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« Reply #35 on: September 29, 2010, 10:36:00 AM »
The Dems/Libs always want CONTROL... so they can control what is "valid News" and what is the propoganda they want you to injest as the "so called truth"..

this is very scary..

Only the Dems and Libs want control?  Hmmm....interesting.

prove otherwise?

wow...good one...got me there.
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« Reply #36 on: September 29, 2010, 10:40:16 AM »
Holy shit!  I think he actually believes it.
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« Reply #37 on: September 29, 2010, 10:48:53 AM »
whats not to believe? history will show us its the Dem/libs that want to control liberty, info, healthcare, class warfare, by having the goverment injected to things they should not be, as they fear free info sharing.. just look at Obama freaking out over Fox news...

I didnt hear GWB complaining about MSNBC, CNN, BBC, CNBC, CBS, Dan Rather or Mapes..

look..I will only partake in these discussions if you all will keep it civil..period....

seems the attacking/mocking of my views here sorta proves my point on who is tolerant...right?
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« Reply #38 on: September 29, 2010, 11:22:41 AM »
The Dems/Libs always want CONTROL... so they can control what is "valid News" and what is the propoganda they want you to injest as the "so called truth"..

this is very scary..

Only the Dems and Libs want control?  Hmmm....interesting.

prove otherwise?

Errrrr ... it was Bush who created the Patriot Act, a major grab of governmental power and control.

I didnt hear GWB complaining about MSNBC, CNN, BBC, CNBC, CBS, Dan Rather or Mapes..

Wot? Bush was on a constant rant about the media, and how it was full of "activists".

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« Reply #39 on: September 29, 2010, 11:24:01 AM »
The Dems/Libs always want CONTROL... so they can control what is "valid News" and what is the propoganda they want you to injest as the "so called truth"..

this is very scary..

Only the Dems and Libs want control?  Hmmm....interesting.

prove otherwise?

Errrrr ... it was Bush who created the Patriot Act.

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and what liberty did you lose under it?
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« Reply #40 on: September 29, 2010, 11:24:42 AM »
This is ridiculous. EPICVIEW, if you don't see a problem with the Patriot Act and think Bush didn't complain about the media, there's no point in continuing this "discussion".

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« Reply #41 on: September 29, 2010, 11:30:32 AM »
This is ridiculous. EPICVIEW, if you don't see a problem with the Patriot Act and think Bush didn't complain about the media, there's no point in continuing this "discussion".

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dont ya think that as the President that if he didnt protect us ( job #1 of the President) that he would have been crucified by not starting the HSA and the Patriot act? and again..what is the issue with it? not one American lost a liberty under it.. but it was useful in the stopping of two huge terrorist attacks after 9/11...

if ony Clinton did his job, maybe 9/11 would have been foiled after the first attack on the WTC. people died becasue Clinton ws a LOUSE


but Carnivore by Clinton was OK??
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« Reply #42 on: September 29, 2010, 11:34:51 AM »
This is ridiculous. EPICVIEW, if you don't see a problem with the Patriot Act and think Bush didn't complain about the media, there's no point in continuing this "discussion".

rumborak


dont ya think that as the President that if he didnt protect us ( job #1 of the President) that he would have been crucified by not starting the HSA and the Patriot act? and again..what is the issue with it? not one American lost a liberty under it.. but it was useful in the stopping of two huge terrorist attacks after 9/11...

if ony Clinton did his job, maybe 9/11 would have been foiled after the first attack on the WTC. people died becasue Clinton ws a LOUSE


but Carnivore by Clinton was OK??

Every time someone brings up "Never Enough", the terrorists win.

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« Reply #43 on: September 29, 2010, 11:35:30 AM »
can anyone show me where GWB "complained " about the media.. they were RUTHLESS on him..

