An Exclusive Look into The Band’s Search for a New Drummer

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Sparta-ll

Over-analysing is a compliment when you spend an hour to watch ~20 minute youtube-video   ;D

The whole phone call scene just seemed so off-place that my inner over-analyser insisted to take a better look at it  :D

reneranucci

Quote from: ariich on May 03, 2011, 12:41:05 PM
The call was made on November 5th.
The new album is a concept album about V for Vedetta.

FretMuppet

Remember when Petrucci said that he's entered the studio back in Jamuary? Many people speculated that he was only setting up equipment and not actually recording.

Well, maybe he went in back in November to prepare everything with the band and set up all the stuff, then they took a Christmas break, and returned in January to begin writing?

bosk1

Quote from: Sparta-ll on May 03, 2011, 01:46:54 PM
The phone call scene is definately from Cove (https://covecitysoundstudios.com/WP23/wp-content/gallery/studio/studio4.jpg)


Compare Petrucci's looks from the beginning of audition to the look that he has in the phone call scene (+plus the one that he has in the studio teaser scene)

10/18/2010:  Drummer auditions begin.  The auditions are held over a 3-day period.  It is later revealed that 7 drummers auditioned. (Petrucci)

11/5/2010:  Dream Theater notifies auditionees of the audition results. (Beartrucci)

Some where around 11/17/2010 ----> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPbiasKhh7s (Petrucci)

1/3/2011:  Dream Theater enters the studio to begin work on DT's 11th album. (Beartrucci)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QHMQjH17aw


Petrucci, Beartrucci, Petrucci, Beartrucci... Either he changes his beard style very often or the scene is fake...

I reworked that a little bit so it is more clear and posted it on CJS's forum:  https://www.jameslabrie.com/forum/index.php?topic=3157.msg18873#msg18873

Maybe I'll post it on JP's and Jordan's as well if James doesn't answer.

Sparta-ll

I'm only interested in that scene because I'd like to know more about Mangini's input on the new album...

I completely understand why Mangini wasn't a part of the writing process for this particular album but still I would've liked to see him in the "writing scenes" in the end of the third part.

Jordan said (according to this https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=22053.35) that he, John and John (No James???) wrote the album, but James was at least present in the studio when they were writing (and thus he might have very well shared opinions and ideas with the rest of the band). I'm sure Mangini would have had some ideas.

Don't get me wrong, I personally think that Jordan, John and John are more than capable of writing an album that'll I love, but a little help from your friends wouldn't hurt you...


lucky7

I finally had the chance to watch all the you tube videos, what a decision the band had, every guy was amazing.
Once again though congrats to Mangini. I was nearly crying at the end, MM was so shocked, so thankful it was great to see.  :)

DarkLord_Lalinc

Quote from: bösk1 on May 04, 2011, 08:00:51 AM
Quote from: Sparta-ll on May 03, 2011, 01:46:54 PM
The phone call scene is definately from Cove (https://covecitysoundstudios.com/WP23/wp-content/gallery/studio/studio4.jpg)


Compare Petrucci's looks from the beginning of audition to the look that he has in the phone call scene (+plus the one that he has in the studio teaser scene)

10/18/2010:  Drummer auditions begin.  The auditions are held over a 3-day period.  It is later revealed that 7 drummers auditioned. (Petrucci)

11/5/2010:  Dream Theater notifies auditionees of the audition results. (Beartrucci)

Some where around 11/17/2010 ----> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPbiasKhh7s (Petrucci)

1/3/2011:  Dream Theater enters the studio to begin work on DT's 11th album. (Beartrucci)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QHMQjH17aw


Petrucci, Beartrucci, Petrucci, Beartrucci... Either he changes his beard style very often or the scene is fake...

I reworked that a little bit so it is more clear and posted it on CJS's forum:  https://www.jameslabrie.com/forum/index.php?topic=3157.msg18873#msg18873

Maybe I'll post it on JP's and Jordan's as well if James doesn't answer.

