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Junk foods, how do they work?
« on: December 09, 2010, 09:41:42 PM »
https://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/index.html

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Twinkies. Nutty bars. Powdered donuts.

For 10 weeks, Mark Haub, a professor of human nutrition at Kansas State University, ate one of these sugary cakelets every three hours, instead of meals. To add variety in his steady stream of Hostess and Little Debbie snacks, Haub munched on Doritos chips, sugary cereals and Oreos, too.

His premise: That in weight loss, pure calorie counting is what matters most -- not the nutritional value of the food.

The premise held up: On his "convenience store diet," he shed 27 pounds in two months.

For a class project, Haub limited himself to less than 1,800 calories a day. A man of Haub's pre-dieting size usually consumes about 2,600 calories daily. So he followed a basic principle of weight loss: He consumed significantly fewer calories than he burned.

His body mass index went from 28.8, considered overweight, to 24.9, which is normal. He now weighs 174 pounds.

But you might expect other indicators of health would have suffered. Not so.

Haub's "bad" cholesterol, or LDL, dropped 20 percent and his "good" cholesterol, or HDL, increased by 20 percent. He reduced the level of triglycerides, which are a form of fat, by 39 percent.

"That's where the head scratching comes," Haub said. "What does that mean? Does that mean I'm healthier? Or does it mean how we define health from a biology standpoint, that we're missing something?"

Despite his temporary success, Haub does not recommend replicating his snack-centric diet.

"I'm not geared to say this is a good thing to do," he said. "I'm stuck in the middle. I guess that's the frustrating part. I can't give a concrete answer. There's not enough information to do that."

Two-thirds of his total intake came from junk food. He also took a multivitamin pill and drank a protein shake daily. And he ate vegetables, typically a can of green beans or three to four celery stalks.

Families who live in food deserts have limited access to fresh fruits and vegetables, so they often rely on the kind of food Haub was eating.

"These foods are consumed by lots of people," he said. "It may be an issue of portion size and moderation rather than total removal. I just think it's unrealistic to expect people to totally drop these foods for vegetables and fruits. It may be healthy, but not realistic."

Haub's body fat dropped from 33.4 to 24.9 percent. This posed the question: What matters more for weight loss, the quantity or quality of calories?

His success is probably a result of caloric reduction, said Dawn Jackson Blatner, a dietitian in Chicago, Illinois.

"It's a great reminder for weight loss that calories count," she said. "Is that the bottom line to being healthy? That's another story."

Blatner, a spokeswoman for the American Dietetic Association, said she's not surprised to hear Haub's health markers improved even when he loaded up on processed snack cakes.

Being overweight is the central problem that leads to complications like high blood pressure, diabetes and high cholesterol, she said.

"When you lose weight, regardless of how you're doing it -- even if it's with packaged foods, generally you will see these markers improve when weight loss has improved," she said.

Before jumping on the Ding Dong bandwagon, Blatner warned of health concerns.

"There are things we can't measure," said Blatner, questioning how the lack of fruits and vegetables could affect long-term health. "How much does that affect the risk for cancer? We can't measure how diet changes affect our health."

On August 25, Haub, 41, started his cake diet focusing on portion control.

"I'm eating to the point of need and pushing the plate or wrapper away," he said.

He intended the trial to last a month as a teaching tool for his class. As he lost weight, Haub continued the diet until he reached a normal body mass index.

Before his Twinkie diet, he tried to eat a healthy diet that included whole grains, dietary fiber, berries and bananas, vegetables and occasional treats like pizza.

"There seems to be a disconnect between eating healthy and being healthy," Haub said. "It may not be the same. I was eating healthier, but I wasn't healthy. I was eating too much."

He maintained the same level of moderate physical activity as before going on the diet. (Haub does not have any ties to the snack cake companies.)

To avoid setting a bad example for his kids, Haub ate vegetables in front of his family. Away from the dinner table, he usually unwrapped his meals.

Haub monitored his body composition, blood pressure, cholesterol and glucose, and updated his progress on his Facebook page,

To curb calories, he avoided meat, whole grains and fruits. Once he started adding meat into the diet four weeks ago, his cholesterol level increased.

