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Offline dethklok09

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dts new inspiration corner
« on: November 05, 2010, 08:45:53 PM »
whats your idea for a good inspiration corner:
as for me. please give a good reason why so this doesnt turn into a favorite album thread
1 metallica: kill em all.
metallica just seemed to be in it for anger and punch. not too much thought but just a fun album. i see dream theater to be trying a little to hard at times to write an epic or a hit.
2. pink floyd: the wall
they should try their hands at another concept album and the fact that some songs are extremely short and just seem to add an effect (if you know what i mean).
3. nevermore: this godless endeavor
i believe this album is good for dt (as with all nevermore albums) because of the singing and lyrics mainly. many of times the lyrics are very abstract and are dealing with touch issues. also since nevermore focuses on heavy diminished breakdown type riffs id like to see dt do more of this.

anyway this would be a good inspiration corner imo, i know im gonna get alot of people saying "dt should just be dt and not rely on influences." i just think its a good thread idea
also i do understand some of the album reasons can be contradictory but mixes of em would be cool

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Re: dts new inspiration corner
« Reply #1 on: November 05, 2010, 08:54:03 PM »
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Re: dts new inspiration corner
« Reply #2 on: November 05, 2010, 08:55:33 PM »
i also forgot a kevin moore cd has to be in there
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Re: dts new inspiration corner
« Reply #3 on: November 05, 2010, 09:39:28 PM »
Aspera  "Ripples".

I hear you all saying who?? (Check this current debut album out it is effin amazing).

The strange thing here is that this band would have been inspired by Dream Theater (the guys are all only 20) however in quite an odd twist of fate, I believe DT should give these guys album a good hard listen. It is brilliantly written and is the freshest sounding prog metal album in the last decade imo. It reminds me alot of DTs earlier writing style with the sound of today whilst retaining  all the tech/epic sections this style is known for.

I dont mean to sound like a fanboy ranting and given the album a plug, but this could be a really good album for the guys to listen too as inspiration.
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Re: dts new inspiration corner
« Reply #4 on: November 05, 2010, 10:14:10 PM »
I think they might not have an inspiration corner
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« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2010, 11:07:22 PM »
I think they might not have an inspiration corner

I hope they don't.
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Re: dts new inspiration corner
« Reply #6 on: November 05, 2010, 11:10:13 PM »
At a quick glance, I thought your avatar was Nicky Spanjaards.

And then I lol'd.

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« Reply #7 on: November 05, 2010, 11:18:18 PM »
At a quick glance, I thought your avatar was Nicky Spanjaards.

And then I lol'd.
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Re: dts new inspiration corner
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2010, 05:11:32 AM »
I saw a youtube video of making of SDOIT, and their inspiration corner:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFw6INV6xmo

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« Reply #9 on: November 06, 2010, 05:20:26 AM »
At a quick glance, I thought your avatar was Nicky Spanjaards.

And then I lol'd.

Nicky should change his avatar to Nicky.

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Re: dts new inspiration corner
« Reply #10 on: November 06, 2010, 05:21:04 AM »
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Re: dts new inspiration corner
« Reply #11 on: November 06, 2010, 08:00:58 AM »
At a quick glance, I thought your avatar was Nicky Spanjaards.

And then I lol'd.

Nicky should change his avatar to Nicky.
PC, what the hell is that thing in your avatar? It looks like teletubbies meets planet of the apes. :tick2:

and what the hell is an inspiration corner???
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Re: dts new inspiration corner
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2010, 08:13:32 AM »
Inspiration corner is a bunch of CDs that the guys would listen to when they were making a new album.  For SFAM, they had Sgt. Pepper, Tommy, the Wall, and a few other concept albums.  For SDOIT, the only one I remember was Tool's AEnima.  For BC&SL, they were all DT albums.

Not really sure what the new inspiration corner for this album would be.  Mike was the one who really liked to talk about what he listened to.  James has been talking a lot about his musical tastes as well, like Radiohead, Soilwork, Queen, Coheed & Cambria, and Killswitch Engage.  Whether any of those bands show up in an inspiration corner or if there even IS an inspiration corner remains to be seen.  I mean, they haven't even gone into the studio yet :P

Personally, I hope they do away with the inspiration corner, whether it was just a Mike idea or not.

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« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2010, 08:23:14 AM »
This is actually a really good question, but nobody can tell because we don't know what the guys in the band are listening to at the moment. Maybe there would be another Muse album in the inspiration corner, or something by Coheed & Cambria, since I think Petrucci and James are huge fans. But that's about it. I guess Jordan would bring some oldschool prog in the studio, though.

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Re: dts new inspiration corner
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2010, 08:37:58 AM »
3. nevermore: this godless endeavor
i believe this album is good for dt (as with all nevermore albums) because of the singing and lyrics mainly. many of times the lyrics are very abstract and are dealing with touch issues. also since nevermore focuses on heavy diminished breakdown type riffs id like to see dt do more of this.

