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Re: Lateralus's Top 13 Underrated/Obscure Musicians
« Reply #175 on: November 08, 2010, 05:10:08 PM »
Well As I Lay Dying are amazing so it can be as oxymoronic as it wants to be, I don't care :metal

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« Reply #176 on: November 08, 2010, 05:11:10 PM »
Thrice's lyrics aren't really christian...I know there is a connection and that there is certain religious values in his lyrics but they always comes off as really good to the least.

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« Reply #177 on: November 08, 2010, 05:11:17 PM »
it's almost like an oxymoron: Christian and Metal.
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While I agree on the culture aspect, it's not like it's unheard of for heavy sounding music to have christian lyrics. Now, christian death/black metal would be pretty contradictory.
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« Reply #178 on: November 08, 2010, 05:11:52 PM »
There are many better metalcore bands than As I Lay Dying.

@Lat: I've heard of a genre called Unblack Metal. Black metal with christian lyrics. :lol
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« Reply #179 on: November 08, 2010, 05:12:44 PM »
There are many better metalcore bands than As I Lay Dying.
Nice troll bait, but I'm not biting.

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« Reply #180 on: November 08, 2010, 05:14:06 PM »
No seriously. Protest the Hero, THE HUMAN ABSTRACT, even Killswitch Engage...
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« Reply #181 on: November 08, 2010, 05:15:02 PM »
Trivium (The Crusade and Shogun) and Between the Buried and Me (Colors).
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« Reply #182 on: November 08, 2010, 05:16:39 PM »
The Agonist is probably the only metalcore band that I truly enjoy...and Alissa is a big part of why.

I've been meaning to give PTH a chance though.

EDIT: forgot BTBAM

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« Reply #183 on: November 08, 2010, 05:16:52 PM »
The Crusade isn't really a metalcore album at all, but yes Trivium > As I Lay Dying.

Also, I never really got into BTBAM. Maybe I should change that...

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« Reply #184 on: November 08, 2010, 05:17:42 PM »
You should give Colors a listen then! :tup

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« Reply #185 on: November 08, 2010, 05:18:39 PM »
I will. What about The Agonist. Which album should I listen to for them?
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« Reply #186 on: November 08, 2010, 05:19:04 PM »
The Crusade isn't really a metalcore album at all
Why do you think I like it so much?
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« Reply #187 on: November 08, 2010, 05:20:33 PM »
BTBAM is the only metalcore band worth listening to. And Colors is their only album worth listening to.
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« Reply #188 on: November 08, 2010, 05:21:02 PM »
I will. What about The Agonist. Which album should I listen to for them?
Their latest album; "Lullabies for the Dormant Mind"! :)

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« Reply #189 on: November 08, 2010, 05:21:11 PM »
Metalcore is still meh for me. Too much post-hardcoreness over it. And on another note: deathcore is absolutely horrifying.

Mathcore tho  :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal

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« Reply #190 on: November 08, 2010, 05:21:54 PM »
 >:(

We were talking about this earlier today. I didn't really like it other than the title track. (one of my favorite instrumentals ever)

deathcore is absolutely horrifying.
This is all my roommate listens to. It pisses me off how awful it is.
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« Reply #191 on: November 08, 2010, 05:22:25 PM »
@Gorille: Listen to Fortress. NAO
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« Reply #192 on: November 08, 2010, 05:51:54 PM »
Jeez why does no-one like AILD? They have easily the best drummer and best guitarists (ignoring A.J. from THA). The Vocalist is one of the better clean singers in metalcore, and the growler is probably the best aside from Howard Jones (killswitch).

And Trivium better than AILD? No way. The Crusade is awful, their first album is throwaway, while their second and fourth have good on it, they don't match up to the latest two AILD albums by a long shot.

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« Reply #193 on: November 08, 2010, 05:53:25 PM »
I remember liking one or two AILD songs, but not much more than that. Trivium only have two albums worth listening to, but I really like those two albums.
I felt its length in quite a few places.

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« Reply #194 on: November 08, 2010, 05:56:10 PM »
Jeez why does no-one like AILD? They have easily the best drummer and best guitarists (ignoring A.J. from THA, Adam Dutkiewicz from KSE, Matt Heafy from Trivium). The Vocalist is one of the better clean singers in metalcore, and the growler is probably the best aside from Jess Leach (killswitch), Phil Labonte (All That Remains).
Fixed. Though I'm sure I still missed a few.

Seriously, I have listened to a lot of AILD back in the day and never found them to be as good as most other bands that have been mentioned.
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« Reply #195 on: November 08, 2010, 05:57:46 PM »
Alissa White-Gluz is the best vocalist in metalcore IMO.

