Congress Debating Making U.S. Like China by Creating Internet Blacklist

[EPICVIEW]

EPICVIEW:

Great troll or greatest troll?

I dont get it? what am I doing that you would say that? Im enjoying the subject..granted we are off topic and I have tried to get it back on subject a few times...

[Adami]

EPICVIEW:

Great troll or greatest troll?

I dont get it? what am I doing that you would say that? Im enjoying the subject..granted we are off topic and I have tried to get it back on subject a few times...

Actually this is true, I did see at least once that you tried to bring us back to the original topic. Kudos.

[EPICVIEW]

EPICVIEW:

Great troll or greatest troll?

I dont get it? what am I doing that you would say that? Im enjoying the subject..granted we are off topic and I have tried to get it back on subject a few times...

Actually this is true, I did see at least once that you tried to bring us back to the original topic. Kudos.

thank you Adami

[Adami]

Back to the original topic. Limiting the internet in any way is just a bad idea. It's damn near impossible to be precise and accurate, the only actions have to be broad and large, which will end up doing more harm than good. I know you guys think the idea of someone being able to download a picture of a naked child is worse than murdering someone, but I'd rather have those people get away with it than everyone to lose the freedom they enjoy.

[EPICVIEW]

I agree that the net shoudl NOT be censored by the Goverment...and Honestly, Obama has shown some bad tendencies with the Fairness Doctrine and the Net Neutrality issue they feel "they should control"
and hence control the "message"... very scary when looked at with objectivity

[Seventh Son]

EPICVIEW:

Great troll or greatest troll?

I think neither. Perhaps.....

EPICTROLL

[Adami]

Come on.

[Seventh Son]

Come on.

Was that directed at me?

[Adami]

Come on.

Was that directed at me?

Yes.

[El Barto]

To be fair,  while I find Epicview's views to fall somewhere between misguided and fucking delusional, he's been far more civil and respectful to others than what he's received; and I include myself in that.  People who flippantly write him off as a troll aren't looking real good either, at this point. 

[Seventh Son]

To be fair,  while I find Epicview's views to fall somewhere between misguided and fucking delusional, he's been far more civil and respectful to others than what he's received; and I include myself in that.  People who flippantly write him off as a troll aren't looking real good either, at this point. 

Except he hasn't.

[Nigerius Rex]

Reading back it seems like he took the the first insults and simply went along with it. I disagree with the guy and think hes a little weird, but barto is right when he says that he has been civil.

[EPICVIEW]

To be fair,  while I find Epicview's views to fall somewhere between misguided and fucking delusional, he's been far more civil and respectful to others than what he's received; and I include myself in that.  People who flippantly write him off as a troll aren't looking real good either, at this point.  

Thank You EB... Im always civil as I have no problem discussing the subjects, I am not a troll ( lol..Im not sure what is but I assume its not a good thing,,,, wait if troll means a " a person who makes typos." then maybe I am one..lol)

next we gotta figure out why my views are not being embraced..

I have a thick skin...its all good..I know you all are friends and there is no reason to stress..I like to have fun...

[Perpetual Change]

Did not read the whole thread.

However, before Obama, GWB was the most liberal president EVER in terms of spending and government control.

[icysk8r]

I'm reporting the next person who calls EPICVIEW a troll.  So far he hasn't said anything in this thread that deems him troll-worthy.  It seems to me he is strong in his beliefs and because some people disagree with him they want to call him a troll... Knock it off.

[Adami]

I'm reporting the next person who calls EPICVIEW a troll.  So far he hasn't said anything in this thread that deems him troll-worthy.  It seems to me he is strong in his beliefs and because some people disagree with him they want to call him a troll... Knock it off.

lol, a little late but good for you bud.

[icysk8r]

I'm reporting the next person who calls EPICVIEW a troll.  So far he hasn't said anything in this thread that deems him troll-worthy.  It seems to me he is strong in his beliefs and because some people disagree with him they want to call him a troll... Knock it off.

lol, a little late but good for you bud.

Yes, I suppose I am a bit late.

As far as the OP goes, if I'm opposed to obscenity laws, I'm definitely opposed to this.  Who then gets to decide what sites are okay for viewing?  Take my school as an extreme example:  There are perfectly educational sites we CAN NOT go on because of what the board decides is appropriate.  We could be searching for the gestation period of hippopotamuses and it will come up as "WARNING: SEX. PLEASE CONTACT YOUR LOCAL ADMINISTRATOR DERP"
My point is, it can get out of hand.  While at first maybe they block sites that are definitely illegal, then they block things that are borderline... next thing you know we can't go on Facebook, Youtube, or even DTF.

