9/11 Official Story: True or False?

[SovereignDream]

Personally, I believe that 9/11 was clearly perpetrated by the US for interests within the government. I arrived at this conclusion upon a personal investigation of the fall of WTC7, blatant and illogical inconsistencies in the official report, known (potential) US government / individual interests, the fall of WTC 1 & 2, BS government coverups, and... many, many convincing Youtube vids  

Lemme know what you think...

[EPICVIEW]

I think you are wrong...

actually..I know you are wrong

[orcus116]

The only thing missing from the OP is sarcasm green.

[Seventh Son]

The only thing missing from the OP is sarcasm green.

At least..... I hope that's what the OP was missing.








 

[sirbradford117]

[EPICVIEW]

Fricken Ninjas ....everywhere...

[Adami]

Fricken Ninjas ....everywhere...

You're going to have to change your name. His views so far seem much more epic.

[EPICVIEW]

Fricken Ninjas ....everywhere...

You're going to have to change your name. His views so far seem much more epic.

LOL.... Ninja'd again!! good one Adami!

[SovereignDream]

I think you are wrong...

actually..I know you are wrong

Pray tell why

[orcus116]

You started this thread, you tell us why you think you're right.

[Sigz]

Let me guess: one of the 'blatant and illogical inconsistencies' is that jet fuel doesn't burn hot enough to melt steel.

[bosk1]

You started this thread, you tell us why you think you're right.

This.  As thread starter, the burden is really on you to support your position, SovereignDream.  You really haven't given anything for people to challenge other than your subjective and unsupported opinion.

[SovereignDream]

I don't have the luxury of time to write out a 10 page essay on why I think 9/11 was perpetrated by the US (nor the desire) but it really comes down to this:

I find it extremely unlikely that a bunch of Islamic extremists boarded a plane, were able to successfully evade NORAD, brought down 2 buildings that were even designed to potentially withstand an airplane collision, brought down another building WITHOUT ever even crashing a plane into it, and set off a coincidental chain of events that would result in the profiteering of companies high-ranking government officials had major stakes in and guaranteed the re-election of the degenerate ape we all know as George "W" Bush.

[Adami]

You do realize that Islamic extremists have hijacked planes before, right? It just wasn't in america.

[AcidLameLTE]

Sorry but I kind of lost my interest (and my will to live) when I read "many, many convincing Youtube vids".

[orcus116]

There's a really good explanation as to why WTC7 fell down but I can't seem to put my finger on it... What was it again? Hmmm....oh yeah, thousands of tons of steel and concrete collapsed right next to it. You realize how ridiculous it would've been if that building hadn't gotten damaged?

[Adami]

This is a really good thread. Hey, I got an idea, you should start another thread about whether or not we feel Bush went to Iraq for the oil.

[AcidLameLTE]

There's a good debunking of usual conspiracy theories about 9/11 here:

https://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

[Adami]

There's a good debunking of usual conspiracy theories about 9/11 here:

https://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

I see a .gov. That means everything in there is a lie.

[SovereignDream]

There's a really good explanation as to why WTC7 fell down but I can't seem to put my finger on it... What was it again? Hmmm....oh yeah, thousands of tons of steel and concrete collapsed right next to it. You realize how ridiculous it would've been if that building hadn't gotten damaged?

So...uneven structural damage to WTC7 will result in...a near perfectly level collapse of the building?  

If anything, I would expect side of the 7 with the most damage to fall first or at least lead to an uneven fall...

[AcidLameLTE]

There's a good debunking of usual conspiracy theories about 9/11 here:

https://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

I see a .gov. That means everything in there is a lie.

Good point.

[EPICVIEW]

I don't have the luxury of time to write out a 10 page essay on why I think 9/11 was perpetrated by the US (nor the desire) but it really comes down to this:

I find it extremely unlikely that a bunch of Islamic extremists boarded a plane, were able to successfully evade NORAD, brought down 2 buildings that were even designed to potentially withstand an airplane collision, brought down another building WITHOUT ever even crashing a plane into it, and set off a coincidental chain of events that would result in the profiteering of companies high-ranking government officials had major stakes in and guaranteed the re-election of the degenerate ape we all know as George "W" Bush.

Youre not serious ? ...tell me you're not... what about WTC1? and the blind shiek? that was Clinton

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

I think Al Qaeda had most everything to do with it, but I really don't think that it's outside the lines to think it wasn't ALL them acting autonomously.

[EPICVIEW]

There's a really good explanation as to why WTC7 fell down but I can't seem to put my finger on it... What was it again? Hmmm....oh yeah, thousands of tons of steel and concrete collapsed right next to it. You realize how ridiculous it would've been if that building hadn't gotten damaged?

So...uneven structural damage to WTC7 will result in...a near perfectly level collapse of the building?  

If anything, I would expect side of the 7 with the most damage to fall first or at least lead to an uneven fall...

are you an engineer? because at terminal faliure, the building by code are deisgned to fall excatly like they did..

