Author Topic: The Haken thread v. Restoration (Read 413703 times)

me7 · « **Reply #2870 on:** September 16, 2014, 04:06:41 PM »

Quote from: ariich on September 16, 2014, 03:55:32 PM

As I said though, it's not saving them anything on cost, but it is limiting their audience. So it doesn't make sense to be financial reasons.

Aren't vinyls sold for much higher prices that probably include higher profit margins?

ariich · « **Reply #2871 on:** September 16, 2014, 04:09:11 PM »

From what they said, they would have sold the CDs alone at the same price.

Mosh · « **Reply #2872 on:** September 16, 2014, 07:56:21 PM »

Are they including the CD with the vinyl?

jammindude · « **Reply #2873 on:** September 17, 2014, 05:03:32 AM »

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #2874 on:** September 17, 2014, 06:58:33 AM »

Just at a guess - I would imagine their fanbase at large is more likely to buy vinyl than to buy CDs. I wouldn't be surprised to see more bands do this, especially bands on this "level" of financial success.

Scorpion · « **Reply #2875 on:** September 17, 2014, 04:06:51 PM »

MY HAKEN TICKET FOR NOVEMBER ARRIVED TODAY OMGWTFBBQ

Shadow Ninja 2.0 · « **Reply #2876 on:** September 17, 2014, 04:15:02 PM »

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on September 17, 2014, 06:58:33 AM

Just at a guess - I would imagine their fanbase at large is more likely to buy vinyl than to buy CDs. I wouldn't be surprised to see more bands do this, especially bands on this "level" of financial success.

Can this really be the case? I guess I've just never seen vinyl as being anything more than niche, even in a fanbase for a band that's sort of niche themselves.

Mosh · « **Reply #2877 on:** September 17, 2014, 09:40:05 PM »

Yea, somehow I really doubt the vinyl is anywhere near as popular as the CDs for Haken.

I might buy the vinyl though. I really want the CD and having Haken on vinyl definitely wouldn't be the worst thing in the world

Dark Castle · « **Reply #2878 on:** September 17, 2014, 09:52:50 PM »

Quote from: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on September 17, 2014, 04:15:02 PM

Quote from: hefdaddy42 on September 17, 2014, 06:58:33 AM
Just at a guess - I would imagine their fanbase at large is more likely to buy vinyl than to buy CDs. I wouldn't be surprised to see more bands do this, especially bands on this "level" of financial success.

Can this really be the case? I guess I've just never seen vinyl as being anything more than niche, even in a fanbase for a band that's sort of niche themselves.

Vinyl sales have grown by noticeable percentages while CD sales continue to decline.

Vinyl sales rose 32% in 2013 after an 18% increase in 2012. The numbers still differ of course, CDs still sell more in numbers, but Vinyl is more than just a niche.

jammindude · « **Reply #2879 on:** September 18, 2014, 02:14:57 PM »

PRE ORDER IS UP!!! Mine's already paid for!!!

https://www.burningshed.com/store/InsideOutMusic/product/523/6122/

hefdaddy42 · « **Reply #2880 on:** September 18, 2014, 02:38:32 PM »

Quote from: Dark Castle on September 17, 2014, 09:52:50 PM

Quote from: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on September 17, 2014, 04:15:02 PM
Quote from: hefdaddy42 on September 17, 2014, 06:58:33 AM
Just at a guess - I would imagine their fanbase at large is more likely to buy vinyl than to buy CDs. I wouldn't be surprised to see more bands do this, especially bands on this "level" of financial success.

Can this really be the case? I guess I've just never seen vinyl as being anything more than niche, even in a fanbase for a band that's sort of niche themselves.
Vinyl sales have grown by noticeable percentages while CD sales continue to decline.

Vinyl sales rose 32% in 2013 after an 18% increase in 2012. The numbers still differ of course, CDs still sell more in numbers, but Vinyl is more than just a niche.

This.

Haken's fan base is probably part of the same population that are just as likely to (illegally) download an mp3 as buy a CD.

I would imagine, however, that their fanbase also overlaps with the population that is enamored with vinyl.

I wouldn't be surprised to see more prog acts go this route in the near future.

GasparXR · « **Reply #2881 on:** September 18, 2014, 03:00:05 PM »

Quote from: jammindude on September 18, 2014, 02:14:57 PM

PRE ORDER IS UP!!! Mine's already paid for!!!

https://www.burningshed.com/store/InsideOutMusic/product/523/6122/

Daaaamn... that's expensive. If the vinyl-only version is cheaper I'll get that just so I have a physical copy.

jammindude · « **Reply #2882 on:** September 18, 2014, 03:26:28 PM »

Ummmm, vinyl only? I don't think that's an option. It's this, or MP3's, my friend.

GasparXR · « **Reply #2883 on:** September 18, 2014, 07:58:46 PM »

Quote from: jammindude on September 18, 2014, 03:26:28 PM

Ummmm, vinyl only? I don't think that's an option. It's this, or MP3's, my friend.

I thought the Vinyl+CD option was the England import?

Or is that the only version being released? Also does the vinyl preorder come with a .flac version of the album like The Mountain did?

jammindude · « **Reply #2884 on:** September 18, 2014, 08:20:00 PM »

I believe they said that this release would be a digital download only unless you bought the vinyl package which is only an import.

Re-read the last page or two, it's all been discussed and debated.

Nick · « **Reply #2885 on:** September 18, 2014, 09:16:33 PM »

Not often I will just up and pay for a burning shed import right off the bat, but this is an obvious exception. MUST HAVE NOW.

GasparXR · « **Reply #2886 on:** September 18, 2014, 09:40:07 PM »

Quote from: jammindude on September 18, 2014, 08:20:00 PM

I believe they said that this release would be a digital download only unless you bought the vinyl package which is only an import.