Nevermore comes off as way too cold for me. I'd like to see an inspiration corner of old Rush and Maiden albums, along with some Yes. DT needs to get back to their roots a little here. I'm a metal leaning fan, but keep Nevermore away from my Dream Theater.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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Re: dts new inspiration corner
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2010, 08:38:57 AM »
Inspiration corner is a bunch of CDs that the guys would listen to when they were making a new album.  For SFAM, they had Sgt. Pepper, Tommy, the Wall, and a few other concept albums.  For SDOIT, the only one I remember was Tool's AEnima.  For BC&SL, they were all DT albums.

Not really sure what the new inspiration corner for this album would be.  Mike was the one who really liked to talk about what he listened to.  James has been talking a lot about his musical tastes as well, like Radiohead, Soilwork, Queen, Coheed & Cambria, and Killswitch Engage.  Whether any of those bands show up in an inspiration corner or if there even IS an inspiration corner remains to be seen.  I mean, they haven't even gone into the studio yet :P

Personally, I hope they do away with the inspiration corner, whether it was just a Mike idea or not.
Thank you for taking the time to explain that, and I totally agree with you. I don't like the concept at all! As a writer who tries to be original and groundbreaking, I can't think of a worse thing you could do to stifle the flow of creativity then gather inspiration from the works of others. Don't like it at all. :tick2:
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« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2010, 12:17:25 PM »
I think they might not have an inspiration corner

I hope they don't.
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No, actually, I do want them to get an inspiration corner, filled with WDaDU, IaW, Awake, ACoS, FII Demos, SFaM, SDoIT, ToT, 8V, SC, BCSL and most importantly - MAJESTY DEMOS.

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Re: dts new inspiration corner
« Reply #17 on: November 06, 2010, 12:23:56 PM »
^You realize that's what they did for the last album, right?

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« Reply #18 on: November 06, 2010, 12:37:37 PM »
^You realize that's what they did for the last album, right?
Really? Including Majesty demos? o:

Well, the last album was definitely a step forward from SC by all means (imo).

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Re: dts new inspiration corner
« Reply #19 on: November 06, 2010, 12:48:38 PM »
I hope there is no inspiration corner for the next album. Sans BC&SL, I believe it stifles the song writing process in recent times due to the fact that they pull a particular feeling or riff from that song making it DT covers song XYZ. I do realize that this has been done all along by the band, I felt that as of late the feeling of song xyz was being taken too literally and the resulting DT song ended up sounding like DT writing a song xyz. To me this was very noticeable on TOT, 8V, SC. I really thought they were heading in the right direction on the last album.

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« Reply #20 on: November 06, 2010, 01:05:56 PM »
Yeah BC&Sl sounds like a DT record.
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« Reply #21 on: November 06, 2010, 08:50:13 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: November 06, 2010, 08:54:48 PM »
While I'm at it, I'll throw in....

DT - When Dream and Day Unite
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« Reply #24 on: November 06, 2010, 08:58:57 PM »
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Re: dts new inspiration corner
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2010, 04:31:29 AM »
I'd rather have no inspiration corner than just old DT albums. For BC&SL I don't think they actually bothered with one, and that was a good thing, meant they just wrote whatever came naturally to them, and it's one their strongest albums.

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« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2010, 01:00:41 PM »
For BC&SL, they were all DT albums.

Do you have a reliable source for that statement? Last thing I remember, DT
stopped doing the inspiration corner thing (or at least talking about it) years ago.
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« Reply #27 on: November 07, 2010, 02:16:37 PM »
I swear I remember reading in some interview Mike did when the album was released, he mentioned the inspiration corner, and said that for BC&SL, they were all DT albums.  Don't have a link to the interview, but I'm 99% sure it was posted on this forum and thats how I read it.

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« Reply #28 on: November 07, 2010, 03:37:54 PM »
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« Reply #30 on: November 07, 2010, 06:41:51 PM »
I think we can assume they will be going in to  write with The Wall fresh in thier heads... even if it's not part of an actually inspiration corner
I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2010, 08:44:49 PM »
I'd rather have no inspiration corner than just old DT albums.

I agree with that.  When I said Images & Words and Awake (and, WDADU), I was [facetiously] trying to make the point that their old albums didn't have, "inspiration corners," either, at least that I'm aware of.  Those albums were just the product of everything DT had listened to. 

Rush, Metallica, Kansas, Maiden, Mahavishnu, Classical Music, Jazz, New Age.... etc.  There wasn't one album you could pinpoint, but rather one huge influence by a particular artist and DT took that influence and made their own thing out of it. 
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« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2010, 09:11:55 PM »
At a quick glance, I thought your avatar was Nicky Spanjaards.

And then I lol'd.

Nicky should change his avatar to Nicky.
PC, what the hell is that thing in your avatar? It looks like teletubbies meets planet of the apes. :tick2:

and what the hell is an inspiration corner???

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Re: dts new inspiration corner
« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2010, 06:36:19 AM »
At a quick glance, I thought your avatar was Nicky Spanjaards.

And then I lol'd.

Nicky should change his avatar to Nicky.
PC, what the hell is that thing in your avatar? It looks like teletubbies meets planet of the apes. :tick2:

and what the hell is an inspiration corner???

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Re: dts new inspiration corner
« Reply #34 on: November 09, 2010, 02:43:40 AM »
Aspera  "Ripples".

Thanks for this.
Didin't know them, but this is a great album!