, so I was into full DT fanboy mode by then. What a gut punch to read his statement. It all worked out fine for both parties in the end.
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« Reply #2400 on: September 10, 2020, 03:59:25 AM »
My closest friend (whom I got into DT about 3 years prior) took it pretty hard. Me on the other hand, I was relieved about MP leaving and excited (and a bit apprehensive too) about what was to happen next. I was also relieved as can be about MM joining. So was my friend though. Couldn't have worked out better in retrospect.
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« Reply #2401 on: September 10, 2020, 07:30:52 AM »
I remember that day. I was at band practice when I looked on here and saw the thread.

Now I'm here still listening to Dream Theater, whole my drummer friend isn't as much because he liked the way Portnoy Drums.

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« Reply #2402 on: September 10, 2020, 12:27:47 PM »
I can’t believe it’s been ten years since Mike left DT! When do you guys think they will ask him to rejoin the band?!?! Can we has nuggetz?
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« Reply #2403 on: September 10, 2020, 03:23:01 PM »
I’m pretty sure that was the day I met Jackie (bout to crash) in real life. I told her about it.

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« Reply #2404 on: September 11, 2020, 12:15:37 AM »
I’m pretty sure that was the day I met Jackie (bout to crash) in real life. I told her about it.

So happy 10 years to Jackie and me being friends.

Is she still around/active on DTF? I haven't seen her in a while.
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« Reply #2405 on: September 11, 2020, 12:39:20 AM »
Kinda crazy that 10 years passed so quickly. Wow.

That was a kick in the gut day for many of us. It's all good now though.

It only feels like a few years ago when Portnoy left. Damn mang. Herrick was 29 visiting his family in Oklahoma.
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« Reply #2406 on: September 11, 2020, 06:06:47 AM »
I had just moved to Erie for work. 

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« Reply #2407 on: September 11, 2020, 06:31:38 AM »
I remember it pretty well. I remember moving into my first apartment after graduating college and opening a new laptop. Naturally the first place I go to is DTF to see the announcement.

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« Reply #2408 on: September 11, 2020, 07:21:56 AM »
I’m pretty sure that was the day I met Jackie (bout to crash) in real life. I told her about it.

So happy 10 years to Jackie and me being friends.

Is she still around/active on DTF? I haven't seen her in a while.

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« Reply #2409 on: September 11, 2020, 07:22:47 AM »
Please do :)
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« Reply #2410 on: September 12, 2020, 05:47:57 PM »
I was pretty shocked, but relieved when the other 4 did a reasonably solid job at reassuring the fans that it wouldn't mean the end of the band. It was the first time I'd experienced in real time a major band line-up change/split/departure of an artist I counted as one of my favorites.
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« Reply #2411 on: September 13, 2020, 06:15:14 AM »
I remember that day very well. I'd only been a DT fan for 2-3 years, so I was into full DT fanboy mode by then. What a gut punch to read his statement. It all worked out fine for both parties in the end.
Same. I actually stopped listening to Dream Theater until the beginning of 2012 (only went back in to check out ADTOE, which I didn't like, which cast me further into depression). Then I went back into hardcore fangirl mode and found you guys.

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« Reply #2412 on: September 13, 2020, 11:44:15 AM »
I remember that day very well. I'd only been a DT fan for 2-3 years, so I was into full DT fanboy mode by then. What a gut punch to read his statement. It all worked out fine for both parties in the end.
Same. I actually stopped listening to Dream Theater until the beginning of 2012 (only went back in to check out ADTOE, which I didn't like, which cast me further into depression). Then I went back into hardcore fangirl mode and found you guys.

Just curious, but what do you think about ADTOE now?
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« Reply #2413 on: September 14, 2020, 09:23:40 AM »
I was pretty shocked, but relieved when the other 4 did a reasonably solid job at reassuring the fans that it wouldn't mean the end of the band. It was the first time I'd experienced in real time a major band line-up change/split/departure of an artist I counted as one of my favorites.

Yea, it's weird how I can remember exactly where I was (a McDonalds in Midtown Manhatten eating before I started a night shift at a contract job I was working) and browsing DTF on my phone and seeing the news.  Immediately calling my friend and just the feeling of shock and sadness.  In the end, I'd say things worked out but in that moment I was really upset and definitely had some thoughts of it being the end of DT.  I can't recall that feeling of any other band because most of those big break ups had happened before I followed said bands or bands that had members break and whatnot were bands that I didn't love the same as I love DT.

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« Reply #2414 on: September 14, 2020, 09:36:05 AM »
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