I NEVER saw GWB say he wanted a station censored or would not meet with them...or call them " a non news station" like obama just did yesterday with Fox News..?? Obama just did this yesterday!!! His skin is so thin its opaque
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« Reply #44 on: September 29, 2010, 11:36:33 AM »
This is ridiculous. EPICVIEW, if you don't see a problem with the Patriot Act and think Bush didn't complain about the media, there's no point in continuing this "discussion".

rumborak


dont ya think that as the President that if he didnt protect us ( job #1 of the President) that he would have been crucified by not starting the HSA and the Patriot act? and again..what is the issue with it? not one American lost a liberty under it.. but it was useful in the stopping of two huge terrorist attacks after 9/11...

if ony Clinton did his job, maybe 9/11 would have been foiled after the first attack on the WTC. people died becasue Clinton ws a LOUSE


but Carnivore by Clinton was OK??





again ...that response does not hold water..
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« Reply #45 on: September 29, 2010, 11:36:40 AM »
and again..what is the issue with it?

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The Act dramatically reduced restrictions on law enforcement agencies' ability to search telephone, e-mail communications, medical, financial, and other records; eased restrictions on foreign intelligence gathering within the United States; expanded the Secretary of the Treasury’s authority to regulate financial transactions, particularly those involving foreign individuals and entities; and broadened the discretion of law enforcement and immigration authorities in detaining and deporting immigrants suspected of terrorism-related acts. The act also expanded the definition of terrorism to include domestic terrorism, thus enlarging the number of activities to which the USA PATRIOT Act’s expanded law enforcement powers could be applied.

I guess you have no issue with anything, as long as it was issued by a Republican. When a Democrat does something, it must be evil, socialist, subversive, whatever.

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« Reply #46 on: September 29, 2010, 11:37:43 AM »
This is ridiculous. EPICVIEW, if you don't see a problem with the Patriot Act and think Bush didn't complain about the media, there's no point in continuing this "discussion".

rumborak


dont ya think that as the President that if he didnt protect us ( job #1 of the President) that he would have been crucified by not starting the HSA and the Patriot act? and again..what is the issue with it? not one American lost a liberty under it.. but it was useful in the stopping of two huge terrorist attacks after 9/11...

if ony Clinton did his job, maybe 9/11 would have been foiled after the first attack on the WTC. people died becasue Clinton ws a LOUSE


but Carnivore by Clinton was OK??





again ...that response does not hold water..
It holds more water than any argument you've made.
Every time someone brings up "Never Enough", the terrorists win.

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« Reply #47 on: September 29, 2010, 11:38:04 AM »
can anyone show me where GWB "complained " about the media.. they were RUTHLESS on him..

I NEVER saw GWB say he wanted a station censored or would not meet with them...or call them " a non news station" like obama just did yesterday with Fox News..?? Obama just did this yesterday!!!

Are you really defending FOX right now? You know, usually even the most die-hard Republicans on this forum shy away from associating themselves with it, since they too know it's a piece of shit.

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« Reply #48 on: September 29, 2010, 11:38:25 AM »
and again..what is the issue with it?

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The Act dramatically reduced restrictions on law enforcement agencies' ability to search telephone, e-mail communications, medical, financial, and other records; eased restrictions on foreign intelligence gathering within the United States; expanded the Secretary of the Treasury’s authority to regulate financial transactions, particularly those involving foreign individuals and entities; and broadened the discretion of law enforcement and immigration authorities in detaining and deporting immigrants suspected of terrorism-related acts. The act also expanded the definition of terrorism to include domestic terrorism, thus enlarging the number of activities to which the USA PATRIOT Act’s expanded law enforcement powers could be applied.

I guess you have no issue with anything, as long as it was issued by a Republican. When a Democrat does something, it must be evil, socialist, subversive, whatever.

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again.. what liberty did you lose? how did it effect you.. I can prove it helped defeat two attacks on our country..
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« Reply #49 on: September 29, 2010, 11:39:58 AM »
can anyone show me where GWB "complained " about the media.. they were RUTHLESS on him..

