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The MP/DT Reference Thread
« on: September 11, 2010, 07:49:03 AM »
As most reading this know, Mike Portnoy, a founding member and driving force of Dream Theater to this point recently left the band. The function of this thread is to provide an archive of what has happened up to this point, as well as be a reference material to those looking to discuss what has happened, leading them to the proper threads and keeping them from starting unneeded threads. All times are local to the band, East Coast USA.

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At approximately 8:20pm on the evening of September 8th, 2010 Mike Portnoy released the following statement via facebook, twitter, and MikePortnoy.com.

Quote from: Mike Portnoy
I am about to write something I never imagined I'd ever write:

After 25 years, I have decided to leave Dream Theater....the band I founded, led and truly loved for a quarter of a century.
 
To many people this will come as a complete shock, and will also likely be misunderstood by some, but please believe me that it is not a hasty decision...it is something I have struggled with for the last year or so....

After having had such amazing experiences playing with Hail, Transatlantic and Avenged Sevenfold this past year, I have sadly come to the conclusion that I have recently had more fun and better personal relations with these other projects than I have for a while now in Dream Theater...
 
Please don't misinterpret me, I love the DT guys dearly and have a long history, friendship and bond that runs incredibly deep with them...it's just that I think we are in serious need of a little break...

Dream Theater was always my baby...and I nurtured that baby every single day and waking moment of my life since 1985...24/7, 365...never taking time off from DT's never-ending responsibilites (even when the band was "off" between cycles)...working overtime and way beyond the call of duty that most sane people ever would do for a band...

But I've come to the conclusion that the DT machine was starting to burn me out...and I really needed a break from the band in order to save my relationship with the other members and keep my DT spirit hungry and inspired.

We have been on an endless write/record/tour cycle for almost 20 years now (of which I have overseen EVERY aspect without a break) and while a few months apart from each other here & there over the years has been much needed and helpful, I honestly hoped the band could simply agree with me to taking a bit of a "hiatus" to recharge our batteries and "save me from ourselves"...
 
Sadly, in discussing this with the guys, they determined they do not share my feelings and have decided to continue without me rather than take a breather...I even offered to do some occasional work throughout 2011 against my initial wishes, but it was not to be...

While it truly hurts for me to even think of a Dream Theater without Mike Portnoy (hell, my father named the band!!), I do not want to stand in their way...so I have decided to sacrifice myself and simply leave the band so as to not hold them back against their wishes....
 
Strangely enough, I just read an interview that I recently did that asked me about the future of DT and I talked about "always following your heart and being true to yourself"...sadly I must say that at this particular moment, my heart is not with Dream Theater...and I would simply be "going through the motions", and would honestly NOT be true to myself if I stayed for the sake of obligation without taking the break I felt I needed.
 
I wish the guys the best and hope the music and legacy we created together is enjoyed by fans for decades to come...I am proud of every album we made, every song we wrote and every show we played....

I'm sorry to all the disappointed DT fans around the world...I really tried to salvage the situation and make it work...I honestly just wanted a break (not a split)...but happiness cannot be forced, it needs to come from within....

You DT fans are the greatest fans in the world and as you all know, I have always busted my ass for you guys and I hope that you will stay with me on my future musical journey, wherever it may lead me....(and as you all know my work ethic, there will surely be no shortage of future MP projects!)

Sadly...
Your fearless ex-leader and drummer,
MP

First reactions to this news and discussion of the initial statement can be found here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=16386.0#quickreply

At 8:49pm on September 8th, in the midst of the fan frenzy over the news, the user Rainee at Petrucci's forum, believed to be JP's wife, Rena Petrucci made the following statement.

Quote from: Rena Petrucci
Quote from: ShreDApprenticE
Am I the only one that can see MP in a band other than DT, but no one else? Sure, Jordan could be in whatever thing he wants to be, but of the remaining founding members, I can't see them doing anything OTHER than DT... I'm pretty that their decision to go on without him (once confirmed) will end up shafting them WAY more than taking a long hiatus. Regardless, MP is going to make like a bandit.

