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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1645 on: July 14, 2021, 06:39:14 AM »
I always really enjoyed Andi singing Future World.

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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1646 on: July 15, 2021, 12:34:34 PM »
New album is pretty good.  Never was much of a fan of these guys, but I'm enjoying it.

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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1647 on: July 17, 2021, 05:37:12 PM »
I guessing this might not be news for most but i'm really really diggin Grosskopf bass work on this release, there's lots of cool melodic lines here and there and also I just find the bassmix to be perfect atleast with headphones. You hear the bass so clearly but still not overpowering the overall mix. I'm not sure if that's common for the bass in Helloween?

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Out for the glory 1:04-1:12
Fear of the fallen 2:09-2:15
Mass Pollution: 0:10-0:20
Angels: 2:25-2:30 and 4:15-4:20
Rise without chains: 0:36-0:49, 1:46-1:59 and 3:54-3:56
Skyfall: 2:16-2:20

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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1648 on: July 17, 2021, 05:39:45 PM »
Markus
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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1650 on: July 17, 2021, 07:17:53 PM »
Markus is the bass player.
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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1651 on: July 18, 2021, 01:08:51 AM »
 :facepalm: Holy brainfart!

I was like yea I know his name is Markus Weikath...

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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1652 on: July 18, 2021, 03:11:55 PM »
Really nice cover of Eagle Fly Free. Michael Gilbert and Ken Mary from Flotsam & Jetsam are part of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJs-W-GOqzE
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« Reply #1653 on: July 20, 2021, 09:02:21 AM »
Iím actually kinda glad Kai didnít write more because that mightíve resulted in him having bigger vocal parts, and Iím not a big fan of his voice.

Angels IMO is the worst song on the album. Sascha is really hit or miss on the last few albums. His best songs were on Gambling, Rabbits, And Keepers Legacy. Nowadays he seems to be experimenting a lot, which isnít a bad thing, but itís just not resulting in good songs.

The best songs on the new album come from Weiki.

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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1654 on: July 25, 2021, 06:53:39 AM »
Random thought: Nabatea would slay with some vocals from Kiske. He can take the verses and the high chorus, Deris can do the harsher bits and the middle section.
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« Reply #1655 on: July 25, 2021, 07:59:25 AM »
Random thought: Nabatea would slay with some vocals from Kiske. He can take the verses and the high chorus, Deris can do the harsher bits and the middle section.

Thereís a lot of songs Iíd like to hear Kiske sing. As much as I prefer Derisí voice, Weiki and co have definitely written songs that would be perfect for Kiske and would fit perfectly on a keepers record. Imagine Helloween recording Falling Higher or Salvation back in Ď88 with Kiske and putting it on Keepers.
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« Reply #1656 on: July 25, 2021, 02:41:17 PM »
Iím actually kinda glad Kai didnít write more because that mightíve resulted in him having bigger vocal parts, and Iím not a big fan of his voice.

Angels IMO is the worst song on the album. Sascha is really hit or miss on the last few albums. His best songs were on Gambling, Rabbits, And Keepers Legacy. Nowadays he seems to be experimenting a lot, which isnít a bad thing, but itís just not resulting in good songs.

The best songs on the new album come from Weiki.

I agree and I don't think I'd say that about any Deris era album.

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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1657 on: August 08, 2021, 08:41:26 PM »
Golden Times is a pretty great song and I think the first vocal melody ("In my dreams The world would be") sounds great but I hate how every time itís repeated (the vocal melody not the lyrics) it sounds kinda out of tune or something. Basically it only sounds great one time and I think that sucks. Just a random observation.

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« Reply #1658 on: August 08, 2021, 08:43:35 PM »
Golden Times is a pretty great song and I think the first vocal melody ("In my dreams The world would be") sounds great but I hate how every time itís repeated (the vocal melody not the lyrics) it sounds kinda out of tune or something. Basically it only sounds great one time and I think that sucks. Just a random observation.

Hmmm...can't say I've noticed.

That's still by far my fav song on the whole thing.

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« Reply #1659 on: August 08, 2021, 08:47:20 PM »
Out of tune is probably not the right way to describe it, it just sounds slightly off to me.

Anyway I do think the song should have been on the album instead of Cyanide or Indestructible.
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« Reply #1660 on: August 22, 2021, 09:45:18 AM »
Out of tune is probably not the right way to describe it, it just sounds slightly off to me.

Anyway I do think the song should have been on the album instead of Cyanide or Indestructible.
Hmm interesting observation, I think I know what you mean. Can't say it's out of tune but the notes on the words Be and Dreams sounds a bit cleaner the first time and the second time it kinda collides with the harmony or something. Kinda sounds like it's not the same notes as the first time but i'm not sure. Was that it?

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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1661 on: October 18, 2021, 07:40:18 PM »
So I may have linked The Charismatic Voice reaction video to Keeper Of The Seven keys a few months ago. Not checking, but here's the link..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j202wF41ZgY

This is the same lady who did the most recent JLB interview posted on the DT Side.