I NEVER saw GWB say he wanted a station censored or would not meet with them...or call them " a non news station" like obama just did yesterday with Fox News..?? Obama just did this yesterday!!!

Are you really defending FOX right now? You know, usually even the most die-hard Republicans on this forum shy away from associating themselves with it, since they too know it's a piece of shit.

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sure.. what News do you watch? Maddow and Olberman ..LOL does another veiw scare you? and why does Fox rule in the ratings?
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« Reply #50 on: September 29, 2010, 11:41:45 AM »
I just have to say it: EPICFAIL.

Dude, you're defending FOX by appealing to its ratings. Booya. That's like saying hamburgers are clearly the best food for you because so many people eat it.

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« Reply #51 on: September 29, 2010, 11:41:48 AM »
can anyone show me where GWB "complained " about the media.. they were RUTHLESS on him..

I NEVER saw GWB say he wanted a station censored or would not meet with them...or call them " a non news station" like obama just did yesterday with Fox News..?? Obama just did this yesterday!!!

Are you really defending FOX right now? You know, usually even the most die-hard Republicans on this forum shy away from associating themselves with it, since they too know it's a piece of shit.

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sure.. what News do you watch? Maddow and Olberman ..LOL does another veiw scare you? and why does Fox rule in the ratings?
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« Reply #52 on: September 29, 2010, 11:43:20 AM »
so if Chairman Obama says 'Fox no good" we should just bow to his wishes...

sorry...that BS aint for me..  I form my views..I research the merit of what is valid..
 Fox reports News and does it quite well.... any objective ratring of Fox shows they are FAIR with time for opposing views.. even though many times the Dem will not go on to debate their views for fear of getting exposed..as its COOL to just slag FOX and have it as the Boogieman...
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« Reply #53 on: September 29, 2010, 11:44:31 AM »
so if Chairman Obama says 'Fox no good" we should just bow to his wishes...

sorry...that BS aint for me..  I form my views..I research the merit of what is valid..
 Fox reports News and does it quite well.... any objective ratring of Fox shows they are FAIR with time for opposing views.. even though many times the Dem will not go on to debate their views for fear of getting exposed..as its COOL to just slag FOX and have it as the Boogieman...
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« Reply #54 on: September 29, 2010, 11:46:22 AM »
I just have to say it: EPICFAIL.

Dude, you're defending FOX by appealing to its ratings. Booya. That's like saying hamburgers are clearly the best food for you because so many people eat it.

rumborak



I have to say it again.. you are not making a salient point.. just going for the name calling.. why??


Is your point that the masses and MAJORITY of the USA is "too stoopid" to get the "highbrow slagging of halfwits like Maddow and Olberman? who do not deal in reality?


why do you think NBC and CNN just fired their Presiednts this week..the people have spoken
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« Reply #55 on: September 29, 2010, 11:46:32 AM »
sorry...that BS aint for me..  I form my views..I research the merit of what is valid..
 Fox reports News and does it quite well.... any objective ratring of Fox shows they are FAIR with time for opposing views..

Even though I know you aren't, I now concluded that you're a troll.

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Re: Congress Debating Making U.S. Like China by Creating Internet Blacklist
« Reply #56 on: September 29, 2010, 11:47:02 AM »
so if Chairman Obama says 'Fox no good" we should just bow to his wishes...

sorry...that BS aint for me..  I form my views..I research the merit of what is valid..
 Fox reports News and does it quite well.... any objective ratring of Fox shows they are FAIR with time for opposing views.. even though many times the Dem will not go on to debate their views for fear of getting exposed..as its COOL to just slag FOX and have it as the Boogieman...
Now, I don't live in America so I have no idea if Obama said Fox was a terrible news channel or not but the few times that I've been in America and watched Fox, I always thought "This is an awful news channel".

