Place your bets again - DT's next top model.

[Metabog]

fodder for the rumor mill
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=109670739104607&id=123721530983535

The last DT drummer was teaching a student named Max how to drum...........

Maybe Mangini's going out on the road with some other band?

Uh oh...
Is there even any point speculating anymore? There's no other reason why Mike Mangini would quit his spot at Berklee at exactly this time. I really hoped it was going to be Marco Minnemann.

[atmyne]

I am now officially sold on Minnemann AND Mangini. Either way I will be very happy. At the end of the day, DT know what will be best for them, and ultimately they will pick the best candidate, even if it is in fact Aquilles or someone of that nature.
Keep in mind, about minnemann, there is very little evidence to suggest that he is out at all; you could interpret Jordans' jam with him as to mean that he is the drummer and this is some sort of casual bonding activity, or that he didn't make the cut, but Jordan/minnemann tee'd up a jam because they are interested in each others playing style (as a result of the audition and conversations they had).

[Metabog]

I have to say, Minnemann is PERFECT for JR's solo stuff. He's like a metal-er version of Rod Morgenstein.

[Lowdz]

Mangini playing some Rush :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Biis2GFg6KA&feature=related

I think this is the closest we have to MM playing some DT.

Is it just me who thinks that was awful?

[nineaxe]

Mangini playing some Rush :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Biis2GFg6KA&feature=related

I think this is the closest we have to MM playing some DT.

Is it just me who thinks that was awful?

Drumming was good. Bad sounds quality for sure.

[Nihil-Morari]

Not really tasteful, true. But it's a drum teacher showing what he's got.

[Kotowboy]

Mangini playing some Rush :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Biis2GFg6KA&feature=related

I think this is the closest we have to MM playing some DT.

Is it just me who thinks that was awful?

No. I have not seen *one* video of Mangini I have been remotely impressed by. Not one.

Marco on the otehr hand. . . .

[Kotowboy]

Oops double post...

[skydivingninja]

Looking at that fb post, the part where the OP says "he gets made when I mention it" is kind of odd.  Why would he be mad about him speculating that he's going to play in DT if he got the gig and indeed will be playing in DT.  If he did get the gig, most people would give a wink and a "wait and see."

Still, if he's "busy for a while," that could mean Mangini is just kind of weird and he'll be drumming for DT anyway.  Still hoping for Marco.

[nineaxe]

Looking at that fb post, the part where the OP says "he gets made when I mention it" is kind of odd.  Why would he be mad about him speculating that he's going to play in DT if he got the gig and indeed will be playing in DT.  If he did get the gig, most people would give a wink and a "wait and see."

Still, if he's "busy for a while," that could mean Mangini is just kind of weird and he'll be drumming for DT anyway.  Still hoping for Marco.

Maybe he's getting mad because of all the legal mumbo jumbo going on in the background. He's probably got a contract with Berklee to teach for x amount of years. That has to be worked out before the DT stuff can start. Talking about it could jeopardize the whole thing.

[herydreather]

still hoping The "LANG"

[skydivingninja]

I'm not an expert on teaching in college professors hiring procedures, but teachers don't really sign contracts to teach at a school for X years.  Its just a job that you can get fired from or quit.  Colleges just tend to try and find people who aren't looking for a temporary thing when they hire professors.  Maybe Berklee operates differently, but I have a feeling that's not really the case.  

[jdprsaga]

HA! epic fail.. disregard my last post!!! Edited now

[mentalny]

Marco Minnemman ?

I have strange feeling that new drummer will be someone from the shadow..

[tri.ad]

At this point, I'd be happy with either Mangini or Minnemann. Both are amazing drummers from what I can tell, and both of them seem to be really cool guys.

[ariich]

At this point, I'd be happy with either Mangini or Minnemann. Both are amazing drummers from what I can tell, and both of them seem to be really cool guys.

My feelings exactly.

[oh8wrx]

Mangini is a god.  seems really humble and loves what he does.  i think he'd be a good fit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Gxut0odyc

watch that and tell me he's not a badass!

[Nic35]

I'm sure we'll have a drum solo during the next tour so everybody can see how good the new drummer is.

[jeebustrain]

I'm sure we'll have a drum solo during the next tour so everybody can see how good the new drummer is.

I heard they plan on covering Back In Black in it's entirety also, so we can see there, too.

[bloop]

I'm sure we'll have a drum solo during the next tour so everybody can see how good the new drummer is.

...or bad.  


I kid, but yeah...I'd like it if they had a drum solo on the album itself but somehow I doubt it.

[MetalManiac666]

I'm sure we'll have a drum solo during the next tour so everybody can see how good the new drummer is.