Re-read the last page or two, it's all been discussed and debated.

Oh, okay. I just misunderstood. I guess I'm going to buy this then!

Elite · « **Reply #2887 on:** September 19, 2014, 04:15:57 AM »

Quote from: jammindude on September 18, 2014, 02:14:57 PM

PRE ORDER IS UP!!! Mine's already paid for!!!

https://www.burningshed.com/store/InsideOutMusic/product/523/6122/

Will it only be released through Burning Shed? I'd rather buy it from Inside Out straight away.

BlackInk · « **Reply #2888 on:** September 20, 2014, 05:12:20 AM »

So apparently there's going to be a "zero budget" video of Darkest Light, coming out some time next week!

Zydar · « **Reply #2889 on:** September 20, 2014, 05:34:21 AM »

I guess "zero budget" means no puppets this time

Lucidity · « **Reply #2890 on:** September 20, 2014, 09:55:26 AM »

I hope the lyrics are closer to The Mountain than the two before... Honestly not excited to hear that the next album after Restoration is another concept... I think it only tends to detract from the music.

me7 · « **Reply #2891 on:** September 20, 2014, 12:05:55 PM »

Quote from: Lucidity on September 20, 2014, 09:55:26 AM

I hope the lyrics are closer to The Mountain than the two before... Honestly not excited to hear that the next album after Restoration is another concept... I think it only tends to detract from the music.

I feel the exact opposite. I like the complex and interwoven music that tends to come out when bands write concept albums.

GasparXR · « **Reply #2892 on:** September 20, 2014, 12:07:49 PM »

Quote from: Lucidity on September 20, 2014, 09:55:26 AM

I hope the lyrics are closer to The Mountain than the two before... Honestly not excited to hear that the next album after Restoration is another concept... I think it only tends to detract from the music.

You do know The Mountain is also a concept album right? The only difference is that it does not followed a literal story, it follows a lyrical theme.

Onno · « **Reply #2893 on:** September 20, 2014, 03:26:49 PM »

Visions was a concept just like Aquarius, but I think it doesn't have as clear a story/meaning as Aquarius does. The Mountain, as Gaspar said, is also a concept but is even less of a story.

ariich · « **Reply #2894 on:** September 20, 2014, 03:27:33 PM »

Quote from: GasparXR on September 20, 2014, 12:07:49 PM

Quote from: Lucidity on September 20, 2014, 09:55:26 AM
I hope the lyrics are closer to The Mountain than the two before... Honestly not excited to hear that the next album after Restoration is another concept... I think it only tends to detract from the music.

You do know The Mountain is also a concept album right? The only difference is that it does not followed a literal story, it follows a lyrical theme.

Also missing the point that the new songs are reworked versions of songs from the demo, so lyrics are likely to be similar to those.

me7 · « **Reply #2895 on:** September 20, 2014, 04:53:40 PM »

Quote from: ariich on September 20, 2014, 03:27:33 PM

Also missing the point that the new songs are reworked versions of songs from the demo, so lyrics are likely to be similar to those.

It's about a facebook post from the band. They wrote that they are discussing concepts for album 4.

GasparXR · « **Reply #2896 on:** September 20, 2014, 11:10:19 PM »

Quote from: me7 on September 20, 2014, 04:53:40 PM

Quote from: ariich on September 20, 2014, 03:27:33 PM
Also missing the point that the new songs are reworked versions of songs from the demo, so lyrics are likely to be similar to those.

It's about a facebook post from the band. They wrote that they are discussing concepts for album 4.

That very well could just mean what musical and/or lyrical direction they want to take. It might not even mean a concept album. Who knows, maybe they'll make a more song-oriented album? I'm open to any idea they go with.

Lucidity · « **Reply #2897 on:** September 21, 2014, 10:31:57 PM »

I think it's a bit of a stretch to call the Mountain a "concept album," personally, just as I wouldn't call Octavarium a concept album really. At the very least, the concepts aren't obvious enough to take away from the listening experience for me. For whatever reason, I think it works well enough with Scenes, but tends to annoy me more with Aquarius and Visions. But if that's the direction they're going for, then all the power to them.

PixelDream · « **Reply #2898 on:** September 22, 2014, 03:04:25 AM »

Man, this band keeps coming up everywhere, but I still don't get it. I have listened to The Mountain a couple of times but to me it sounds damn impressive musically, but still it feels a bit generic. Regardless, I do hear that The Mountain is a step up from their previous albums.

mike099 · « **Reply #2899 on:** September 22, 2014, 11:59:58 AM »

If DT went back to having an opening band, would love to see Haken open especially in America. It would be a real treat for us in the States to see Haken.

Dark Castle · « **Reply #2900 on:** September 22, 2014, 12:04:59 PM »

I think Leprous would be a great choice for an opener.

The King in Crimson · « **Reply #2901 on:** September 22, 2014, 12:21:34 PM »

Quote from: Dark Castle on September 22, 2014, 12:04:59 PM

I think Leprous would be a great choice for an opener.

God I would blow a load of crushed diamonds if that happened here in the states.

Xenon · « **Reply #2902 on:** September 22, 2014, 08:24:41 PM »

Haken and Leprous Opening for DT.
I would literally fly to wherever that would take place

me7 · « **Reply #2903 on:** September 24, 2014, 01:44:42 AM »

New song in a few hours: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10152809988929744&id=102787549743&

ariich · « **Reply #2904 on:** September 24, 2014, 02:18:29 AM »

I'm guessing it'll be the "zero-budget" video they've been touting!

News: Untethered Angel official video: https://youtu.be/gylxuO6dKOw

Author Topic: The Haken thread v. Restoration (Read 413703 times)