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Re: Marillion
« Reply #1435 on: March 13, 2021, 07:34:21 AM »
Did you know that Marillion were booed off the stage by Rush fans in the mid 80's when they opened for Rush?
Did they deserve it?


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« Reply #1436 on: March 13, 2021, 07:40:00 AM »
Did you know that Marillion were booed off the stage by Rush fans in the mid 80's when they opened for Rush?
Did they deserve it?

I did, and they probably didnít deserve it, but Rush fans were notoriously hard on openers and if youíve ever seen footage of Fish from back in the day itís not hard to imagine why the crowd were unwelcoming. :-)

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #1437 on: March 13, 2021, 08:59:28 AM »
Did you know that Marillion were booed off the stage by Rush fans in the mid 80's when they opened for Rush?
Did they deserve it?

I did, and they probably didnít deserve it, but Rush fans were notoriously hard on openers and if youíve ever seen footage of Fish from back in the day itís not hard to imagine why the crowd were unwelcoming. :-)

Yeah, there was a time when Mr Big opened for Rush, and the drummer got tagged with a thrown bottle. I mean I get not caring for openers, but just chill and wait, no need to be dicks about it.

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« Reply #1438 on: March 13, 2021, 11:37:05 AM »
Did you know that Marillion were booed off the stage by Rush fans in the mid 80's when they opened for Rush?
Did they deserve it?

I saw Rush at Radio City in 1983, and Marillion was the opener, and they were indeed booed loudly throughout their set.  Did they deserve it? Absolutely not

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« Reply #1439 on: March 27, 2021, 07:54:07 PM »
Did you know that Marillion were booed off the stage by Rush fans in the mid 80's when they opened for Rush?
Did they deserve it?

I saw Rush at Radio City in 1983, and Marillion was the opener, and they were indeed booed loudly throughout their set.  Did they deserve it? Absolutely not

Those were five shows I wish I'd seen.

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #1440 on: May 10, 2021, 09:44:53 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4THJlfvBoHw

some talk about the new album in this update.

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« Reply #1441 on: May 10, 2021, 10:20:07 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4THJlfvBoHw

some talk about the new album in this update.

Some interesting tidbits about the songs maybe being more uptempo. Not always a good thing but theyíve been in the moody/atmospheric headspace mostly since Marbles so a change of pace could be nice. Of course things are also still subject to change at this point.

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #1442 on: May 11, 2021, 01:44:52 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4THJlfvBoHw

some talk about the new album in this update.

Some interesting tidbits about the songs maybe being more uptempo. Not always a good thing but theyíve been in the moody/atmospheric headspace mostly since Marbles so a change of pace could be nice. Of course things are also still subject to change at this point.

I'm glad to hear they will have some more uptempo things on the record.  FEAR was a slog.  I've always been a fan of their uptempo, rockier stuff to begin with, and so the total lack of that on FEAR was such a disappointment, especially given the nature of the lyrics. 
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Re: Marillion
« Reply #1443 on: May 11, 2021, 02:18:49 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4THJlfvBoHw

some talk about the new album in this update.

Some interesting tidbits about the songs maybe being more uptempo. Not always a good thing but theyíve been in the moody/atmospheric headspace mostly since Marbles so a change of pace could be nice. Of course things are also still subject to change at this point.

I'm glad to hear they will have some more uptempo things on the record.  FEAR was a slog.  I've always been a fan of their uptempo, rockier stuff to begin with, and so the total lack of that on FEAR was such a disappointment, especially given the nature of the lyrics.

I love FEAR for the most part. It wasnít totally without itís up tempo moments, and I generally think Marillion are at their best with slower stuff anyway. But I wouldnít mind if they picked up the pace a hit with this next one.

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« Reply #1444 on: May 16, 2021, 03:50:58 PM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4THJlfvBoHw

some talk about the new album in this update.


Some interesting tidbits about the songs maybe being more uptempo. Not always a good thing but theyíve been in the moody/atmospheric headspace mostly since Marbles so a change of pace could be nice. Of course things are also still subject to change at this point.

I'm glad to hear they will have some more uptempo things on the record.  FEAR was a slog.  I've always been a fan of their uptempo, rockier stuff to begin with, and so the total lack of that on FEAR was such a disappointment, especially given the nature of the lyrics.

I love FEAR for the most part. It wasnít totally without itís up tempo moments, and I generally think Marillion are at their best with slower stuff anyway. But I wouldnít mind if they picked up the pace a hit with this next one.

I love FEAR too.

 Don't really care what the new one is or isn't as long as I like it.

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #1445 on: May 26, 2021, 07:44:57 PM »
Am I the only one here who thinks "The Gold" is not only the strongest track on FEAR, but also one of their best songs of all time? It always surprised me that they never released that one as a single.

My other favorite moments of FEAR all belong The Leavers: "The Remainers, "Vapour Trails in the Sky," and "The Jumble of Days." So powerful and haunting! However, as a whole, I think Sounds That Can't Be Made is a slightly stronger album.

