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Who's that Pokémon?!

Virgil Donati
6 (2.2%)
Peter Wildoer
17 (6.1%)
Mike Mangini
157 (56.3%)
Marco Minnemann
49 (17.6%)
Thomas Lang
23 (8.2%)
Derek Roddy
2 (0.7%)
Aquiles Priester
4 (1.4%)
emindead
21 (7.5%)

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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3605 on: February 22, 2011, 04:07:10 PM »
What are you talking about?

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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3606 on: February 22, 2011, 04:12:11 PM »
I can almost 100% guarantee that it has more to do with inner conflict. I can't discuss exactly what is going on, but I have seen proof of this. 

What are you talking about?

I can almost 100% guarantee that it has more to do with inner conflict. I can't discuss exactly what is going on, but I have seen proof of this.

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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3607 on: February 22, 2011, 04:15:00 PM »
*spits on you*

Where is this inner conflict? Between who?

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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3608 on: February 22, 2011, 04:17:50 PM »
*spits on you*

Where is this inner conflict? Between who?


*hocks a loogie on you*

Between you and Naked apparently.  He has precognition.  ;D

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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3609 on: February 22, 2011, 04:22:30 PM »
I can almost 100% guarantee that it has more to do with inner conflict. I can't discuss exactly what is going on, but I have seen proof of this. 
"I can almost 100% guarantee" == "I have no fucking clue"

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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3610 on: February 22, 2011, 04:24:00 PM »
I can almost 100% guarantee that it has more to do with inner conflict. I can't discuss exactly what is going on, but I have seen proof of this. 
"I can almost 100% guarantee" == "I have no fucking clue"

I can almost 100% guarantee that your right.

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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3611 on: February 22, 2011, 04:26:09 PM »
I can almost 100% guarantee that it has more to do with inner conflict. I can't discuss exactly what is going on, but I have seen proof of this. 

You're not the only one that has gone out to drink with JLB.  :hat


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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3612 on: February 22, 2011, 08:43:38 PM »
Alright, I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. A very special "someone" is playing in my old band, that is how i gained this knowledge. I just don't think the label should be blamed for the wait. You don't have to believe me, was just trying to give you guys some insight.
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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3613 on: February 22, 2011, 08:46:10 PM »
Alright, I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. A very special "someone" is playing in my old band, that is how i gained this knowledge. I just don't think the label should be blamed for the wait. You don't have to believe me, was just trying to give you guys some insight.
If you tell us the name of your old band and the very special "someone," we'd be more inclined to believe you.
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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3614 on: February 22, 2011, 08:47:34 PM »
I can almost 100% guarantee that it has more to do with inner conflict turbulence. I can't discuss exactly what is going on, but I have seen proof of this. 

FTFY

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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3615 on: February 22, 2011, 08:51:10 PM »
I can almost 100% guarantee that it has more to do with inner conflict. I can't discuss exactly what is going on, but I have seen proof of this.  

Inner conflict as in they think they may have made a mistake?

Inner conflict as in all the band members aren't on the same page as far as their choice is concerned and are now squabbling about it?

Inner conflict as in the new guy wants more money than they are willing to pay him?

Inner conflict as in Portnoy's departure has caused some legal proceedings not label related?

Inner conflict as in......?
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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3616 on: February 22, 2011, 08:54:57 PM »
Inner conflict as if they have gases.
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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3617 on: February 22, 2011, 09:10:05 PM »
Inner conflict as if they have gases.

guesses? or gas? lol

Anyway, JLB did say that the wait will have been worth it and understood. So I'm not too concerned about it.
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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3618 on: February 22, 2011, 09:37:02 PM »
Gas can be pretty suck. I get it almost nightly. Might be from all the living off Chinese food in the studio.

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« Reply #3619 on: February 22, 2011, 09:43:24 PM »
Ha! Order a pizza every once in a while. What's the matter with you?  :lol
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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3620 on: February 22, 2011, 10:02:56 PM »
Alright, I wasn't trying to be a dick about it. A very special "someone" is playing in my old band, that is how i gained this knowledge. I just don't think the label should be blamed for the wait. You don't have to believe me, was just trying to give you guys some insight.

I believe what you say

Seriously. Name your source. For the love of god it's not hard. And somebody MIGHT take you seriously

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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3621 on: February 22, 2011, 10:07:21 PM »
Gas can be pretty suck. I get it almost nightly. Might be from all the living off Chinese food in the studio.

Chinese food delivered by... Mike Portnoy.