Well, she just released a reaction to Halloween. It's really awesome!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqVZHDQb-T8
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« Reply #1662 on: October 19, 2021, 12:27:15 AM »
I'm subscribed to the Charismatic Voice!

Her "reaction" videos are cut above the rest! I love how she is able to analyze the song and the singer.

I'm still listening to the self titled album a lot! Could be a contender for my album of the year.

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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1663 on: October 20, 2021, 08:12:25 PM »
I'm still listening to the self titled album a lot! Could be a contender for my album of the year.

I've spent a lot of time over the last month listening to the new Maiden and DT. I have actually spun the Helloween a couple of times in the past week, and I still love it.
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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1664 on: February 01, 2022, 04:12:28 AM »
https://youtu.be/UtwyV0j76Ic

Cool video of Weiki talking about Robot King.

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« Reply #1665 on: February 01, 2022, 01:44:08 PM »
https://youtu.be/UtwyV0j76Ic

Cool video of Weiki talking about Robot King.

...and this man leads one of the most influential metal bands of all time. :lol
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« Reply #1666 on: February 01, 2022, 01:54:45 PM »
https://youtu.be/UtwyV0j76Ic

Cool video of Weiki talking about Robot King.

...and this man leads one of the most influential metal bands of all time. :lol

Yeah haha.  He certainly seems like an interesting character.

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« Reply #1667 on: February 02, 2022, 02:11:26 AM »
Weiki fascinates me.

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« Reply #1668 on: February 03, 2022, 12:38:42 AM »
Weiki is the boss!  :lol

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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1669 on: April 30, 2022, 07:40:03 PM »
So, Helloween finally begins their tour this week..

Wed May 4  Manchester
Thurs May 5   London

And then 6+weeks later in Europe. Can't wait to see the setlist. When the album was released, I watched a ton of interviews, and I got the feeling they were going to dust off Twilight Of The Gods.


Any of our English DTFers going?
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« Reply #1670 on: April 30, 2022, 08:07:36 PM »
They have so much stuff they could play it always feels songs and opportunities are left out, but it can't be helped..  Will be interesting what they choose.  Need more deep cuts from BTR/TDR/Rabbit.

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« Reply #1671 on: April 30, 2022, 08:10:03 PM »
They have so much stuff they could play it always feels songs and opportunities are left out, but it can't be helped..  Will be interesting what they choose.  Need more deep cuts from BTR/TDR/Rabbit.

I would love a version of The King Of 1000 Years with Kiske on it, or even Occasion Avenue.

They have Hammerfall opening, so their shows won't be anywhere near the length of the Pumpkins United show. When I saw them...it was just them.
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« Reply #1672 on: April 30, 2022, 08:11:12 PM »
They have so much stuff they could play it always feels songs and opportunities are left out, but it can't be helped..  Will be interesting what they choose.  Need more deep cuts from BTR/TDR/Rabbit.

I would love a version of The King Of 1000 Years with Kiske on it, or even Occasion Avenue.

They have Hammerfall opening, so their shows won't be anywhere near the length of the Pumpkins United show. When I saw them...it was just them.

Great opening band though, that's a great bill.  Yeah, decent call on those two epics though,  They've done the old ones and these two have always held up to them IMO.

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« Reply #1673 on: April 30, 2022, 08:12:45 PM »
I'd lose my shit if they opened with King Of 1000 Years.
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« Reply #1674 on: April 30, 2022, 08:22:40 PM »
I'd lose my shit if they opened with King Of 1000 Years.

It's a fucking great idea actually.

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« Reply #1675 on: May 01, 2022, 03:21:46 AM »
I'd lose my shit if they opened with King Of 1000 Years.

It's a fucking great idea actually.

Well, that was the norm for the Legacy tour back in 2005.

And yes, that's one of the songs that should be played, character wise the entire lyrics are from the point of view of the devil so it would feel weird to swap singers, but hey, Kiske would slay that chorus!!!
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« Reply #1676 on: May 01, 2022, 03:27:46 AM »
I'd lose my shit if they opened with King Of 1000 Years.

It's a fucking great idea actually.

Well, that was the norm for the Legacy tour back in 2005.

And yes, that's one of the songs that should be played, character wise the entire lyrics are from the point of view of the devil so it would feel weird to swap singers, but hey, Kiske would slay that chorus!!!

That's a great DVD.

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« Reply #1677 on: May 01, 2022, 07:46:36 PM »
That is a great DVD. The band looks like they're having so much fun.


I can't believe you can still buy tickets to this week's shows.
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« Reply #1678 on: May 03, 2022, 01:19:02 AM »
I'm going to make a bold prediction, and say that "Open Your Life" will be played live in the coming tour! Sascha has been featuring that song a lot in his Instagram stories! :tup

Some other deep cuts, I would like them to dust of include:
King for a 1000 Years (Obviously)
Midnight Sun
A Handful of Pain
Twilight of the Gods
Invisible Man
The Departed (Sun is Going Down)

Can't believe the Finland show is still a year away! It was supposed to be in spring 2020, if I remember correctly.

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« Reply #1679 on: May 03, 2022, 03:22:11 AM »
I got to hear A Handful of Pain live  :metal
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