I heard they plan on covering Back In Black in it's entirety also, so we can see there, too.

lol

[bosk1]

Mangini is a god.  seems really humble and loves what he does.  i think he'd be a good fit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8Gxut0odyc

watch that and tell me he's not a badass!

Exactly.  Anyone who can say he doesn't impress has something wrong with them.  Whether you subjectively like him or not is another story, but you can't really say he isn't extremely impressive.

[skydivingninja]

Unless you're not impressed, because that's another level of subjectivity.

You can't deny he has technical skill though.

[Metabog]

Unless you're not impressed, because that's another level of subjectivity.

You can't deny he has technical skill though.

He's definitely fast and powerful, I just haven't ever seen him play a memorable groove.    Marco Minnemann on the other hand seems to have no trouble making complex patterns sound fluid, and he puts a lot of "detail" into every note. Don't get me wrong, Mangini is definitely great, otherwise he wouldn't be so respected, I just think Minnemann has a goofier attitude that goes well with the prog rock side of DT that I like.

[Kotowboy]

Technically impressive but ear-pleasing ? Not to me.

If all he's gonna do in DT is do 1,024 BPM drum fills, i'm out.

[jdprsaga]

Hum.. another hypothesis using the fact that they haven't announced it yet and are really taking care of keeping it secret:

Choosen one: Aquiles Priester

They haven't announced it because they are waiting for his Work Visa (there is a chance inmigration can say no). It haven't been leaked from a good "truthful" source because they (good sources) know it can fall if he doesn't get the visa.

Just an hypothesis tho, i still hope it's Lang!

[nakedman]

I really hope not! He is a washed up metal dude. Dream Theater need finesse, something that AP does not have. What is with all the talk about AP? He shouldn't even be considered. Marco is def my first choice. He would complete the virtuosity that DT need, and that MP lacked,

[Tunnel Vision]

I'm still pulling for Thomas Lang!

[7StringedBeast]

I'm now routing for Minneman or Lang.  But mostly Minneman. 

[ariich]

If all he's gonna do in DT is do 1,024 BPM drum fills, i'm out.

The fact that you'd even consider that as a possibility is hilarious, and shows that you're not being at all rational.

Also check out this post from earlier in the thread which really showcases Mangini's versatility:

Mangini clips:

Great early career drumsolo with Extreme (tasteful, fast, double bass, polyrhythmic)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um24wnmC3xs

WFD world record: 1203 single strokes in a minute!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7TzWrKso4I

His most famous drumsolo, on tour with Steve Vai this has everything:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31c-FL0ZlZ0

Incredibly tasty groovy solo, bird view:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1EhMdqE51c

A 10 minute solo, sit this one through and you know he's really one of the best:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyaFL24Zu8c

And to show he's an awesome person:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQTBtkB_mWQ

[Edan the Man]

I've been rooting for Lang from the start, but after watching some more videos, I would be just as happy with Mangini.

[Kotowboy]

If all he's gonna do in DT is do 1,024 BPM drum fills, i'm out.

The fact that you'd even consider that as a possibility is hilarious, and shows that you're not being at all rational.

Perhaps but not totally unfounded since most of the videos i've seen are him just going as fast as he can. . .

[ariich]

Well, for a start you clearly haven't bothered watching the videos that people have been posting.

Plus, the same can be said for pretty much all technically proficient drummers. People post vids on youtube to show off their chops, often doing drum-only solos. Has no bearing on how they play within bands on different styles.

[Leorimus]

Though my favorite to fill the position is Lang, Mangini is more than capable. The good thing is that whether it's Mangini or Lang or even Minnemann DT will raise the bar drumming wise, and that can only be a good thing. To me drum solos are not the ideal place to evaluate the player's creativity as most of the time they are just showing off their technical skills.

Most of what I've heard from Mangini (The 3 LaBrie albums, Extreme (Waiting for the Punchline) and Annihilator) he plays really solid, and tastefully, yet in my opinion nothing to write home about, to me honest if it were for those recorded performances alone I would've never thought of him as a candidate. Granted none of those recordings feature music as complex as DT's. I'm sure he can pull it off and then some.

What I've heard from Lang, is mostly he's instrumental album StOrk, the music has a lot in common with DT in terms of progressiveness and heaviness, his performance is very creative and simply mind blowing, I guess that is why I tend to side with Lang.

When all is said and done, we will end up with DT with an incredible drummer plus the benefil of having discovered lots of new music with increadible drumming along the way, I know I have.

[ariich]

To me drum solos are not the ideal place to evaluate the player's creativity as most of the time they are just showing off their technical skills.

That's what I was trying to get at, but you worded it more coherently.