Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United

[wolfking]

I'm going to make a bold prediction, and say that "Open Your Life" will be played live in the coming tour! Sascha has been featuring that song a lot in his Instagram stories!

Some other deep cuts, I would like them to dust of include:
King for a 1000 Years (Obviously)
Midnight Sun
A Handful of Pain
Twilight of the Gods
Invisible Man
The Departed (Sun is Going Down)

Can't believe the Finland show is still a year away! It was supposed to be in spring 2020, if I remember correctly.

Open Your Life and A Handful of Pain would be incredible.

[TAC]

I'm going to make a bold prediction, and say that "Open Your Life" will be played live in the coming tour! Sascha has been featuring that song a lot in his Instagram stories!

I pulled up his instagram, but I couldn't find any reference. Can you post a link? Not because I don't believe you, I'm interested in seeing it.

[MirrorMask]

I'm going to make a bold prediction, and say that "Open Your Life" will be played live in the coming tour! Sascha has been featuring that song a lot in his Instagram stories!

I pulled up his instagram, but I couldn't find any reference. Can you post a link? Not because I don't believe you, I'm interested in seeing it.

If it's been posted in the stories, they go away after 24 hours....

[TAC]

Oh..


Anything else I've missed in regards to the upcoming shows?

[Polarbear]

I'm going to make a bold prediction, and say that "Open Your Life" will be played live in the coming tour! Sascha has been featuring that song a lot in his Instagram stories!

I pulled up his instagram, but I couldn't find any reference. Can you post a link? Not because I don't believe you, I'm interested in seeing it.

If it's been posted in the stories, they go away after 24 hours....

Yeah, it was posted in the stories, so they are not readable anymore. I remember him posting stories about his new signature guitars, and quite a few of them featured "Open Your Life".

This could be a total shot in the dark, and mean nothing. We'll see when the information about the setlist goes to Setlist.fm. First show is supposed to be today!

[TAC]

Yes tonight!

I wonder if there are any active Helloween forums where the songs might be updated to by someone at the show.

[TAC]

So, there's a setlist up on Setlist FM, which is weird because it's only 9pm in Manchester right now.
It is stated as a "stage setlist"..so maybe someone has seen it.

Skyfall
Eagle Fly Free
Mass Polution
Future World
Save Us
Where The Rain Grows
(unknown)-Kai Medley
Forever And One
Straight Out Of Hell
First Time
How Many Tears

Encore:
A Tale The Wasn't Right
Power
Keeper Of The Seven Keys

Encore 2:
I Want Out




What do you think? Is it bullshit?

Two shocks..
No Best Time, considering it's the thingy being released in a couple of weeks, and First Time? No way they play anything from Chameleon.

I wonder if someone mistook Best Time for First Time. That seems way more plausable.

[wolfking]

I could do without Forever and One again.  Mass Pollution isn't the greatest track from the new album to highlight.  Where the Rain Grows and Straight Out of Hell are a couple of couple deep cuts.  Save Us though is a great pick.

[TAC]

I'm going to keep refreshing it. The Kai medley has been updated to be:
Metal Invaders / Victim of Fate / Gorgar / Ride the Sky / Heavy Metal in the Law

I still think it'll be Best Time instead of First Time.

[wolfking]

I'm going to keep refreshing it. The Kai medley has been updated to be:
Metal Invaders / Victim of Fate / Gorgar / Ride the Sky / Heavy Metal in the Law

I still think it'll be Best Time instead of First Time.

   Yeah, no way they are playing First Time........surely.

Gorgar is a fucking cool song, always really liked that one.  And seeing some of VOF come back out is insane.  Would have liked Starlight instead of MI or HMITL however.

[TAC]

Yup, as expected, First Time has been edited to Best Time with Dr. Stein added in after it.

So this seems to be what we have..


Skyfall
Eagle Fly Free
Mass Polution
Future World
Save Us
Where The Rain Grows
Kai Medley: Metal Invaders / Victim of Fate / Gorgar / Ride the Sky
Heavy Metal Is The Law
Forever And One
Straight Out Of Hell
Best Time
Dr. Stein
How Many Tears

Encore:
A Tale The Wasn't Right
Power
Keeper Of The Seven Keys

Encore 2:
I Want Out





Apparently HMITL was played in full..

[TAC]

Would have liked Starlight instead of MI or HMITL however.

The Medley on Pumpkins United was Starlight/Ride The Sky/Judas/HMITL

At least they switched it out.

And the Kai Medley was the best part of the show. Holy shit!

[wolfking]

Would have liked Starlight instead of MI or HMITL however.

The Medley on Pumpkins United was Starlight/Ride The Sky/Judas/HMITL

At least they switched it out.

And the Kai Medley was the best part of the show. Holy shit!

I didn't give a lot of time to Pumpkins United, so completely forgot Starlight was in there.  Fair enough adding Gorgar and VOF then.

[TAC]

I'm just glad they kept that part of the show.

[wolfking]

I'm just glad they kept that part of the show.

Indeed.

