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how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« on: October 25, 2010, 03:55:50 PM »
now im sure that we are all a fan of epics, how long do you think it should be. or should they not make one at all. personally i think they should keep it down to maybe a 10 minute one. just because of how bc&sl was full of long epics. btw by an epic i mean like a long full story with climaxes and everything, (something you can clearly differenciate from a normal song). of course epic songs dont have to be long and drawn out but im sure you know what i mean.
metropolis vs dark eternal night i think you know what is considered a dt epic
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2010, 03:56:44 PM »
About 14 minutes. Give or take a minute.
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2010, 03:58:17 PM »
Infinite. The lyrics will consist of the digits of pi.
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2010, 03:58:42 PM »
It's not the length but how you use it.
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2010, 03:59:20 PM »
Quote from: kingshmegland on October 25, 2010, 03:58:42 PM
It's not the length but how you use it.

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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2010, 03:59:24 PM »
11 or 12 minutes ala Trial of Tears or Scarred.
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2010, 04:01:56 PM »
An album like Awake. Short heavy song, with a song as good as their best one, Scarred.
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2010, 04:07:31 PM »
Quote from: kingshmegland on October 25, 2010, 03:58:42 PM
It's not the length but how you use it.
well lets just assume that the song is good but not awesome based on your perception
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2010, 04:26:32 PM »
I'm hoping for an album like Octavarium or Systematic Chaos.  Not quality-wise, but structure-wise.  A bunch of shorter songs, with one beast, and one mini-beast.
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #9 on: October 25, 2010, 04:26:52 PM »
Quote from: dethklok09 on October 25, 2010, 04:07:31 PM
Quote from: kingshmegland on October 25, 2010, 03:58:42 PM
It's not the length but how you use it.
well lets just assume that the song is good but not awesome based on your perception

I am the first to say I LOVE LONG SONGS.  But not just long for the sake of it. I want them to blow me away for 20 minutes. Not drag in parts.
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #10 on: October 25, 2010, 04:28:44 PM »
Quote from: kingshmegland on October 25, 2010, 04:26:52 PM
Quote from: dethklok09 on October 25, 2010, 04:07:31 PM
Quote from: kingshmegland on October 25, 2010, 03:58:42 PM
It's not the length but how you use it.
well lets just assume that the song is good but not awesome based on your perception

I am the first to say I LOVE LONG SONGS.  But not just long for the sake of it. I want them to blow me away for 20 minutes. Not drag in parts.


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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #11 on: October 25, 2010, 04:44:18 PM »
However long they want it to be, minus 3-5 minutes of what will no doubt be unnecessary instrumental wankery.
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #12 on: October 25, 2010, 05:00:23 PM »
Around 15 minutes.
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #13 on: October 25, 2010, 05:02:50 PM »
I want all of the songs on the next album to be as long as they need to be. 
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #14 on: October 25, 2010, 05:39:33 PM »
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on October 25, 2010, 05:02:50 PM
I want all of the songs on the next album to be as long as they need to be. 
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2010, 05:46:31 PM »
I love long songs as much as the next prog fan, but I honestly could do without an epic for a few albums... but echoing what's already been said, I just want it to be long enough. 
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2010, 05:54:28 PM »
Quote from: Nic35 on October 25, 2010, 04:01:56 PM
An album like Awake. Short heavy song, with a song as good as their best one, Scarred.

surely, you cant be serious?  :facepalm:
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2010, 05:57:29 PM »
Quote from: darkshade on October 25, 2010, 05:54:28 PM
Quote from: Nic35 on October 25, 2010, 04:01:56 PM
An album like Awake. Short heavy song, with a song as good as their best one, Scarred.

surely, you cant be serious?  :facepalm:

He IS serious.  And don't call--never mind, doesn't work when it's typed.  Damn.
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2010, 06:10:51 PM »
doesnt matter to me... i just dont want another Six Degrees. I have a feeling we might get something along the lines of Trail of Tears... or i wouldnt even mind a suite like A Mind Beside Itself. (i consider Erotomania/Voices/Silent Man to be more of the "epic" on Awake)
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2010, 06:48:03 PM »
I'd give my left leg for a one-track album. (Something that would beat up the Whirlwind and steal it's wallet.)