[GuineaPig]

There's a really good explanation as to why WTC7 fell down but I can't seem to put my finger on it... What was it again? Hmmm....oh yeah, thousands of tons of steel and concrete collapsed right next to it. You realize how ridiculous it would've been if that building hadn't gotten damaged?

So...uneven structural damage to WTC7 will result in...a near perfectly level collapse of the building?  

If anything, I would expect side of the 7 with the most damage to fall first or at least lead to an uneven fall...

Do you even have remote knowledge of how buildings are constructed?

[EPICVIEW]

I don't have the luxury of time to write out a 10 page essay on why I think 9/11 was perpetrated by the US (nor the desire) but it really comes down to this:

I find it extremely unlikely that a bunch of Islamic extremists boarded a plane, were able to successfully evade NORAD, brought down 2 buildings that were even designed to potentially withstand an airplane collision, brought down another building WITHOUT ever even crashing a plane into it, and set off a coincidental chain of events that would result in the profiteering of companies high-ranking government officials had major stakes in and guaranteed the re-election of the degenerate ape we all know as George "W" Bush.

why is GWB so horrible?.. and do you work for Loose Change or Alex Jones..

[orcus116]

There's a really good explanation as to why WTC7 fell down but I can't seem to put my finger on it... What was it again? Hmmm....oh yeah, thousands of tons of steel and concrete collapsed right next to it. You realize how ridiculous it would've been if that building hadn't gotten damaged?

So...uneven structural damage to WTC7 will result in...a near perfectly level collapse of the building?  

If anything, I would expect side of the 7 with the most damage to fall first or at least lead to an uneven fall...

We discussed this in one of my structural analysis classes. The way a building system like that works is that when a joint/beam/girder fails the whole system fails very rapidly because of the redistribution of loads. The joint that did end up failing was one that held up a larger section of the building than many of the other joints so the redistribution of the loads that joint was carrying was massive.

[Sigz]

Orcus, you're just part of the conspiracy. Don't try to hide it.

[orcus116]

Hey I wired those explosives damn well, thankyouverymuch.

[El Barto]

A fairly intelligent friend of mine is a firm believer in this and we've had numerous discussions about it, so I tend to be much less dismissive of the conspiracy theory than most.  However, as I've told him numerous times, NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE INCOMPETENCE OF OTHERS!  I agree that there are numerous things that throw up flags, but none of them link up enough to outweigh the official explanation.  

[SovereignDream]

I don't have the luxury of time to write out a 10 page essay on why I think 9/11 was perpetrated by the US (nor the desire) but it really comes down to this:

I find it extremely unlikely that a bunch of Islamic extremists boarded a plane, were able to successfully evade NORAD, brought down 2 buildings that were even designed to potentially withstand an airplane collision, brought down another building WITHOUT ever even crashing a plane into it, and set off a coincidental chain of events that would result in the profiteering of companies high-ranking government officials had major stakes in and guaranteed the re-election of the degenerate ape we all know as George "W" Bush.

why is GWB so horrible?.. and do you work for Loose Change or Alex Jones..

Why is George Bush so horrible? Hmm...: potential involvement in 9/11, Overall retard, supporter and instigator of the bombing of many civilian cities in the ME because they were harboring "bad guys" or WMD's, cause of the recession we are in today *cough Obama haters who still believe he is Muslim cough*, "where wings take dream!"

And what is Loose Change & Alex Jones?

[lateralus88]

and... many, many convincing Youtube vids  

You do realize that Zeitgeist was filled to the brim with fallacies, right?

[GuineaPig]

I don't have the luxury of time to write out a 10 page essay on why I think 9/11 was perpetrated by the US (nor the desire) but it really comes down to this:

I find it extremely unlikely that a bunch of Islamic extremists boarded a plane, were able to successfully evade NORAD, brought down 2 buildings that were even designed to potentially withstand an airplane collision, brought down another building WITHOUT ever even crashing a plane into it, and set off a coincidental chain of events that would result in the profiteering of companies high-ranking government officials had major stakes in and guaranteed the re-election of the degenerate ape we all know as George "W" Bush.

why is GWB so horrible?.. and do you work for Loose Change or Alex Jones..

And what is Loose Change & Alex Jones?

Oh, don't give me this bullshit.

[EPICVIEW]

again..its is impossible... trust me no one could have access to the WTC to ever do what the dellusional want to believe...I repeat it is IMPOSSIBLE to get access to the building..to ever bring anything into the bulding.. especially post WTC1 attack....I know this FOR FACT... Im very familiiar with the building and how it operates , the Unions ,and how hard it is to even make a delivery there and how the loading docks work etc..THIS IS NYC... nothing is easy

aint no way it could happen... feasiblity is ZERO


the Loose Change crowd are so bent on egenda that they are Moot...

[El Barto]

The bigger difficulty would be keeping it a secret for 9 years. 

Though I will say, I do like his assessment of Dumbass, and miss Disappear as well.