"Hmm...our crack investigative team at DTF has uncovered more clues that have only led to more questions..."
:lol

Dublagent66

I told a buddy of mine (and long time DT fan) about the auditions.  After he checked out the episodes, he replied back referring to MM and I quote, "The guy is a monster."   :hat

bosk1

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on May 04, 2011, 03:17:11 PM
Quote from: bösk1 on May 04, 2011, 08:00:51 AM
Quote from: Sparta-ll on May 03, 2011, 01:46:54 PM
The phone call scene is definately from Cove (https://covecitysoundstudios.com/WP23/wp-content/gallery/studio/studio4.jpg)


Compare Petrucci's looks from the beginning of audition to the look that he has in the phone call scene (+plus the one that he has in the studio teaser scene)

10/18/2010:  Drummer auditions begin.  The auditions are held over a 3-day period.  It is later revealed that 7 drummers auditioned. (Petrucci)

11/5/2010:  Dream Theater notifies auditionees of the audition results. (Beartrucci)

Some where around 11/17/2010 ----> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPbiasKhh7s (Petrucci)

1/3/2011:  Dream Theater enters the studio to begin work on DT's 11th album. (Beartrucci)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QHMQjH17aw


Petrucci, Beartrucci, Petrucci, Beartrucci... Either he changes his beard style very often or the scene is fake...

I reworked that a little bit so it is more clear and posted it on CJS's forum:  https://www.jameslabrie.com/forum/index.php?topic=3157.msg18873#msg18873

Maybe I'll post it on JP's and Jordan's as well if James doesn't answer.

"Hmm...our crack investigative team at DTF has uncovered more clues that have only led to more questions..."
:lol

I posted the same thread on JP's forum and have been jumped on by a ton of people who apparently need to have the sticks surgically revmoed from their...well, you know.

DarkLord_Lalinc


Ħ

Did anyone notice that under Peter Wildoer's bio in the documentary, it said he played for "James LeBrie."

j

YES BrotherH, somebody pointed that out like 20 pages ago, please carefully read all 95 pages of the thread each time you post.  *exasperated sigh*

-J

MajorMatt

Quote from: bösk1 on May 04, 2011, 08:00:51 AM
I'll post it on JP's [forum].....

You're brave! :P

EDIT: Just seen your other post, I should have warned you earlier  :lol

wasteland

Quote from: bösk1 on May 04, 2011, 08:00:51 AM
Quote from: Sparta-ll on May 03, 2011, 01:46:54 PM
The phone call scene is definately from Cove (https://covecitysoundstudios.com/WP23/wp-content/gallery/studio/studio4.jpg)


Compare Petrucci's looks from the beginning of audition to the look that he has in the phone call scene (+plus the one that he has in the studio teaser scene)

10/18/2010:  Drummer auditions begin.  The auditions are held over a 3-day period.  It is later revealed that 7 drummers auditioned. (Petrucci)

11/5/2010:  Dream Theater notifies auditionees of the audition results. (Beartrucci)

Some where around 11/17/2010 ----> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPbiasKhh7s (Petrucci)

1/3/2011:  Dream Theater enters the studio to begin work on DT's 11th album. (Beartrucci)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2QHMQjH17aw


Petrucci, Beartrucci, Petrucci, Beartrucci... Either he changes his beard style very often or the scene is fake...

I reworked that a little bit so it is more clear and posted it on CJS's forum:  https://www.jameslabrie.com/forum/index.php?topic=3157.msg18873#msg18873

Maybe I'll post it on JP's and Jordan's as well if James doesn't answer.
I would insist on JLP's hair lenght. It is noticebly longer in the phone scene than in the auditions photage. Yet, according to Peter, there are only 18 days between the audition and the announcement time (5.11), which is to say, about two weeks and a half. Would your hair grow about three inches in two weeks? Unlikely.

I for me think that the phone call scene is not original. Come on, look at the guy's expressions. They are announcing the biggest decision of their career, yet they seem to be extremely relaxed and cool about that. Or consider their displacement, very subtly ordered: the singer/frontman makes the call, the band leader sits on his side, while the other two members stand behind them. This order is very rational, and thus unlikely to be spontaneous.

But, you may say, they may have arranged the spatial displacement of the scene before making the call. Right. But once again, look at their expressions when they are listening to MM's joyful and intense reaction. They seem to be held down, THEIR reaction is definitely poor compared to what you may expect in such a situation, and actually closer to the reaction of someone remembering a moment that has already occurred some time before. I mean, when I first watched Mike's reaction I felt a strong emphaty with him, and got a bit emotional myself - as i think many here did - but now, watching again the video, or recalling the O-Face, i just smile the exact way the remaining members do on the video. This is not by any means a proof, nor it is intended to be, but just some commonsense-driven wannabe detective speculation  :lol


RafTen

Maybe they were holding the announcement because they needed to rehearse to play this scene properly  :lol