Author Topic: The Haken thread v. Restoration (Read 413674 times)

LordCost · « **Reply #2940 on:** October 01, 2014, 06:37:18 AM »

Quote from: ariich on September 24, 2014, 08:14:45 AM

For those who know/like Blind, how do you think this rework compares?

In terms of sound and flow, I think they've done an amazing job. I love the djent feel of the riffing now, and the song definitely feels a bit more mature.

On the first couple of listens, I really did miss the dark waltz sections and the lovely jazzy instrumental from the original. But we still have Blind to listen to, and I think the changes help this standalone as basically a separate song. More like a sequel than a re-recording.

I agree on everything. I would add that the 2:45-3:15 part in the new song (after the second chorus) and the new intro are the best improvements, but I slightly like more verses and chorus of Blind, and the last chorus has lost the epicness of the original. I think Blind is still a bit better and more interesting though

BlackInk · « **Reply #2941 on:** October 05, 2014, 02:38:09 PM »

Is there still no confirmation on which one 'Earthlings' is a rework of? I saw some speculation on it when the news of the EP first came, that it might be Manifolds or Black Seed. I really really hope it's Black Seed, and would be rather disappointed if it turns out to be Manifolds. Don't get me wrong, Manifolds is a great instrumental track, it's just that I wouldn't want too much time of such a 'short' EP to be devoted to an instrumental.

mikemangioy · « **Reply #2942 on:** October 05, 2014, 02:55:42 PM »

man, I just listened to Blind and wow

not sure if I like it or i don't... the chorus sounds much more grand and epic, but the rest of the song is too slow and there are parts that just DON'T fit there (circus) and other that are cool, but useless (jazzy bass solo), so yep. Darkest Light team woot.

DarkLord_Lalinc · « **Reply #2943 on:** October 05, 2014, 05:49:34 PM »

It would be amazing if Haken stayed with this sound for their next full-length studio album. I'd love some heavy shit from them, their "Train of Thought" so to speak.

Obfuscation · « **Reply #2944 on:** October 05, 2014, 11:55:06 PM »

Quote from: DarkLord_Lalinc on October 05, 2014, 05:49:34 PM

It would be amazing if Haken stayed with this sound for their next full-length studio album. I'd love some heavy shit from them, their "Train of Thought" so to speak.

Awwww yeah. You knows whats up.

LordCost · « **Reply #2945 on:** October 07, 2014, 02:17:00 PM »

I'm sure it's Black Seed, I remember some facebook comments where the band confirmed that to some fans who asked which songs were chosen from the demo

BlackInk · « **Reply #2946 on:** October 08, 2014, 10:07:23 AM »

Yeah, the band also posted a link to the first review of the EP today, which more or less (without stating it directly) confirms it.

The review:
https://thelostsong1.wordpress.com/2014/10/07/album-review-haken-restoration-ep/

GasparXR · « **Reply #2947 on:** October 08, 2014, 02:20:29 PM »

Fuck. So excited. It's less than a month away, and that seems like a long while now, but it will figuratively be here tomorrow. (Any college student will understand

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BlackInk · « **Reply #2948 on:** October 09, 2014, 01:46:59 PM »

Another review.

https://www.kalyr.com/weblog/music/record-reviews/haken-restoration/

krands85 · « **Reply #2949 on:** October 12, 2014, 12:31:09 PM »

Less than 3 weeks until I see these guys for the first time in Edinburgh

Just been checking out Maschine who are supporting and they're pretty cool

Need to listen to some Leprous too and see what they're like.

me7 · « **Reply #2950 on:** October 12, 2014, 02:38:23 PM »

Quote from: krands85 on October 12, 2014, 12:31:09 PM

Need to listen to some Leprous too and see what they're like.

You're in for a treat. Start with their second album (Bilateral).

ariich · « **Reply #2951 on:** October 12, 2014, 02:42:12 PM »

Quote from: me7 on October 12, 2014, 02:38:23 PM

Quote from: krands85 on October 12, 2014, 12:31:09 PM
Need to listen to some Leprous too and see what they're like.

You're in for a treat. Start with their second album (Bilateral).

Agreed. Amazing album, great band.

Maschine I'm pretty lukewarm towards. I saw them support Haken a couple of gigs ago, and they were alright but nothing special. They were by far at their best when they were doing something a bit more unique, whereas most songs sounded like another band, like POS or Opeth.

GasparXR · « **Reply #2952 on:** October 13, 2014, 10:24:13 AM »

https://www.prog-sphere.com/reviews/haken-restoration-review/

Another Restoration review posted!

LordCost · « **Reply #2953 on:** October 13, 2014, 12:05:15 PM »

4 excellent reviews!

MS394 · « **Reply #2954 on:** October 15, 2014, 01:14:23 AM »

Anyone got a chance to listen to the Itunes samples? My Itunes won't work

ariich · « **Reply #2955 on:** October 15, 2014, 02:11:07 AM »

BlackInk · « **Reply #2956 on:** October 15, 2014, 09:23:23 AM »

The 'Earthlings' sample sounds really cool. The sample for 'Crystallised' doesn't really contain very much, but it was still nice.