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« Reply #196 on: November 08, 2010, 06:03:38 PM »
Jeez why does no-one like AILD? They have easily the best drummer and best guitarists (ignoring A.J. from THA, Adam Dutkiewicz from KSE, Matt Heafy from Trivium). The Vocalist is one of the better clean singers in metalcore, and the growler is probably the best aside from Jess Leach (killswitch), Phil Labonte (All That Remains).
Fixed. Though I'm sure I still missed a few.

Seriously, I have listened to a lot of AILD back in the day and never found them to be as good as most other bands that have been mentioned.

Adam from KSE being a better guitarist? I don't remember being blown away by any solos on their albums, and considering that he *produced* the two most recent AILD albums, and puts out KSE's worst album (the new self titled), well it doesn't really matter then. And okay I forgot Heafy.

Leach was great sure, but I'm talking current people - he burnt himself out. And Phil? Don't make me start, All That Remains have been a joke the past two albums.

You should listen to the two newest AILD albums if you haven't because they are light-years ahead than their old stuff.


On the subject of deathcore, I like a few black dahlia murder songs (vulgar picture, miasma) but that's it.


edit: and I disagree about them being better growlers actually - the AILD guy is the most diverse of any metalcore growler by far - the high screaming, the shouting and the low death, he's got it all covered (most notably in the 2010 album).

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« Reply #197 on: November 08, 2010, 06:05:54 PM »
Deathcore is absolutely awful. I honestly can't stand it at all.

And yes, Adam from KSE is a great guitarist.
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« Reply #198 on: November 08, 2010, 06:08:29 PM »
August Burns Red are a great Metalcore band too.

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« Reply #199 on: November 08, 2010, 06:08:44 PM »
There are many better metalcore bands than As I Lay Dying.

@Lat: I've heard of a genre called Unblack Metal. Black metal with christian lyrics. :lol
Horde  :lol

Also, Deathcore is the worst genre of music ever. I mean, when you have shit like this running around....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59rnVGzRmZo&ob=av2e

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« Reply #200 on: November 08, 2010, 06:12:04 PM »
Hey, at least they aren't Brokencyde.
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« Reply #201 on: November 08, 2010, 06:13:04 PM »
Also, Deathcore is the worst genre of music ever. I mean, when you have shit like this running around....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59rnVGzRmZo&ob=av2e

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I'm always curious why they actually have 6 strings on their guitar. They only play one note throughout the entire song sooo....
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« Reply #202 on: November 08, 2010, 06:13:46 PM »
Dem breakdowns.




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« Reply #203 on: November 08, 2010, 06:15:30 PM »
My roommate tries to play me breakdows and literally all I hear is some douche making pig noises and the same riff being played at a slower tempo. Every single time I ask "How is this different than the last one?"
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« Reply #204 on: November 08, 2010, 06:16:14 PM »
Also, Deathcore is the worst genre of music ever. I mean, when you have shit like this running around....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59rnVGzRmZo&ob=av2e

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I'm always curious why they actually have 6 strings on their guitar. They only play one note throughout the entire song sooo....
I don't think anyone that plays deathcore has ever reached the mental capacity to realize that.
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« Reply #205 on: November 08, 2010, 06:18:03 PM »
My roommate tries to play me breakdows and literally all I hear is some douche making pig noises and the same riff being played at a slower tempo. Every single time I ask "How is this different than the last one?"
Remember, we had a conversation about this while playing Halo 3. I'm all like "I bet that breakdown sounds like 'dun dun dundundun dun" and you were all like it sounds like "dun dun dundundun dun".
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« Reply #206 on: November 08, 2010, 06:20:17 PM »
 :rollin :rollin

I do remember this. It really brought the lols and my roommate was pissed.




I should make a thread about my roommate and post all the ridiculous things about music he says. He legitimately said this: "Any music older than 10 years old is complete shit." and he tried to defend it for like 30 minutes while I sat there in AWE of his stupidity.
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« Reply #207 on: November 08, 2010, 06:22:43 PM »
He legitimately said this: "Any music older than 10 years old is complete shit." and he tried to defend it for like 30 minutes while I sat there in AWE of his stupidity.
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« Reply #208 on: November 08, 2010, 06:26:20 PM »
To be fair, Black Dahlia Murder are a LOT better than that video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyvhabRovF8

@Lat if Tim Yeung is on your list I will be pleasantly surprised, he seems to get no attention.


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« Reply #209 on: November 08, 2010, 06:28:19 PM »
He actually isn't on my list, but could probably have made it if I thought of him earlier. Hell, anyone worthy of momentarily replacing the great Pete Sandoval deserves some major recognition.
I felt its length in quite a few places.

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