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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1960 on: August 13, 2023, 07:31:32 PM »
Forgot Solid.  That's a legit Rapid Fire rip off.

Yes. I can't believe Tipton and Downing don't have writing credits on that. :lol
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« Reply #1961 on: August 13, 2023, 07:37:39 PM »
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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1962 on: August 14, 2023, 01:19:53 AM »
Just thinking about Kai's love for his influences, there's quite a few;

Heading for Tomorrow - Victim of Changes (main riff)
Hand of Fate - Dissident Aggressor (verse)
Heart of the Unicorn - Painkiller (verse vocal melody)
Opportunity - The Clairvoyant (middle section)
Empress - Princess of the Dawn (all of it)
Insurrection - Exciter (melody during solo section)
To the Metal - Metal Gods (the whole fucking thing)
I think Real World it is he rips of the Sentinel in the middle.....

In New World Order (the song), you can literally sing "Hell bent, Hell bent for leather" over the chorus.
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« Reply #1963 on: August 14, 2023, 04:19:46 AM »
Just thinking about Kai's love for his influences, there's quite a few;

Heading for Tomorrow - Victim of Changes (main riff)
Hand of Fate - Dissident Aggressor (verse)
Heart of the Unicorn - Painkiller (verse vocal melody)
Opportunity - The Clairvoyant (middle section)
Empress - Princess of the Dawn (all of it)
Insurrection - Exciter (melody during solo section)
To the Metal - Metal Gods (the whole fucking thing)
I think Real World it is he rips of the Sentinel in the middle.....

In New World Order (the song), you can literally sing "Hell bent, Hell bent for leather" over the chorus.

Wow!  Never heard this one but I can hear it just running it through my head!  :lol  Nice one!
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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1964 on: August 14, 2023, 08:48:37 AM »
I always thought the bridge of Rain was close to A Million to One by Helloween.

Hey were back to Helloween.

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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1965 on: August 14, 2023, 08:56:02 AM »
How about My temple going from ...and justice for all to Sabbath bloody Sabbath within minutes?

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« Reply #1966 on: August 14, 2023, 01:27:52 PM »
How about My temple going from ...and justice for all to Sabbath bloody Sabbath within minutes?

Oh shit yeah.  Another one I forgot.  That Sabbath Bloody Sabbath riff or so damn blatant!
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« Reply #1967 on: August 14, 2023, 01:30:44 PM »
Oh speaking of the Majestic album, Hell is Thy Home, or should I say Leather Rebel?  :lol
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« Reply #1968 on: August 14, 2023, 03:12:12 PM »
I'm also getting strong Painkiller vibes in Spiritual dictator. Also, Follow me reminds me of Hunting high and low. We could go on forever.  :lol


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« Reply #1969 on: August 14, 2023, 03:40:07 PM »
I always loved picking up on all of Kais little nuggets.  It's funny how more and more crept in as he got later and later into his career.

Although I think the last album sounded quite original from memory, but I'd have to listen to it again.

The Queen Flash Gordon thing he does in songs like Man on A Midsion and Armageddon is pretty funny too.
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« Reply #1970 on: August 15, 2023, 09:42:41 PM »
I have Empire of the Undead in the car today.  This is a pretty good album actually.  A shame Gamma Ray is pretty much done but I hope we do see another studio album at some point.

Anyway going with the theme of the last few posts, even though it's written by Dirk, the Queen nod in Time for Deliverance is out of this world!   Makes Kai look like a novice.  :lol
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« Reply #1971 on: August 16, 2023, 12:32:43 AM »
Dirk at it again in the middle of Demonseed.  Blatant Victim of Changes rip.
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« Reply #1972 on: August 17, 2023, 08:34:36 AM »
I'm really curious how the success of Helloween's last album will impact the next one. I am guessing the band has a lot of songs written at this point. I remember reading on here (someone posted something a while back) that Kai has a bunch more tunes written than he did for the last one. "Skyfall" was the gem of the record and was Kai's if I remember right (I like the album now, but still feel Kai is needed, writing-wise in a big way).
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« Reply #1973 on: August 17, 2023, 08:57:12 AM »
Indeed Skyfall is the one and only contribution from Kai on the album.

