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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1645 on: July 14, 2021, 06:39:14 AM »
I always really enjoyed Andi singing Future World.

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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1646 on: July 15, 2021, 12:34:34 PM »
New album is pretty good.  Never was much of a fan of these guys, but I'm enjoying it.

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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1647 on: July 17, 2021, 05:37:12 PM »
I guessing this might not be news for most but i'm really really diggin Grosskopf bass work on this release, there's lots of cool melodic lines here and there and also I just find the bassmix to be perfect atleast with headphones. You hear the bass so clearly but still not overpowering the overall mix. I'm not sure if that's common for the bass in Helloween?

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Out for the glory 1:04-1:12
Fear of the fallen 2:09-2:15
Mass Pollution: 0:10-0:20
Angels: 2:25-2:30 and 4:15-4:20
Rise without chains: 0:36-0:49, 1:46-1:59 and 3:54-3:56
Skyfall: 2:16-2:20

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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1648 on: July 17, 2021, 05:39:45 PM »
Markus
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1650 on: July 17, 2021, 07:17:53 PM »
Markus is the bass player.
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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1651 on: July 18, 2021, 01:08:51 AM »
 :facepalm: Holy brainfart!

I was like yea I know his name is Markus Weikath...

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« Reply #1652 on: July 18, 2021, 03:11:55 PM »
Really nice cover of Eagle Fly Free. Michael Gilbert and Ken Mary from Flotsam & Jetsam are part of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJs-W-GOqzE
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1653 on: July 20, 2021, 09:02:21 AM »
Iím actually kinda glad Kai didnít write more because that mightíve resulted in him having bigger vocal parts, and Iím not a big fan of his voice.

Angels IMO is the worst song on the album. Sascha is really hit or miss on the last few albums. His best songs were on Gambling, Rabbits, And Keepers Legacy. Nowadays he seems to be experimenting a lot, which isnít a bad thing, but itís just not resulting in good songs.

The best songs on the new album come from Weiki.

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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1654 on: July 25, 2021, 06:53:39 AM »
Random thought: Nabatea would slay with some vocals from Kiske. He can take the verses and the high chorus, Deris can do the harsher bits and the middle section.
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« Reply #1655 on: July 25, 2021, 07:59:25 AM »
Random thought: Nabatea would slay with some vocals from Kiske. He can take the verses and the high chorus, Deris can do the harsher bits and the middle section.

Thereís a lot of songs Iíd like to hear Kiske sing. As much as I prefer Derisí voice, Weiki and co have definitely written songs that would be perfect for Kiske and would fit perfectly on a keepers record. Imagine Helloween recording Falling Higher or Salvation back in Ď88 with Kiske and putting it on Keepers.
When I first heard Out For The Glory I was breathtaken. Weikiís songwriting and Kiskeís voice just work so gloriously together.

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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1656 on: July 25, 2021, 02:41:17 PM »
Iím actually kinda glad Kai didnít write more because that mightíve resulted in him having bigger vocal parts, and Iím not a big fan of his voice.

Angels IMO is the worst song on the album. Sascha is really hit or miss on the last few albums. His best songs were on Gambling, Rabbits, And Keepers Legacy. Nowadays he seems to be experimenting a lot, which isnít a bad thing, but itís just not resulting in good songs.

The best songs on the new album come from Weiki.

I agree and I don't think I'd say that about any Deris era album.

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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1657 on: August 08, 2021, 08:41:26 PM »
Golden Times is a pretty great song and I think the first vocal melody ("In my dreams The world would be") sounds great but I hate how every time itís repeated (the vocal melody not the lyrics) it sounds kinda out of tune or something. Basically it only sounds great one time and I think that sucks. Just a random observation.

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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1658 on: August 08, 2021, 08:43:35 PM »
Golden Times is a pretty great song and I think the first vocal melody ("In my dreams The world would be") sounds great but I hate how every time itís repeated (the vocal melody not the lyrics) it sounds kinda out of tune or something. Basically it only sounds great one time and I think that sucks. Just a random observation.

Hmmm...can't say I've noticed.

That's still by far my fav song on the whole thing.

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« Reply #1659 on: August 08, 2021, 08:47:20 PM »
Out of tune is probably not the right way to describe it, it just sounds slightly off to me.

Anyway I do think the song should have been on the album instead of Cyanide or Indestructible.
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Re: Official Helloween thread v. Pumpkins United
« Reply #1660 on: August 22, 2021, 09:45:18 AM »
Out of tune is probably not the right way to describe it, it just sounds slightly off to me.

Anyway I do think the song should have been on the album instead of Cyanide or Indestructible.
Hmm interesting observation, I think I know what you mean. Can't say it's out of tune but the notes on the words Be and Dreams sounds a bit cleaner the first time and the second time it kinda collides with the harmony or something. Kinda sounds like it's not the same notes as the first time but i'm not sure. Was that it?

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