Got my hopes up for Open Your Life too so that sucks.

[wolfking]

Found an updated set.  It us Best Time, not First Time.

Apparently How Many Tears has a Skyfall reprise.

[TAC]

Found an updated set.  It us Best Time, not First Time.

Yup!

Yup, as expected, First Time has been edited to Best Time with Dr. Stein added in after it.

So, the three new songs are Skyfall, Mass Pollution and Best Time. Interesting. Only three.

[wolfking]

I think 3 songs is a fine number.  Mass Pollution as I said is strange IMO.

[TAC]

I think 3 songs is a fine number.  Mass Pollution as I said is strange IMO.

You basically had two Deris only tracks, Mass Pollution and Cyanide to choose from. Both are my two least faves on the album.
I really expected Out For The Glory to be played. It would've worked in the spot held by Eagle Fly Free.

[TAC]

Footage!!!

Kai Medley

Future World

Best Time
So happy they gave Sasha a solo section. Fucking nice!

Dr. Stein

A Tale The Wasn't Right


I have to say that Helloween looked like a band that had been off the road for two years. They needed a shot of energy.


Hammerfall
We Make Sweden Rock

I don't consider Hammerfall a great live band but they were UP for this gig.




EDIT:
Skyfall/Eagle Fly Free

[Ben_Jamin]

That Skyfall/Eagle Fly Free video was great.

[Polarbear]

Looks like my "Open Your Life" hunch was wrong.

Oh well, a good setlist regardless. They are playing it a bit safe, although I believe that they are going to rotate some new songs in, that we have not seen yet.

Only 3 songs from the "Self Titled" is a surprise.

Thumbs up for "Save Us" and "Where The Rain Grows".

As soon as I heard "Best Time", I knew it was going to be a live banger!! Can't wait to see some pro shot footage of it.

[Ben_Jamin]

I'm actually excited that they played Save Us. I've been wanting to hear Kiske sing that live, and now it's happened.

[Grappler]

I like that setlist!  Save Us is a great song and I'm glad Best Time and Mass Pollution are being played from the new album.

[TAC]

Full London show!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7nNpi4AKEI

 

[wolfking]

I'll have to find some time to try and check some of these vids.

[wolfking]

Running through the self titled, paying more attention on Mass Pollution and the lyrics.......yeah.....okay....I guess I can see why they are playing it. 

[TAC]

Full London show!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B7nNpi4AKEI

 

Just finished watching this....

Phenomenal show. The band seemed much looser than the previous night in Manchester.

Love the drum riser and the stage. They make good use of the platforms on each side of the stage.

As much as I wasn't crazy about the transition from Skyfall to Eagle Fly Free, I thought the Skyfall reprise at the end of How Many Tears was awesome.

Loved the interplay between Kai and Sascha. That's the kind of thing that makes this reunion believable and it makes me feel all warm inside.

Kiske and Andi are so strong on their own, but what's amazing is how different they are from each other, but also how well they complement each other. They are phenomenal performers.

When I saw them on the Pumpkins United tour, the one guy I was most impressed with was Dani. He was in total control of the whole concert. The show ran through him, and it still does.

Markus is a tremendous bassist.

Power is one of the best tracks in their catalog.

[wolfking]

I'll have a watch through this later.  I'm interested to see how Skyfall is as an opener.  I think Out for the Glory though would have been a fabulous opener.

[TAC]

Yeah, I agree, but for the concert, I think you have to get both singers out for the first number.
Skyfall is a great opener, one I actually hadn't considered.

Halloween was fucking awesome as an opener on the last tour. That why I thought King Of 1000 Years would work great. Would love to hear Kiske and Deris together on that.

[wolfking]

Yeah, I agree, but for the concert, I think you have to get both singers out for the first number.
Skyfall is a great opener, one I actually hadn't considered.

Halloween was fucking awesome as an opener on the last tour. That why I thought King Of 1000 Years would work great. Would love to hear Kiske and Deris together on that.

Yeah, that's what I figured.  Maybe if they didn't do the Pumpkins United tour this may have been on the cards to re-introduce Kiske but Skyfall makes perfect sense.

[Polarbear]

I'll have a watch through this later.  I'm interested to see how Skyfall is as an opener.  I think Out for the Glory though would have been a fabulous opener.

I hope they rotate "Out For The Glory" and "Fear of the Fallen" into the setlist at some point. "Mass Pollution" is not a bad song, but I would rather hear those two instead.

[Grappler]

Mass Pollution is 

[wolfking]

I checked Skyfall and Eagle on that London vid last night and the band are fucking tight.  Even guitar wise, it was nice.  Andi sounds incredible, he really does.  Kiske sounds slightly underdone but there's moments where he sounds amazing.

[MrBoom_shack-a-lack]

I prefer Fear of the fallen over Skyfall but I can see how Skyfall is a great opener.
Cool stage setup with Kiske and Andi on each side and the drums a mile up as usual. 
As a drummer i've always wondered what it's like to be so seperated from your bandmates like that but I guess you get used to it.