Silly poster...John wrote every song with the exception of one "New Millenium"
John and Jordan who never get any credit ARE the heart and soul of DT and it is sad that Mike has quit because he is awesome but just remember...he quit. The only people being shafted are the remaining members of DT.

The thread this comment, and several other less important comments were made by Rena can be found here: https://www.petrucciforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70293&page=5

Our discussion of this starts here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=16386.msg587386#msg5873

Note: Rena made these comments prior to some later events, however there was a lag between the time the comments were made and when the DT community at large was informed that it actually was Rena via posts at Mike Portnoy's forum. This caused discussion of these comments to lag behind other events.

Then, at approximately 10:40pm on September 8th, the band posted a statement via the website of James LaBrie that read as follows.

Quote from: Dream Theater
DREAM THEATER
Press Release
To all of our loyal fans and friends: It is with
profound sadness -- regret -- we announce that Mike
Portnoy, our lifelong drummer and friend, has
decided to leave Dream Theater. Mike's stature in
the band has meant the world to all of us
professionally, musically, and personally over the
years. There is no dispute: Mike has been a major
force within this band.

While it is true that Mike is choosing to pursue other
ventures and challenges, we can assure you
that Dream Theater will continue to move forward
with the same intensity -- and in the same musical
tradition -- that you have all helped make so
successful, and which is truly gratifying to us.
Fans and friends: File this episode under "Black
Clouds and Silver Linings."As planned, we begin
recording our newest album in January 2011, and
we'll follow that with a full-on world tour. "The Spirit
Carries On."

All of us in Dream Theater wholeheartedly wish Mike
the best on his musical journey. We have had a long
and meaningful career together. It is our true hope
that he finds all he is looking for, and that he
achieves the happiness he deserves. He will be
missed.


Discussion of that statement is in the same thread as above, but starts here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=16386.msg585536#msg585536

At 2:03am on September 9th Mike Portnoy made the following comment via twitter and facebook.

Quote from: Mike Portnoy
I BEG of the fans to please NOT hold [AVENGED SEVENFOLD] responsible for MY decision... They are just as shocked as you guys

Even if they were not responsible for Mike leaving Dream Theater there has been much speculation over whether or not Mike will end up joining the band full time or ever come back to Dream Theater, and those two topics can be discussed here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=16460.0

At 1:11pm, September 9th Mike Portnoy linked to an article by Paul Gargano with no additional comments. This left fans not sure what Mike was trying to say about the article and clueless on what Mike was expressly supporting in the article. In any case here is the text of the article.

Quote from: Paul Gargano
I'm a big fan of irony.

Earlier this afternoon, I loaded the entire Dream Theater catalog onto my iPod. Until this afternoon, only two of the band's 10 studio albums were found on the 80GB drive. Why the sudden urge to drown myself in musical theory? Avenged Sevenfold.

A quick timeline: In 1985 - one year after the youngest member of the band Avenged Sevenfold is born - Mike Portnoy forms the band Majesty while attending the Berklee College of Music. Majesty would become Dream Theater.

Over the next quarter-century, Dream Theater would release ten studio albums and come to define the progressive metal genre. Likewise, Mike Portnoy is universally acknowledged as one of the greatest rock drummers of all time.

Avenged Sevenfold, meanwhile, burst from their Southern California roots and emerged as a hard rock and heavy metal powerhouse with City of Evil, their major label debut in 2005. When drummer Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan died of a drug overdose late last year, many wondered what would come next for the band - and in the most unlikely of announcements, Mike Portnoy was enlisted to record drums on new release Nightmare, as well as accompany them on this year's tours to support the album.

Earlier today, on Twitter, I said of the record: The new @TheOfficialA7X is musical quicksand - it's got me waist-deep and keeps pulling... (Pull me under, I'm not afraid.)

Absorbed in Nightmare, I was inspired to listen to more Dream Theater. Makes sense, right? Not to Dream Theater.

About five hours after my Twitter post and ensuing addition of the Dream Theater catalog to my iPod, Mike Portnoy announced that he was leaving Dream Theater [read his full statement here].