BlackInk · « **Reply #2957 on:** October 18, 2014, 09:10:53 AM »

Somewhere down the road I would really like a 'Restoration Part II', with the other three demo songs. I think they made excellent choices with the tracks on Restoration, but the other ones are still good enough for me to think that it would be a shame if they never got their return to the spotlight as well. Could be 10 years from now, I'd just be happy if it happened at all.

GasparXR · « **Reply #2958 on:** October 18, 2014, 09:23:27 AM »

Quote from: BlackInk on October 18, 2014, 09:10:53 AM

Somewhere down the road I would really like a 'Restoration Part II', with the other three demo songs. I think they made excellent choices with the tracks on Restoration, but the other ones are still good enough for me to think that it would be a shame if they never got their return to the spotlight as well. Could be 10 years from now, I'd just be happy if it happened at all.

That would be interesting to see as well! But for now I just can't wait for this to come out... The iTunes samples are so delicious.

Nick · « **Reply #2959 on:** October 18, 2014, 09:26:01 AM »

Quote from: GasparXR on October 18, 2014, 09:23:27 AM

Quote from: BlackInk on October 18, 2014, 09:10:53 AM
Somewhere down the road I would really like a 'Restoration Part II', with the other three demo songs. I think they made excellent choices with the tracks on Restoration, but the other ones are still good enough for me to think that it would be a shame if they never got their return to the spotlight as well. Could be 10 years from now, I'd just be happy if it happened at all.
That would be interesting to see as well! But for now I just can't wait for this to come out... The iTunes samples are so delicious.

I'd like it to happen 10 years from now, just to see how old material updated today would compare to old material updated then.

Elite · « **Reply #2960 on:** October 18, 2014, 01:25:13 PM »

Haken survivor 2014 has started, for those interested. First round is located here.

ariich · « **Reply #2961 on:** October 19, 2014, 11:05:28 AM »

Does anyone in Europe (ideally in the UK, but anywhere else also fine) want the Restoration vinyl but not bothered about the CD, and want to go half-and-half on cost? I want the CD but have no use for the vinyl.

Estiui · « **Reply #2962 on:** October 20, 2014, 02:39:52 AM »

So here I am, listening to Crystallized...

ariich · « **Reply #2963 on:** October 20, 2014, 02:47:24 AM »

Wow, quite surprised that they've released it - that's now most of the EP that people can hear!

Zydar · « **Reply #2964 on:** October 20, 2014, 02:48:03 AM »

ariich · « **Reply #2965 on:** October 20, 2014, 02:53:04 AM »

Fun idea for a contest! I don't have the slightest clue where or what MP's cameo is though. All I know is that the band said on Facebook that it was neither vocals nor drums. Hmm...

Estiui · « **Reply #2966 on:** October 20, 2014, 02:59:20 AM »

Quote from: ariich on October 20, 2014, 02:53:04 AM

Fun idea for a contest! I don't have the slightest clue where or what MP's cameo is though. All I know is that the band said on Facebook that it was neither vocals nor drums. Hmm...

Also, what's that thing of Mike mentioning a past drummer...? I thought it had to be with vocals, but I'm very lost now

Newmz · « **Reply #2967 on:** October 20, 2014, 07:29:33 AM »

I really like it.

I suppose one of my criticisms of the EP's sound in general is that Ray's kit sounds a little dirtier to my ears. Has anyone else noticed that?

ariich · « **Reply #2968 on:** October 20, 2014, 07:36:58 AM »

I'm loving the sound of Ray's drums on the EP. That and Ross's vocals are the two areas that really standout as improved over the original demo!

Newmz · « **Reply #2969 on:** October 20, 2014, 08:14:27 AM »

over the original demo I certainly agree. Ross is phenomenal.

I'm not trashing his sound - it's still a good sound, and his drumming is excellent - but what I meant is that his tom hits give less of a note. Less pure. Agh, I know nothing about drumming, I'm having a hard time explaining what I mean here $:-\$

I guess one could say darker-sounding than, say, on aquarius.

grittier maybe? I'm at a loss for words. A good descriptor will come to me eventually

ariich · « **Reply #2970 on:** October 20, 2014, 09:53:23 AM »

Hmm, can't say I've noticed that. Soundcloud stream isn't working on my work computer, so will have to give it a listen when I get home.

BlackInk · « **Reply #2971 on:** October 20, 2014, 11:08:24 AM »

Love the track. Although some of the stuff I really enjoyed about the demo-version is missing, but still absolutely fantastic.

GasparXR · « **Reply #2972 on:** October 20, 2014, 11:22:48 AM »

I think I heard the so-called "circus" bit return in a new way!

Zydar · « **Reply #2973 on:** October 20, 2014, 12:07:39 PM »

I've just listened through Crystallise (on headphones) but can't seem to find MPs guest spot. Anyone? Is it the china gong at the very end?

me7 · « **Reply #2974 on:** October 20, 2014, 01:09:46 PM »

Quote from: Zydar on October 20, 2014, 12:07:39 PM

Is it the china gong at the very end?

The same thought crossed my mind as well, but it has to be more.

Quote from: BlackInk on October 20, 2014, 11:08:24 AM

Love the track. Although some of the stuff I really enjoyed about the demo-version is missing, but still absolutely fantastic.

Same as with Darkest Light. I love everything they have added or reworked, but I miss the stuff that was removed.

News: Track-by-track video for Untethered Angel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Co1_h0GtAw

Author Topic: The Haken thread v. Restoration (Read 413674 times)