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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2310 on: November 29, 2013, 07:58:32 PM »
Let's see, memorable vocal melodies I can think of...

In Because It's There, pretty much the whole thing: "Life is a dream... a gift we receive" "Climb, find your way, scale high, don't look back" "In vaaaaaaiiiiin we carry onnnn"

"Streeeeeaaaaams of liiiiiiiiight..."

"I BET YOU DON'T REMEMBER ME I BET YOU WON'T FORGET THE ONLY WAY TO GO WHEN THERE IS NOWHERE LEFT TO ROAM"

"Tearing down the walls of eternity!"

"THE COCKROACH KING SITS ON HIS THRONE WITH A MIDAS TOUCH AND A HEART OF STONE"

and then the chorus of Celestial Elixir, which has been mentioned. Overall, I disagree highly, Haken writes fantastic vocal melodies more often than not.



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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2311 on: November 29, 2013, 07:59:31 PM »
Well, I have yet to hear The Mountain, so I can't comment on those.

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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2312 on: November 29, 2013, 08:27:04 PM »
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2313 on: November 29, 2013, 09:08:41 PM »
If you think Haken don't have interesting vocal melodies you really need to listen to The Mountain because every single song there just have fantastic vocals the whole way through. Yeah a lot of Visions is dull in that regard, I won't disagree there. Aquarius has a lot of good vocal melodies too, but.
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2314 on: November 30, 2013, 03:04:51 AM »
Quote from: Shadow Ninja 2.0 on November 29, 2013, 07:59:31 PM
Well, I have yet to hear The Mountain,...

WHAT? :omg:

For fucks sake, drop whatever you're doing right now and listen to it immediately!
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2315 on: November 30, 2013, 07:11:30 AM »
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9EP40mAJCc JR and Eren Basburg enjoying some Haken  :lol :coolio
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2316 on: November 30, 2013, 07:49:10 AM »
Quote from: Parama on November 29, 2013, 09:08:41 PM
If you think Haken don't have interesting vocal melodies you really need to listen to The Mountain because every single song there just have fantastic vocals the whole way through. Yeah a lot of Visions is dull in that regard, I won't disagree there. Aquarius has a lot of good vocal melodies too, but.
Although I agree that Visions have the worst vocal melodies,I absolutely love the "all this you can read... in my suicide notes" part in Deathless  :P
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2317 on: November 30, 2013, 08:13:39 AM »
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2318 on: November 30, 2013, 11:55:51 AM »
I quite like the vocal melodies in the second half of Shapeshifter. It always reminds me of SOAD for some reason, whereas the first bit of the song reminds me of Beyond This Life.
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2319 on: November 30, 2013, 04:05:01 PM »
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Rumbo - from what I know of your tastes, I imagine you'll dig The Mountain more than the first two, but I might be wrong.

I agree. But I also think he won't end up loving this album the way many of us do.
Indeed, but then I find it hard to imagine many people liking this album as much as I do!

Slightly late to this response :lol

Yeah, The Mountain is definitely better than the previous album. But, also correctly observed, it just didn't grab me enough to wanting to listen to it again.
I should give it another whirl though, it wasn't bad by any means.
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2320 on: November 30, 2013, 04:27:47 PM »
I'd definitely recommend giving it a few listens, especially if you thought it was fairly good, as a lot of people found it to be a real grower.
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2321 on: December 09, 2013, 11:58:32 PM »
WHY IS IN MEMORIAM SO CATCHY

WHY IS COCKROACH KING SO CATCHY

Like seriously, if I ranked these based on catchiness, I would rank FBTE, IM, and CK at the top for this album, with AS close behind. This album is so good, I NEED TO BUY IT.
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2322 on: December 10, 2013, 10:23:20 PM »
Quote from: Lucien on December 09, 2013, 11:58:32 PM
WHY IS IN MEMORIAM SO CATCHY

WHY IS COCKROACH KING SO CATCHY

Like seriously, if I ranked these based on catchiness, I would rank FBTE, IM, and CK at the top for this album, with AS close behind. This album is so good, I NEED TO BUY IT.

Yeah, it's ridiculous. Definitely on my Christmas list.
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2323 on: December 11, 2013, 01:58:06 AM »
That's what's special about Haken in a nutshell: very proggy AND very catchy. CK is a prime example of a song that is easy to enjoy casually but also has a lot to offer if you want to dissect it.
Most bands specialize in one of the two. Some prog musicians (*cough* Steven Wilson *cough*) even seem to think that progressive music must not be catchy...
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2324 on: December 11, 2013, 03:33:25 AM »
Haken songs are the absolute worst (or best) for getting stuck in my head.
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2325 on: December 11, 2013, 07:25:27 AM »
Agreed. I also agree that that's an amazing quality to have. Haken is the catchiest prog band I've listened to.
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2326 on: December 11, 2013, 09:59:44 AM »
Quote from: me7 on December 11, 2013, 01:58:06 AM
That's what's special about Haken in a nutshell: very proggy AND very catchy. CK is a prime example of a song that is easy to enjoy casually but also has a lot to offer if you want to dissect it.
Most bands specialize in one of the two. Some prog musicians (*cough* Steven Wilson *cough*) even seem to think that progressive music must not be catchy...