I've been a fan of Dream Theater for the past two decades, and at the forefront of that fandom have been Mike Portnoy and frontman James LaBrie. Portnoy was the band's heart, LaBrie the band's soul.

Science was never my strong suit in school, but I'm fairly certain that losing your heart isn't a good thing.

The journalist in me wants to wait to hear both sides of the story, but this is a rare instance where I feel justified to overrule my professional sensibilities. Or, as my career has paralleled that of Dream Theater, perhaps I'm honoring those sensibilities...

A number of people have asked me how this happened, as well as why it happened. While I don't know anything more than I read in Mike Portnoy's statement, I can say this - when I made the decision to leave Metal Edge, a magazine I dedicated my blood, sweat and tears into running for a decade, people asked the same questions.

Sadly, sometimes the decisions that are the hardest for us to make, are also the easiest. Not because we want to make them, but because we know that we need to make them. By the time I left Metal Edge, I knew that there was no other option. The magazine was destined to fail under its new ownership, and I realized that I was in no position to prevent that from happening.

Two years and three editors later, Metal Edge went out of business.

What does this have to do with Dream Theater? Everything. I can relate to Mike Portnoy's decision, because I know exactly how it feels to know that you're out of options.

And he was clearly out of options - you don't walk away unless you have no other choice.

So, yes, the irony isn't lost on me that on the day I plunged back into the swirling waters of Dream Theater, their drummer made the choice to climb out of the water and towel off.

I'm the first person in the world to defend Journey without Steve Perry, Van Halen after they hired Sammy Hagar, and KISS with only half their original members.

But Dream Theater without Mike Portnoy?

Where's the heart?

The original source of the article is here: https://paulgargano.blogspot.com/2010/09/mike-portnoy-quits-dream-theater-can.html

And our discussion of the article is here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=16434.0

At approximately 4:30pm on September 9th, Jordan Rudess posted the following video in which he played some improvisational piano to express his feelings about Mike's departure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgqm8g95wwI&feature=youtu.be&a

His comment on the video was as follows.
Quote from: Jordan Rudess
Everyone is asking me to comment on my thoughts about Mike Portnoy leaving Dream Theater and this huge change that has happened in all of our lives. I have always been able to express my feelings and do my best "talking" through music, so I decided to voice my statement in this improvisation. Hope you "understand"

Our discussion of this video can be found here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=16436.0
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Re: The MP/DT Reference Thread
« Reply #1 on: September 11, 2010, 09:33:49 AM »
At 6:29pm on September 9th Mike Portnoy tweeted the following.
Quote from: Mike Portnoy
Absolutely amazing recent MP interview that was just posted...hopefully this will put a smile on everyone's faces...

Although there is nothing in the interview about the coming split, some people have suggested there was writing on the wall in some of Mike's answers. The interview in question can be seen here: https://vimeo.com/14827294

Our discussion of the interview is here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=16439.0

At 7:51pm on September 9th John Petrucci opened a thread on his forum with the following message.

Quote from: John Petrucci
Obviously you've all heard the news of Mike's departure from Dream Theater by now.
I felt it important to open up a line of communication in an effort to kill any rumors and to promote clarity.
I love Mike and really hope he's happy and successful in whatever he does.
I realize that Mike was always the one to actively stay in touch with our fans, and I just wanted to let you know that I'm going to try to be at least a bit more present on both mine and DT's websites and to let you all know that I am here.
To me, Dream Theater's story is one of defying the odds, standing for true integrity in music and creating our own success through perseverance and hard work, so although Mike's leaving is heartbreaking, I still look forward to an amazing musical journey that continues on with some of the most talented and respected musicians and composers on the planet!
-JP

Following this statement John answered a series of questions in the thread, which can be seen here: https://www.petrucciforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70325

Our discussion of Petrucci's interaction can be found here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=16450.0

Finally, below is a summary of Petrucci's answers during the evening of September 9th, thanks to zxlkho for compiling.
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Do you have anyone as of right now to fill MP's spot as a drummer?

No, not yet. This all went down yesterday.

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Wow. So was this out of the orange for you guys too or have you been weighing the options over the past while?