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« Reply #57 on: September 29, 2010, 11:47:30 AM »
so if Chairman Obama says 'Fox no good" we should just bow to his wishes...

sorry...that BS aint for me..  I form my views..I research the merit of what is valid..
 Fox reports News and does it quite well.... any objective ratring of Fox shows they are FAIR with time for opposing views.. even though many times the Dem will not go on to debate their views for fear of getting exposed..as its COOL to just slag FOX and have it as the Boogieman...
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« Reply #58 on: September 29, 2010, 11:49:24 AM »
FEAR MONGERING TO BACK DOWN DISSENT

THUG IN CHIEF OBAMA: FOX NEWS IS “DESTRUCTIVE”
Posted by Jim Hoft on Tuesday, September 28, 2010, 10:28 AM
President Obama attacked the most-watched cable news outlet in the nation today calling it “destructive.”

Unreal.
CBS reported:

In this month’s cover story for Rolling Stone magazine, President Obama weighs in on the cable network Fox News, saying that while he can’t object to the network carrying out its constitutional right to freedom of the press, he thinks it promotes a perspective that is “ultimately destructive for the long-term growth” of America.

“Look, as president, I swore to uphold the Constitution, and part of that Constitution is a free press,” Obama laughed, in response to a question from Rolling Stone publisher Jann Wenner about whether or not Fox News was “a good institution for America and for democracy.”

“We’ve got a tradition in this country of a press that oftentimes is opinionated. The golden age of an objective press was a pretty narrow span of time in our history. Before that, you had folks like Hearst who used their newspapers very intentionally to promote their viewpoints,” Mr. Obama said. “I think Fox is part of that tradition — it is part of the tradition that has a very clear, undeniable point of view.”

Mr. Obama, whose relationship with the cable network has in the past been rocky — former White House communications director Anita Dunn at one point called it “the communications arm of the Republican party” — made no concessions in regard to his dissatisfaction for the content of the network’s coverage.

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« Reply #59 on: September 29, 2010, 11:50:26 AM »
sorry...that BS aint for me..  I form my views..I research the merit of what is valid..
 Fox reports News and does it quite well.... any objective ratring of Fox shows they are FAIR with time for opposing views..

Even though I know you aren't, I now concluded that you're a troll.

rumborak

I came to that conclusion a long time ago, he's simply too good at this not to be one.

so if Chairman Obama says 'Fox no good" we should just bow to his wishes...

sorry...that BS aint for me..  I form my views..I research the merit of what is valid..
 Fox reports News and does it quite well.... any objective ratring of Fox shows they are FAIR with time for opposing views.. even though many times the Dem will not go on to debate their views for fear of getting exposed..as its COOL to just slag FOX and have it as the Boogieman...
Have you ever considered stand-up comedy? You'd be a hoot!

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« Reply #60 on: September 29, 2010, 11:50:52 AM »
sorry...that BS aint for me..  I form my views..I research the merit of what is valid..
 Fox reports News and does it quite well.... any objective ratring of Fox shows they are FAIR with time for opposing views..

Even though I know you aren't, I now concluded that you're a troll.

rumborak


no need to name call.. make your point with facts and I will do the same
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« Reply #61 on: September 29, 2010, 11:50:54 AM »
https://gothamist.com/2008/07/02/was_fox_news_trying_to_make_ny_time.php

That's the level of journalism of FOX in general.

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Re: Congress Debating Making U.S. Like China by Creating Internet Blacklist
« Reply #62 on: September 29, 2010, 11:51:31 AM »
so if Chairman Obama says 'Fox no good" we should just bow to his wishes...

sorry...that BS aint for me..  I form my views..I research the merit of what is valid..
 Fox reports News and does it quite well.... any objective ratring of Fox shows they are FAIR with time for opposing views.. even though many times the Dem will not go on to debate their views for fear of getting exposed..as its COOL to just slag FOX and have it as the Boogieman...
Now, I don't live in America so I have no idea if Obama said Fox was a terrible news channel or not but the few times that I've been in America and watched Fox, I always thought "This is an awful news channel".