Why do you say that about Steven Wilson? I find pretty much everything I've listened to of Porcupine Tree to be highly catchy/memorable. Especially Blackest Eyes, The Sound of Muzak, and Piano Lessons.
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2327 on: December 11, 2013, 10:41:27 AM »
Quote from: GasparXR on December 11, 2013, 09:59:44 AM
Quote from: me7 on December 11, 2013, 01:58:06 AM
That's what's special about Haken in a nutshell: very proggy AND very catchy. CK is a prime example of a song that is easy to enjoy casually but also has a lot to offer if you want to dissect it.
Most bands specialize in one of the two. Some prog musicians (*cough* Steven Wilson *cough*) even seem to think that progressive music must not be catchy...

Why do you say that about Steven Wilson? I find pretty much everything I've listened to of Porcupine Tree to be highly catchy/memorable. Especially Blackest Eyes, The Sound of Muzak, and Piano Lessons.
I second this.
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2328 on: December 11, 2013, 11:09:07 AM »
Third.
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2329 on: December 11, 2013, 11:15:07 AM »
Fourth.  Wilson's music is often jam-packed with catchy vocal melodies and choruses, so that is one bizarre comment. :lol :lol
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2330 on: December 11, 2013, 11:23:05 AM »
Especially since Steven Wilson has often mentioned his love for well-made pop music.
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2331 on: December 11, 2013, 07:51:11 PM »
Quote from: Lucien on December 09, 2013, 11:58:32 PM
WHY IS IN MEMORIAM SO CATCHY

WHY IS COCKROACH KING SO CATCHY

Like seriously, if I ranked these based on catchiness, I would rank FBTE, IM, and CK at the top for this album, with AS close behind. This album is so good, I NEED TO BUY IT.

Okay, I need to go back and listen to this again then.  I had to take a break after the whole 'Chocolate Rain' thing killed it for me.
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2332 on: December 12, 2013, 12:21:47 AM »
I never got that, it sounds absolutely nothing like Chocolate Rain apart from the first 3 notes going high-low-high.
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2333 on: December 12, 2013, 01:17:54 AM »
Exactly.
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2334 on: December 12, 2013, 03:40:51 AM »
Quote from: ariich on December 12, 2013, 12:21:47 AM
I never got that, it sounds absolutely nothing like Chocolate Rain apart from the first 3 notes going high-low-high.
The interval between the notes is the same as well isn't it?
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2335 on: December 12, 2013, 07:03:05 AM »
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Quote from: ariich on December 12, 2013, 12:21:47 AM
I never got that, it sounds absolutely nothing like Chocolate Rain apart from the first 3 notes going high-low-high.
The interval between the notes is the same as well isn't it?
Possibly the first two notes, but defnitely not the third.
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2336 on: December 12, 2013, 01:05:15 PM »
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I never got that, it sounds absolutely nothing like Chocolate Rain apart from the first 3 notes going high-low-high.
The interval between the notes is the same as well isn't it?
Possibly the first two notes, but defnitely not the third.

Yes. In Chocolate Rain, the third note is the same as the first, but that's not the case in Cockroach King -- it's two notes lower than the first. I can't confirm this on the spot, but it might be a different key as well.
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2337 on: December 12, 2013, 01:43:00 PM »
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I never got that, it sounds absolutely nothing like Chocolate Rain apart from the first 3 notes going high-low-high.
The interval between the notes is the same as well isn't it?
Possibly the first two notes, but defnitely not the third.

Yes. In Chocolate Rain, the third note is the same as the first, but that's not the case in Cockroach King -- it's two notes lower than the first. I can't confirm this on the spot, but it might be a different key as well.

Jealous of your ability to know that.
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2338 on: December 12, 2013, 02:49:55 PM »
Quote from: davidolson22 on December 12, 2013, 01:43:00 PM
Quote from: GasparXR on December 12, 2013, 01:05:15 PM
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I never got that, it sounds absolutely nothing like Chocolate Rain apart from the first 3 notes going high-low-high.
The interval between the notes is the same as well isn't it?
Possibly the first two notes, but defnitely not the third.

Yes. In Chocolate Rain, the third note is the same as the first, but that's not the case in Cockroach King -- it's two notes lower than the first. I can't confirm this on the spot, but it might be a different key as well.

Jealous of your ability to know that.

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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2339 on: December 12, 2013, 03:27:32 PM »
C'mon guys don't bring that back  :rollin
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2340 on: December 12, 2013, 08:49:30 PM »
F#, B, and D are those notes being discussed
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2341 on: December 13, 2013, 03:35:37 AM »
Quote from: GasparXR on December 12, 2013, 01:05:15 PM
Quote from: ariich on December 12, 2013, 07:03:05 AM
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Quote from: ariich on December 12, 2013, 12:21:47 AM
I never got that, it sounds absolutely nothing like Chocolate Rain apart from the first 3 notes going high-low-high.
The interval between the notes is the same as well isn't it?
Possibly the first two notes, but defnitely not the third.

Yes. In Chocolate Rain, the third note is the same as the first, but that's not the case in Cockroach King -- it's two notes lower than the first. I can't confirm this on the spot, but it might be a different key as well.
only on odd-numbered times that he says it, on even numbered times its high-low-inbetween, with similar intervals
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2342 on: December 13, 2013, 10:45:46 PM »
Quote from: Jaq on December 12, 2013, 03:27:32 PM
C'mon guys don't bring that back  :rollin

I just couldn't resist  ;D ;D ;D
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2343 on: December 14, 2013, 09:02:31 AM »
Quote from: Lucien on December 12, 2013, 08:49:30 PM
F#, B, and D are those notes being discussed

Yes! I realize I actually was mistaken. The third note is actually 4 notes lower than the first, not w.
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Re: The Haken thread v. The Mountain
« Reply #2344 on: December 14, 2013, 12:17:15 PM »
W. My favorite interval.
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