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« Reply #1446 on: May 26, 2021, 07:56:40 PM »
Am I the only one here who thinks "The Gold" is not only the strongest track on FEAR, but also one of their best songs of all time? It always surprised me that they never released that one as a single.

My other favorite moments of FEAR all belong The Leavers: "The Remainers, "Vapour Trails in the Sky," and "The Jumble of Days." So powerful and haunting! However, as a whole, I think Sounds That Can't Be Made is a slightly stronger album.

I donít ever think of the individual tracks on El Dorado as individual songs, but I do like that section for sure. It probably would have made a nice single, though I donít imagine there is much motivation for the band to do singles these days (they did release a special version of Living in Fear I guess).

I really loved Sounds when it came out, but I think as time has gone on FEAR has held up a little better for me. I do still love Sounds though.

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #1447 on: May 27, 2021, 06:08:47 AM »
Am I the only one here who thinks "The Gold" is not only the strongest track on FEAR, but also one of their best songs of all time? It always surprised me that they never released that one as a single.

My other favorite moments of FEAR all belong The Leavers: "The Remainers, "Vapour Trails in the Sky," and "The Jumble of Days." So powerful and haunting! However, as a whole, I think Sounds That Can't Be Made is a slightly stronger album.

I donít ever think of the individual tracks on El Dorado as individual songs, but I do like that section for sure. It probably would have made a nice single, though I donít imagine there is much motivation for the band to do singles these days (they did release a special version of Living in Fear I guess).

I really loved Sounds when it came out, but I think as time has gone on FEAR has held up a little better for me. I do still love Sounds though.

It's wierd; neither one has really had legs for me.   It might all be in my head, though.  There's a self-righteousness about Hogarth that isn't a dealbreaker, but certainly diminishes some of the appeal for me (NOT the politics, that not an issue, it's the self-righteousness OF the politics).   Which is ironic, because Fish has his moments of self-righteousness too; he just has so many naked moments of ... I don't know what the word is, but with Fish there's enough humility in failed relationships, the failed cunning plans, that the self-righteousness doesn't stick as much as with Hogarth.  As is almost always the case with Marillion, the more emotional, the more they look inward (either to themselves or the characters they are writing about), it seems the more I like the music that results.

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« Reply #1448 on: May 27, 2021, 06:17:12 AM »
Am I the only one here who thinks "The Gold" is not only the strongest track on FEAR, but also one of their best songs of all time? It always surprised me that they never released that one as a single.

My other favorite moments of FEAR all belong The Leavers: "The Remainers, "Vapour Trails in the Sky," and "The Jumble of Days." So powerful and haunting! However, as a whole, I think Sounds That Can't Be Made is a slightly stronger album.

The Gold is probably the highlight of FEAR for me, though Demolished Lives has a great, almost sinister vibe that I really enjoy. I need to revisit this album as it fell a bit flat for me when it came out and didn't get as much play as I'd hoped.

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« Reply #1449 on: May 30, 2021, 05:41:18 PM »
Am I the only one here who thinks "The Gold" is not only the strongest track on FEAR, but also one of their best songs of all time? It always surprised me that they never released that one as a single.

My other favorite moments of FEAR all belong The Leavers: "The Remainers, "Vapour Trails in the Sky," and "The Jumble of Days." So powerful and haunting! However, as a whole, I think Sounds That Can't Be Made is a slightly stronger album.

I don't know. I enjoy the whole album. It's become one of my favorite Hogarth albums. Especially the live versions....

I like "Sounds" too, but I maybe not as much as I did during the first year it was out. (Maybe because they only played two songs from it (album was not out yet when the show happened.) when I saw them that year.)

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Re: Marillion
« Reply #1450 on: June 09, 2021, 02:54:43 PM »
Not really appropriate of anything, but 36 years later, I finally found out what "Expresso Bongo" means in the title to Waterhole. It's a reference to a stage musical - and later movie - from the late 50's that satirized the music industry.  It doesn't take much to understand where Fish's head was that with that reference.

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« Reply #1451 on: June 09, 2021, 03:09:49 PM »
Not really appropriate of anything, but 36 years later, I finally found out what "Expresso Bongo" means in the title to Waterhole. It's a reference to a stage musical - and later movie - from the late 50's that satirized the music industry.  It doesn't take much to understand where Fish's head was that with that reference.

I learned this recently from the Marillion fan podcast Between You and Me. They found it from this excellent website which I have visited several times before but hadnít seen that part:

https://marillionations.blogspot.com/1985/06/waterhole-expresso-bongo.html?m=1

There are a bunch of random old movie references throughout Misplaced Childhood actually. Bitter Suite has several:

https://marillionations.blogspot.com/1985/06/bitter-suite.html?m=1

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« Reply #1452 on: June 19, 2021, 04:27:26 PM »
Apparently Misplaced Childhood was released 36 years ago yesterday.