Haub plans to add about 300 calories to his daily intake now that he's done with the diet. But he's not ditching snack cakes altogether. Despite his weight loss, Haub feels ambivalence.

"I wish I could say the outcomes are unhealthy. I wish I could say it's healthy. I'm not confident enough in doing that. That frustrates a lot of people. One side says it's irresponsible. It is unhealthy, but the data doesn't say that."


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Re: Junk foods, how do they work?
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2010, 09:46:54 PM »
Interesting. I can't imagine how physically bad you'd feel after eating mostly just that stuff after a few weeks though.

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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2010, 10:10:28 PM »
I'm not sure how surprising this is supposed to be. He consumed fewer calories than he expended, so he lost weight. No shit. But he still ate a lot of vegetables, so he was fine.

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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2010, 10:12:49 PM »
If only weight loss was the best indicator for a healthy diet.
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Re: Junk foods, how do they work?
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2010, 10:18:59 PM »
I'm not sure how surprising this is supposed to be. He consumed fewer calories than he expended, so he lost weight. No shit. But he still ate a lot of vegetables, so he was fine.

rumborak

If only weight loss was the best indicator for a healthy diet.

Both of these.

I'll add though, that it's amusing how snack food, junk food, fast food, etc. have a kind of stigma surrounding them that they are "unhealthy" generally speaking, when half the shit you can cook up at home is as bad or worse in many nutritional categories.

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Re: Junk foods, how do they work?
« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2010, 10:20:23 PM »
I think the most important sentence in this is that the guy had a multi-vitamin and protien shake every day, and then just munched on snacks when he was hungry.

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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2010, 10:21:25 PM »
I'm not sure how surprising this is supposed to be. He consumed fewer calories than he expended, so he lost weight. No shit. But he still ate a lot of vegetables, so he was fine.

rumborak

If only weight loss was the best indicator for a healthy diet.

Both of these.

I'll add though, that it's amusing how snack food, junk food, fast food, etc. have a kind of stigma surrounding them that they are "unhealthy" generally speaking, when half the shit you can cook up at home is as bad or worse in many nutritional categories.

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Don't you dare talk about my double bacon breakfast burger like that.  >:(

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Re: Junk foods, how do they work?
« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2010, 11:08:04 PM »
I'm not sure how surprising this is supposed to be. He consumed fewer calories than he expended, so he lost weight. No shit. But he still ate a lot of vegetables, so he was fine.

rumborak

If only weight loss was the best indicator for a healthy diet.

Both of these.

I'll add though, that it's amusing how snack food, junk food, fast food, etc. have a kind of stigma surrounding them that they are "unhealthy" generally speaking, when half the shit you can cook up at home is as bad or worse in many nutritional categories.

-J

Don't you dare talk about my double bacon breakfast burger like that.  >:(

I'll stop if you give me the recipe. :eyebrows:

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Offline William Wallace

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Re: Junk foods, how do they work?
« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2010, 11:22:18 PM »
Science journalism just generally sucks these days. Haub's diet was not a "junk food" diet, just look at his food log. Though far from healthy, his diet wasn't miserably unhealthy, and it's far better than that of the average American.


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« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2010, 06:32:52 AM »
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Re: Junk foods, how do they work?
« Reply #10 on: December 10, 2010, 06:50:42 AM »
I wish the news media would stop calling it a junk food diet as the man pretty clearly had a diet with just some junk food in it. Tom Naughton calculated the averages from his food log and it looked something like this:

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Calories: 1457
Fat (g): 61
Carbohydrate (g): 173
Protein (g): 54

When you take into account the variety among human tolerance to insulin resistance and their metabolisms, I wouldn't call it surprising that Haub was able to lose weight. What I also think is important to mention that most of these news articles totally ignore is that he also lost 6 pounds of lean body mass and started plateauing near the end. I imagine as well that he felt kinda gross most days.
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Re: Junk foods, how do they work?
« Reply #11 on: December 10, 2010, 06:56:32 AM »
I think the biggest danger of studies like this is that the average person is not going to look at the details and will assume this means you can eat junk food everyday and lose weight.

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« Reply #12 on: December 10, 2010, 06:57:20 AM »
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