I still like it overall, but without the Hansen epic, it would have been just another modern day Deris era album. I mean, there's nothing here that feels 100% thought with Kiske's voice in mind (maybe Out for the Glory) and you could take away Hansen (basically just no Skyfall) and Kiske's voice, and the album would have still been mostly the same. Still better than My God Given Right, but I hope the next album will benefit more of the chemistry between old and new members.
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« Reply #1974 on: August 17, 2023, 09:13:48 AM »
Indeed Skyfall is the one and only contribution from Kai on the album.

I still like it overall, but without the Hansen epic, it would have been just another modern day Deris era album. I mean, there's nothing here that feels 100% thought with Kiske's voice in mind (maybe Out for the Glory) and you could take away Hansen (basically just no Skyfall) and Kiske's voice, and the album would have still been mostly the same. Still better than My God Given Right, but I hope the next album will benefit more of the chemistry between old and new members.

Yeah, I thought so. And agree with your description of the album. Totally. Thank goodness we got the epic. I expect big things from the next album.
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« Reply #1975 on: August 17, 2023, 12:43:28 PM »
I'm really curious how the success of Helloween's last album will impact the next one. I am guessing the band has a lot of songs written at this point. I remember reading on here (someone posted something a while back) that Kai has a bunch more tunes written than he did for the last one. "Skyfall" was the gem of the record and was Kai's if I remember right (I like the album now, but still feel Kai is needed, writing-wise in a big way).

The band did a bunch of interviews before the US tour, and I remember Kiske said that. He said Kai will definitely be contributing more, which is a good thing. I agree that the album could've used more Kai.
I mean, we can all do a song ranking and eliminate the bottom couple.

Michael Weikath's tunes, Out For Glory, Robot Man, and Down In The Dumps are three songs I love, stupid lyrics notwithstanding.
Andi's are Fear Of the Fallen, which is great, Mass Pollution, which I didn't care for but was excellent live, and Cyanide, which to me is the weakest song.
Markus' Indestructible is certainly replaceable.
Sasha had Best Times, which the band thought well enough to bring to the live show, and Angels, which to me is actually the most interesting song on the album.

The thing is, when they convened for the album, they all brought a handful of songs that they had each written, except for Dani and Kiske, who wrote nothing, and Kai, who came in with one song..the best one!

Kiske said, they already have ideas and the fact that they've played even more together as a band should help. I do expect the next album to be better, but seriously, I love this last album.
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« Reply #1976 on: August 17, 2023, 12:46:00 PM »
Yeah, musically, I dig Weikath's songs.
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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1977 on: September 23, 2023, 07:09:15 PM »
Really cool video from Dani on the Japanese tour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEsNcDBdk-o

The only date left on Helloween's touring itinerary is the Hell & Heaven fest in Mexico in November.
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« Reply #1978 on: September 25, 2023, 08:19:14 AM »
Really cool video from Dani on the Japanese tour.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEsNcDBdk-o

The only date left on Helloween's touring itinerary is the Hell & Heaven fest in Mexico in November.

Watched the first five minutes or so. Cool. Thanks for sharing.
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« Reply #1979 on: October 21, 2023, 07:54:38 AM »
Nice cover of Eagle Fly Free:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icoIkq1jBGw

Erik Gronwall (H.E.A.T and currently in Skid Row) on vocals is excellent. I mean, the whole thing is very faithful to the original, but there's a nifty little bonus of father & son Hansen doing the solos  :)

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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1980 on: October 21, 2023, 07:56:18 AM »
Nice cover of Eagle Fly Free:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icoIkq1jBGw

Erik Gronwall (H.E.A.T and currently in Skid Row) on vocals is excellent. I mean, the whole thing is very faithful to the original, but there's a nifty little bonus of father & son Hansen doing the solos  :)

I saw that yesterday, but I couldn't bring myself to open the link. :lol
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« Reply #1981 on: October 21, 2023, 08:06:23 AM »
Nice cover of Eagle Fly Free:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icoIkq1jBGw

Erik Gronwall (H.E.A.T and currently in Skid Row) on vocals is excellent. I mean, the whole thing is very faithful to the original, but there's a nifty little bonus of father & son Hansen doing the solos  :)

I saw that yesterday, but I couldn't bring myself to open the link. :lol

Why not?  :biggrin: All in all, it's pretty good, nothing too offensive  ;)