[Perpetual Change]

I'm reporting the next person who calls EPICVIEW a troll.  So far he hasn't said anything in this thread that deems him troll-worthy.  It seems to me he is strong in his beliefs and because some people disagree with him they want to call him a troll... Knock it off.

Saying these kinds of things doesn't make the mods want you to become one of them, you know 

[Chino]

I'm reporting the next person who calls EPICVIEW a troll.  So far he hasn't said anything in this thread that deems him troll-worthy.  It seems to me he is strong in his beliefs and because some people disagree with him they want to call him a troll... Knock it off.

lol, a little late but good for you bud.

Yes, I suppose I am a bit late.

As far as the OP goes, if I'm opposed to obscenity laws, I'm definitely opposed to this.  Who then gets to decide what sites are okay for viewing?  Take my school as an extreme example:  There are perfectly educational sites we CAN NOT go on because of what the board decides is appropriate.  We could be searching for the gestation period of hippopotamuses and it will come up as "WARNING: SEX. PLEASE CONTACT YOUR LOCAL ADMINISTRATOR DERP"
My point is, it can get out of hand.  While at first maybe they block sites that are definitely illegal, then they block things that are borderline... next thing you know we can't go on Facebook, Youtube, or even DTF.

I used not be able to access www.imageshack.us for pornography reasons...

[Seventh Son]

I'm reporting the next person who calls EPICVIEW a troll.  So far he hasn't said anything in this thread that deems him troll-worthy.  It seems to me he is strong in his beliefs and because some people disagree with him they want to call him a troll... Knock it off.

I'm taking it you've never argued with a troll before? Because its all the same signs. Someone comes in and derails the thread and then responds to everything with insane, bullshit logic that makes no sense at all. I'm sorry, I've seen too many goddamn trolls in my life to know when I see one, and I see a troll here.

Report me if you like Icy, doesn't change the fact that every response he's made is one I'd expect out of a pro-conservative troll.

Oh yeah, and I think he's a troll. u mad?

[XJDenton]

Knock it off.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitlehkm94ato?from=Main.PoesLaw

[EPICVIEW]

I'm reporting the next person who calls EPICVIEW a troll.  So far he hasn't said anything in this thread that deems him troll-worthy.  It seems to me he is strong in his beliefs and because some people disagree with him they want to call him a troll... Knock it off.

I'm taking it you've never argued with a troll before? Because its all the same signs. Someone comes in and derails the thread and then responds to everything with insane, bullshit logic that makes no sense at all. I'm sorry, I've seen too many goddamn trolls in my life to know when I see one, and I see a troll here.

Report me if you like Icy, doesn't change the fact that every response he's made is one I'd expect out of a pro-conservative troll.

Oh yeah, and I think he's a troll. u mad?

again, what is your issue with me? Im not following your logic, Im just a good guy who has views about my country and I was on subject ..until I was made to have to defend myself.  All I can see is that you dont like my views, and somehow that offends you?

[Seventh Son]

Knock it off.

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/ptitlehkm94ato?from=Main.PoesLaw

I'm reporting the next person who calls EPICVIEW a troll.  So far he hasn't said anything in this thread that deems him troll-worthy.  It seems to me he is strong in his beliefs and because some people disagree with him they want to call him a troll... Knock it off.

I'm taking it you've never argued with a troll before? Because its all the same signs. Someone comes in and derails the thread and then responds to everything with insane, bullshit logic that makes no sense at all. I'm sorry, I've seen too many goddamn trolls in my life to know when I see one, and I see a troll here.

Report me if you like Icy, doesn't change the fact that every response he's made is one I'd expect out of a pro-conservative troll.

Oh yeah, and I think he's a troll. u mad?

again, what is your issue with me? Im not following your logic, Im just a good guy who has views about my country and I was on subject ..until I was made to have to defend myself.  All I can see is that you dont like my views, and somehow that offends you?

Because every argument you've made boils down to "THOSE GODDAMN LIBERALS ARE SO EVIL I HATE THEM THEY ALL HATE AMERICA SO MUCH". Trust me bro, you're not the first person to ever be a conservative troll. You act and post in a very similar fashion to ones I've met before, thus I have no choice but to conclude that you are simply a troll.