Seriously, once someone left Fox on the TV at work, so I watched Glenn Beck for about 5 minute on my break and I felt like sticking my head in the microwave.


And...what the fuck, Epicview? Nothing he said in that article was unreasonable. He's saying that Fox has a clear right leaning bias. Just like MSNBC has a clear left leaning bias. I think you just have trouble detecting Fox's bias because you agree with them.

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« Reply #63 on: September 29, 2010, 11:51:42 AM »
sorry...that BS aint for me..  I form my views..I research the merit of what is valid..
 Fox reports News and does it quite well.... any objective ratring of Fox shows they are FAIR with time for opposing views..

Even though I know you aren't, I now concluded that you're a troll.

rumborak

I came to that conclusion a long time ago, he's simply too good at this not to be one.

so if Chairman Obama says 'Fox no good" we should just bow to his wishes...

sorry...that BS aint for me..  I form my views..I research the merit of what is valid..
 Fox reports News and does it quite well.... any objective ratring of Fox shows they are FAIR with time for opposing views.. even though many times the Dem will not go on to debate their views for fear of getting exposed..as its COOL to just slag FOX and have it as the Boogieman...
Have you ever considered stand-up comedy? You'd be a hoot!

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« Reply #64 on: September 29, 2010, 11:53:59 AM »
 :lol

It's people like you that make me thankful I don't live in the US.

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« Reply #65 on: September 29, 2010, 11:54:25 AM »
https://gothamist.com/2008/07/02/was_fox_news_trying_to_make_ny_time.php

That's the level of journalism of FOX in general.

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say huh? The NY Times is going out of business( thank god)... they are complete Yellow Journalism..cmon.. they dont even fake being objective..too funny
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« Reply #66 on: September 29, 2010, 11:54:33 AM »
I think the best part is that you, EPICVIEW, just yesterday proclaimed to me via PM that you consider many of the views on this board as juvenile, and that your views are "vetted and formed".
Usually I don't disclose people's PMs, but your shitfest here just calls for it.

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« Reply #67 on: September 29, 2010, 11:55:18 AM »
sorry...that BS aint for me..  I form my views..I research the merit of what is valid..
 Fox reports News and does it quite well.... any objective ratring of Fox shows they are FAIR with time for opposing views..

Even though I know you aren't, I now concluded that you're a troll.

rumborak

I came to that conclusion a long time ago, he's simply too good at this not to be one.

so if Chairman Obama says 'Fox no good" we should just bow to his wishes...

sorry...that BS aint for me..  I form my views..I research the merit of what is valid..
 Fox reports News and does it quite well.... any objective ratring of Fox shows they are FAIR with time for opposing views.. even though many times the Dem will not go on to debate their views for fear of getting exposed..as its COOL to just slag FOX and have it as the Boogieman...
Have you ever considered stand-up comedy? You'd be a hoot!

I leave the job for Obama
Yeah but he's still got a country to run. You don't have the same excuse ;)

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If the republicans had their way, yes.
Every time someone brings up "Never Enough", the terrorists win.

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« Reply #68 on: September 29, 2010, 11:56:25 AM »
:lol

It's people like you that make me thankful I don't live in the US.


You better hope your country doesnt need the USA, becasue Obama dont think anything is worth fighting for ... so I pray your country will never need our boots on the ground
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Re: Congress Debating Making U.S. Like China by Creating Internet Blacklist
« Reply #69 on: September 29, 2010, 11:58:47 AM »
I think the best part is that you, EPICVIEW, just yesterday proclaimed to me via PM that you consider many of the views on this board as juvenile, and that your views are "vetted and formed".
Usually I don't disclose people's PMs, but your shitfest here just calls for it.

rumborak


I never said that..I said that I feel " I have a disconnect in poiltics with this group becasue I am older then what I percieve is a young group here"...

why cant you just stay on subject?? and debate the issues and news...?

"its so relieving to know that your leaving as soon as you get paid, Its so relaxing to know that your asking now that you got your way"