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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1982 on: October 21, 2023, 08:09:00 AM »
Nice cover of Eagle Fly Free:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icoIkq1jBGw

Erik Gronwall (H.E.A.T and currently in Skid Row) on vocals is excellent. I mean, the whole thing is very faithful to the original, but there's a nifty little bonus of father & son Hansen doing the solos  :)

I saw that yesterday, but I couldn't bring myself to open the link. :lol

Why not?  :biggrin: All in all, it's pretty good, nothing too offensive  ;)

I don't know. I have a mental block sometimes when it comes to these things. :lol
I give it a shot, but I just started my roulette listening. Might have to come back to it.
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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1983 on: October 21, 2023, 05:47:20 PM »
Nice cover of Eagle Fly Free:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icoIkq1jBGw

Erik Gronwall (H.E.A.T and currently in Skid Row) on vocals is excellent. I mean, the whole thing is very faithful to the original, but there's a nifty little bonus of father & son Hansen doing the solos  :)



OK, I got on this. Yes, it's outstanding. That dude has some pipes, and his grittier, if not nasally in some parts, gives the vocal a completely different vibe, but he still crushes it.

To me, it's almost the perfect song. Bass solo and a drum solo?  :metal

Tommy Johansson did a great version of it a few months back too.
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« Reply #1984 on: October 23, 2023, 08:21:35 AM »
Yeah, Erik does a fine job.  :metal
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« Reply #1985 on: October 25, 2023, 04:06:32 AM »
Erik was the only guy for me when it comes to HEAT. The other guy is shit.
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« Reply #1986 on: February 15, 2024, 11:58:43 AM »
Update from Helloween camp:

https://blabbermouth.net/news/helloween-to-release-new-studio-album-in-2025

They have a new record deal with a label I've never even heard of. :lol They plan to enter studio in the summer, and the new album is now tentatively slated for 2025 instead of 2024.

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« Reply #1987 on: February 15, 2024, 12:41:19 PM »
Yeah, the label was like...who?! LOL. Oh well, as long as we get a record.

That tour was a concert highlight for the ages.
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« Reply #1988 on: February 15, 2024, 01:25:42 PM »
When I first saw the story this morning, my first thought was YES A NEW ALBUM!!!!

But then I read it more carefully.



At least they're committed to another one at least.
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« Reply #1989 on: February 15, 2024, 01:46:59 PM »
When I first saw the story this morning, my first thought was YES A NEW ALBUM!!!!

But then I read it more carefully.



At least they're committed to another one at least.

Why wouldn't they? I just read the whole article and it all sounded pretty positive and forward-thinking to me.
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« Reply #1990 on: February 15, 2024, 01:49:04 PM »
When I first saw the story this morning, my first thought was YES A NEW ALBUM!!!!

But then I read it more carefully.



At least they're committed to another one at least.

Why wouldn't they? I just read the whole article and it all sounded pretty positive and forward-thinking to me.

It's a me thing. I'm way too impatient for this, and I'm just happy for the positive reinforcement.
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« Reply #1991 on: February 15, 2024, 01:58:47 PM »
When I first saw the story this morning, my first thought was YES A NEW ALBUM!!!!

But then I read it more carefully.



At least they're committed to another one at least.

Why wouldn't they? I just read the whole article and it all sounded pretty positive and forward-thinking to me.

It's a me thing. I'm way too impatient for this, and I'm just happy for the positive reinforcement.

Aha, ok  :)
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« Reply #1992 on: February 15, 2024, 04:04:04 PM »
When I first saw the story this morning, my first thought was YES A NEW ALBUM!!!!

But then I read it more carefully.



At least they're committed to another one at least.

Why wouldn't they? I just read the whole article and it all sounded pretty positive and forward-thinking to me.

I too wondered if the lineup was going to produce another album.  I guess the whole hype and novelty around it made you wonder if it actually was a long term kind of setup.  They're taking their time which is fine I guess so they can do other things, but yeah potentially another year and a half away is a slog.
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« Reply #1993 on: February 22, 2024, 05:25:51 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLV530n3kMw

Does anyone else think this song should have been the theme for the Bond movie instead of Adele?
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« Reply #1994 on: February 22, 2024, 06:37:52 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLV530n3kMw

Does anyone else think this song should have been the theme for the Bond movie instead of Adele?

Great tune!

Are you a Helloween fan, HoSo?
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