[EPICVIEW]

sigh^... it seems to me that you have no tolerance to allow others to have their views. I'm allowed to worry about where the Lib/Dems are leading us, thats a VERY valid concern within the USA today as every poll is telling us and the state of the country since the Dems took over congress 4 years ago.

sadly you prove my point of how Liberals are intolerant and deal in hypocrisy of saying they are for "freedom for all" but really want to control of all opinions and they will annoint what opinion will be deamed worthy

AND THATS THE SUBJECT OF THIS THREAD!!!! you are proving my point!!
My concern is valid and very much based on reality.

[Seventh Son]

sigh^... it seems to me that you have no tolerance to allow others to have their views. I'm allowed to worry baout where the Lib/Dems are leading us, thats a VERY valid concern within the USA today as every poll is telling us and the state of the country since the Dems took over congress 4 years ago.

sadly you prove my point of how Liberals are intolerant and deal in hypocrisy of saying they are for "fredom for all" but really want to control of all opinions and they will annoint what opinion will be deamed worthy

AND THATS THE SUBJECT OF THIS THREAD!!!! you are proving my point!!
My concern is valid and very much based on reality.

And arguments like this are why I think you are a troll. I'm not bashing you for having conservative views. I'm bashing you because your points are all insane bullshit that makes no sense at all and then go defend Fox news as a legitimate news source (Despite the source you showed apparently was funded by pro-conservative groups....).

I have friends who are conservatives, I have no problems with them. They know fox news is a piece of shit and don't bother with it. They don't suddenly start screaming "THE LIBERALS ARE COMING, THE LIBERALS ARE COMING", they discuss their political views rationally.

[EPICVIEW]

^ again, just because Im not "in lock step with you" you have annointed your views SUPERIOR, and again judge mine as inferior...

I dont care about what yoru friends think.. with all due respect. its moot to me.

It appears to me that you have some sort of issue with those who disagree with you and you want to CONTROL what I can feel , think , or believe.  

You come off as nothing but hostile and judgemental...You do NOT know me..and its not fair of you to continue to slag me.  I have NOT done this on your views, nor do I judge you.

You make these allegations about my posts.. quote the ones you think are "outragous" I dont see it?? I have discussed my views succinctly. I can tell you can not counter them without name calling..

[Chino]

/ argument.

continue thread.

[EPICVIEW]

^ im not arguing Im trying to explain and find out why this guy wont let off my neck with the "calling me a "troll". 

Its depressing..

[Seventh Son]

^ again, just because Im not "in lock step with you" you have annointed your views SUPERIOR, and again judge mine as inferior...

I dont care about what yoru friends think.. with all due respect. its moot to me.

It appears to me that you have some sort of issue with those who disagree with you and you want to CONTROL what I can feel , think , or believe. 

You come off as nothing but hostile and judgemental...You do NOT know me..and its not fair of you to continue to slag me.  I have NOT done this on your views, nor do I judge you.

lmao

At no point did I ever state my views were superior to yours, you simply assumed that because everyone was calling you out for your insane logic. It isn't judgmental to call someone out for saying something that appears illogical. If I told you the sky was red, I would expect you to laugh and tell me its blue and that I would have to be nuts to think that.

That's what I'm getting at. In fact, you simply resign yourself to calling everyone judgmental because you can't accept that your views make no sense at all. None. And its all because of "The Liberals" that your points are insane, right? Its not that they don't make sense, its just liberal brainwashing, m i rite?

[GuineaPig]

Because every argument you've made boils down to "THOSE GODDAMN LIBERALS ARE SO EVIL I HATE THEM THEY ALL HATE AMERICA SO MUCH". Trust me bro, you're not the first person to ever be a conservative troll. You act and post in a very similar fashion to ones I've met before, thus I have no choice but to conclude that you are simply a troll.

sigh^... it seems to me that you have no tolerance to allow others to have their views. I'm allowed to worry about where the Lib/Dems are leading us, thats a VERY valid concern within the USA today as every poll is telling us and the state of the country since the Dems took over congress 4 years ago.

sadly you prove my point of how Liberals are intolerant and deal in hypocrisy of saying they are for "freedom for all" but really want to control of all opinions and they will annoint what opinion will be deamed worthy

AND THATS THE SUBJECT OF THIS THREAD!!!! you are proving my point!!
My concern is valid and very much based on reality.

Responses like this is why I think Epicview is a troll.  He plays the victim, while employing baseless, condescending, and generalizing arguments that he claims to oppose.