I seriously doubt DT would consider this though. meh. I'll look forward to a ~10 mini-epic.
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2010, 07:48:31 PM »
Quote from: BrotherH on October 25, 2010, 05:57:29 PM
Quote from: darkshade on October 25, 2010, 05:54:28 PM
Quote from: Nic35 on October 25, 2010, 04:01:56 PM
An album like Awake. Short heavy song, with a song as good as their best one, Scarred.

surely, you cant be serious?  :facepalm:

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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2010, 07:55:48 PM »
10-15 min. Is reasonable. Thats the only thing that bugged me about BC&SL only 6 songs. It would be nice to get something like FII track length wise. More songs to play in a set
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2010, 08:13:29 PM »
I would like something like SDOIT.  I whole side of originals and then another with an entire 40 plus minute epic piece. :metal :metal :metal
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2010, 09:08:35 PM »
Quote from: DeanTheater on October 25, 2010, 08:13:29 PM
I would like something like SDOIT.  I whole side of originals and then another with an entire 40 plus minute epic piece. :metal :metal :metal

I Just don't like the whole 8 stand alone tracks that can be played and treated as separate tracks being put together as one long "song". it was just too much for me. now give me a 40min plus epic, even if its divided into like 3 or 4 tracks, but they are still the same "song"... that would be perfect


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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2010, 09:52:19 PM »
I would like a 22-25 minute epic that features face melting guitar solos and mind boggling odd time signatures. I would also like it to be one song, I don't like it how they split it into parts especially when the transitions make it feel like it could be a new song. It needs to flow, for example, A Change of Seasons. ;D
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #25 on: October 26, 2010, 12:13:53 AM »
Quote from: BrotherH on October 25, 2010, 05:57:29 PM
Quote from: darkshade on October 25, 2010, 05:54:28 PM
Quote from: Nic35 on October 25, 2010, 04:01:56 PM
An album like Awake. Short heavy song, with a song as good as their best one, Scarred.

surely, you cant be serious?  :facepalm:

He IS serious.  And don't call--never mind, doesn't work when it's typed.  Damn.


:rollin

anyway, i like all of DT's epics, so whatever they feel is good, ill probably be good with too.

i agree with whoever said there should be a bunch of shorter songs and one big epic, and maybe a mini epic
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #26 on: October 26, 2010, 12:21:03 AM »
Like around 10 minutes. and I want that to be the longest song on the album.
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #27 on: October 26, 2010, 12:26:06 AM »
Significantly shorter than 20 minutes.
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2010, 12:56:59 AM »
Quote from: darkshade on October 26, 2010, 12:13:53 AM
Quote from: BrotherH on October 25, 2010, 05:57:29 PM
Quote from: darkshade on October 25, 2010, 05:54:28 PM
Quote from: Nic35 on October 25, 2010, 04:01:56 PM
An album like Awake. Short heavy song, with a song as good as their best one, Scarred.

surely, you cant be serious?  :facepalm:

He IS serious.  And don't call--never mind, doesn't work when it's typed.  Damn.


:rollin

anyway, i like all of DT's epics, so whatever they feel is good, ill probably be good with too.

i agree with whoever said there should be a bunch of shorter songs and one big epic, and maybe a mini epic

I said that.   :biggrin:
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2010, 12:59:41 AM »
Something like 14-15 minutes would be enough.
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« Reply #30 on: October 26, 2010, 01:39:47 AM »
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #31 on: October 26, 2010, 02:12:18 AM »
Quote from: ? on October 26, 2010, 12:59:41 AM
Something like 14-15 minutes would be enough.

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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #32 on: October 26, 2010, 04:42:00 AM »
73 minutes.
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #33 on: October 26, 2010, 04:59:45 AM »
Quote from: wolfking on October 26, 2010, 04:42:00 AM
73 minutes.
Not 74?  Or do you not want it to be longer than The Whirlwind?
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Re: how long would you like dts next epic to be?
« Reply #34 on: October 26, 2010, 05:02:37 AM »
Quote from: kingshmegland on October 25, 2010, 03:58:42 PM
It's not the length but how you use it.
this, but as a listener, I'd rather listen to a song about 12-15mins
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