Seriously nakedman just say what is happening. I don't even get why you would say something is happening and than go "Oh guys, I can't say what's happening, I just can't say" If you can't expand on your source and what is happening, than why post at all. You could have kept it to yourself. JUST NAME YOUR SOURCE AND EXPLAIN WHAT IS HAPPENING! IT'S NOT THAT HARD! (these aren't angry caps and !'s)
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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3622 on: February 22, 2011, 10:09:26 PM »
I'm not sure about naked man, but the idea that DT wanted Marco, but he turned them down so they then had to wait for Mangini to finish up doing his other studio work seems plausible enough to me.

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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3623 on: February 22, 2011, 10:10:15 PM »
I guess I don't get why Minnemann would audition if he would just turn it down...
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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3624 on: February 22, 2011, 10:19:39 PM »
I'm not sure about naked man, but the idea that DT wanted Marco, but he turned them down so they then had to wait for Mangini to finish up doing his other studio work seems plausible enough to me.

This is basically it. You guys don't have to believe me.. I can't cite where I got this info because I was told by these people that it is supposed to be secret. I just wanted to help clarify SOME of the questions with whatever insight I have.
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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3625 on: February 22, 2011, 10:22:27 PM »
Could you PM us?  :biggrin:
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« Reply #3626 on: February 22, 2011, 10:22:58 PM »
I guess I don't get why Minnemann would audition if he would just turn it down...

You just beat me to it. That's the thing with nakedman's guitar player source that I don't understand. That and the fact that nakedman said that he didn't fully believe his guitar player source when he told him that.

@ nakedman - Is your current source of info the same guitar player who you didn't believe before?

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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3627 on: February 22, 2011, 10:23:45 PM »
I guess I don't get why Minnemann would audition if he would just turn it down...

This.

Although, whether that's true or not, it kinda makes sense. Maybe the "delay" is matter of the drummers who auditioned and not a legal/personal/any other type of problem speculated here problem.
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« Reply #3628 on: February 22, 2011, 10:25:36 PM »
So gas isn't the cause then?
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« Reply #3629 on: February 22, 2011, 10:27:00 PM »
The fact that James says "all will be understood" tells me that it might not be a legal issue.  I seriously doubt they will couple the drummer announcement with a negative legalistic reason.
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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3630 on: February 22, 2011, 10:27:22 PM »
Yes. Starbucks 'causes gases, so it's evident they all have a severe case of gas.
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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3631 on: February 22, 2011, 10:28:40 PM »
Yes, it is the same source. The difference now is, that Marco is planning on joining my friend's band. I used to play drums for this band, and have been close friends with the guitarist for years. The whole audition thing doesn't make sense to me either, but I guess it could have something to do with some stipulations the band made after he made it.
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« Reply #3632 on: February 22, 2011, 10:29:59 PM »
Oh ok, thank you sir.

Edit: It's making more sense now.
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« Reply #3633 on: February 22, 2011, 10:31:32 PM »
That doesn't make much sense (The Marco joining yer old band thing). I mean, I don't mean to disrespect your old band or anything, but I seriously doubt it is a band with the name and fame of Dream Theater.  :lol As a musician myself, being presented with the opportunity of joining a world-class act or the opportunity to join a lesser band, the choice would be quite obvious.


I'm just bringing your situation up, which I think it's kinda interesting to discuss.
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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3634 on: February 22, 2011, 10:36:02 PM »
This whole thing is very intriguing. James keeps telling us all will be understood, so things are a little bit weirder than even they expected. The fact too, with them saying this, they've wanted to tell us who the drummer is a long time ago, but things are holding them up. It makes me gain more respect for the situation.

Also, I guess it will be interesting to see what exactly is holding it up. I also wonder how things would have went down under a different record label. That plays out in my mind a few times.
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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3635 on: February 22, 2011, 10:38:20 PM »
You know, it confuses me as well. I quit the band to study film scoring at Berklee, but I would never pass up DT, even if it meant ruining my education. All I know is that I have heard his tracks, and him and the guitarist hit it off on a personal level. The band is actually quite small, but have quite a bit of commercial potential.
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« Reply #3636 on: February 22, 2011, 10:41:34 PM »
I just really wanted Minnemann's splash cymbals... they sounded so cool.   :sadpanda:
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Re: Place your bets - DT's new drummer.
« Reply #3637 on: February 22, 2011, 10:42:27 PM »
I just really want Minnemann... he sounds so cool  :sadpanda:
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« Reply #3638 on: February 22, 2011, 10:44:45 PM »
I don't know. Mangini seems like a cool guy. I'll bet he'll hit it off great with the rest of the guys. And while Mangini's been successful as a solo artist, I know he's always wanted to end things in a band environment.

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« Reply #3639 on: February 22, 2011, 10:50:57 PM »
I don't know. Mangini seems like a cool guy. I'll bet he'll hit it off great with the rest of the guys. And while Mangini's been successful as a solo artist, I know he's always wanted to end things in a band environment.

Totally. Plus if he quit teaching at Berklee to join DT, you know he's serious about it.
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