[El Barto]

sigh^... it seems to me that you have no tolerance to allow others to have their views. I'm allowed to worry about where the Lib/Dems are leading us, thats a VERY valid concern within the USA today as every poll is telling us and the state of the country since the Dems took over congress 4 years ago.

And the reason I and others think your views are disconnected with reality is because of statements like that.  You're going out of your way to blame things on one party while overlooking the flaws in your own.  You're blaming the mess on the democrats who took over 4 years ago.  I don't think you're capable of recognizing the devastation caused by 8 years of incompetent management by an ignorant man.  As much as you'd like to blame it on Clinton, Obama, and Reid/Pelosi,  your boy created this mess.  

[EPICVIEW]

EB, should we start a thread to discuss the misery index under Obama and Under GWB? and these sorta issues? as again we are off subject..

I could argue that GWB was the best President POST 9/11..

so whats it all mean?  thats the fascinating part..

[EPICVIEW]

Because every argument you've made boils down to "THOSE GODDAMN LIBERALS ARE SO EVIL I HATE THEM THEY ALL HATE AMERICA SO MUCH". Trust me bro, you're not the first person to ever be a conservative troll. You act and post in a very similar fashion to ones I've met before, thus I have no choice but to conclude that you are simply a troll.

sigh^... it seems to me that you have no tolerance to allow others to have their views. I'm allowed to worry about where the Lib/Dems are leading us, thats a VERY valid concern within the USA today as every poll is telling us and the state of the country since the Dems took over congress 4 years ago.

sadly you prove my point of how Liberals are intolerant and deal in hypocrisy of saying they are for "freedom for all" but really want to control of all opinions and they will annoint what opinion will be deamed worthy

AND THATS THE SUBJECT OF THIS THREAD!!!! you are proving my point!!
My concern is valid and very much based on reality.

Responses like this is why I think Epicview is a troll.  He plays the victim, while employing baseless, condescending, and generalizing arguments that he claims to oppose.

baseless? really? Im not playing the victim..just tired of the slaggin

[Seventh Son]

Because every argument you've made boils down to "THOSE GODDAMN LIBERALS ARE SO EVIL I HATE THEM THEY ALL HATE AMERICA SO MUCH". Trust me bro, you're not the first person to ever be a conservative troll. You act and post in a very similar fashion to ones I've met before, thus I have no choice but to conclude that you are simply a troll.

sigh^... it seems to me that you have no tolerance to allow others to have their views. I'm allowed to worry about where the Lib/Dems are leading us, thats a VERY valid concern within the USA today as every poll is telling us and the state of the country since the Dems took over congress 4 years ago.

sadly you prove my point of how Liberals are intolerant and deal in hypocrisy of saying they are for "freedom for all" but really want to control of all opinions and they will annoint what opinion will be deamed worthy

AND THATS THE SUBJECT OF THIS THREAD!!!! you are proving my point!!
My concern is valid and very much based on reality.

Responses like this is why I think Epicview is a troll.  He plays the victim, while employing baseless, condescending, and generalizing arguments that he claims to oppose.

baseless? really? Im not playing the victim..just tired of the slaggin

Your previous posts say otherwise.

[EPICVIEW]

Because every argument you've made boils down to "THOSE GODDAMN LIBERALS ARE SO EVIL I HATE THEM THEY ALL HATE AMERICA SO MUCH". Trust me bro, you're not the first person to ever be a conservative troll. You act and post in a very similar fashion to ones I've met before, thus I have no choice but to conclude that you are simply a troll.

sigh^... it seems to me that you have no tolerance to allow others to have their views. I'm allowed to worry about where the Lib/Dems are leading us, thats a VERY valid concern within the USA today as every poll is telling us and the state of the country since the Dems took over congress 4 years ago.

sadly you prove my point of how Liberals are intolerant and deal in hypocrisy of saying they are for "freedom for all" but really want to control of all opinions and they will annoint what opinion will be deamed worthy

AND THATS THE SUBJECT OF THIS THREAD!!!! you are proving my point!!
My concern is valid and very much based on reality.

Responses like this is why I think Epicview is a troll.  He plays the victim, while employing baseless, condescending, and generalizing arguments that he claims to oppose.

baseless? really? Im not playing the victim..just tired of the slaggin

Your previous posts say otherwise.

they do not... you just dont like my views...and want them to be gone..you have been nothing but hostile in reality