Shocking.
No one ever anticipated Mike leaving.
I love him and personally think it's a mistake but he's his own man.

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Did you guys even for a second consider ending the band upon hearing Mike's decision?

Not for a micro second.
25 year careers don't grow on trees!

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I'm going to be very greedy and ask if musical differences played a factor in the parting with Mike?

Not at all.

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Regarding drummers, are you going to try and find a player that you already know personally?

That's not a prerequisite.

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John,

Do you know if you guys will write the new album in the studio or write most of it beforehand?

Both
(FAWK YES)

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Seeing as DT always bounce back when they have something to prove(Scenes & Images), has this changed got you pumped for the new album?

I'm absolutely pumped for the next album!
I was before the news and still am.
I love DT and love writing and recording new music more than anything.
I love the challenge of trying to top yourself each time.

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If Mike chose to return in the future, would the band be okay with it?

I would love to have the chance to play with Mike again.

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Did John Myung say something when he found out?

John has a lot to say and contribute

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Hey JP.

Has the band been in serious talks about what comes next, or are you all kinda giving it a moment to sink in before any concrete plans?

Our plans for 2011 haven't changed.

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You probably have no idea since it's so early, but how are the setlists gonna work out? MP always made them, and took the time to see what songs hadn't been played in a while in each state.

We will take great care in making the setlists

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I feel bad that we're storming you with questions John, but you're handling it well and thanks so much for opening up this Q&A of sorts.

How do you think the band will fill the other roles that Mike played? At least from the fans perspective it appeared Mike did a great deal of the bands management, not just drumming.

God Bless

We have a manager that has always handled the band's affairs. Mike was excellent at promoting the band and making public appearances as well as communicating with our fans. We will have to step it up to match all he did.

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Hey John,

How do you think this will effect the writing of future (or at least this upcoming) records? Do you think you guys are still going to enter the studio on a blank slate and go from there?

Our method of writing wont change. It's hard to say.

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John,

Don't know if you'd answer this, but are you guys considering an acoustic album, without drums? After seeing Jordan's video today, I think if you all were putting together songs without drums it might create something completely different and pretty cool.

Not at this time

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John,

Are you still just as happy with the Mark V's, or do you still like going back to your Mark IIC+'s?

They are all awesome. The Mark V is a monster and I will definitely use it in the studio.

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Hey John i had a few questions. Any answer would be fine and none would be fine. lol. anyway...

I was wondering if the revolving setlists for the shows would remain? I know MP kept track of that stuff and i was wondering if that was going to change.

Now that MP is gone are you guys producing the album yourself or are you thinking about hiring an outside producer?

and What about ytsejam records? Will that continue or go away.

Thanks!

We haven't decided.

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Last question, I promise. Do you foresee a stylistic change with the forthcoming album? Many fans are speculating that Mike had a large role to play in the recent shift towards a more modern metal sound.

It's not predetermined. It happens organically when we write together. I'd rather not speculate because I've always had a passion for playing heavy music. We'll have to see what happens in the studio.

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Without going into too many details, how did the Mike tell you he was finished?

He was a gentleman.

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John,

Are you intimidated at all going into writing a new album without mikes creative input?

P. S., thanks for taking the time to do this. A lot of us have been members of your page for ten years, and we've waited patiently to hearing (reading) your words.

No. There is nothing I enjoy more than writing and recording. I'm really looking forward to it.

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Hey john are you working on a new solo album??. Do you have an estimated date of release?

Yes, it's mostly written and yet to be recorded. Coming soon details to follow.

At 10:55pm September 9th James LaBrie made the following post at his forum.
Quote from: James LaBrie
Hi Everyone,

Thought I would give you time to digest the news of Mike's departure. MIke stated that he was burnt out with the DT world and needed a break. We have to respect where he is at and where this will lead him at this particular point in time. With that being said, we are more than pumped to continue the legacy of DT and jump full on into the next chapter. Rest assured it will be great. You can count on it.

On another positive note. Matt and I are psyched with the reaction and reviews 'Static Impulse is receiving around the world. We can't wait until everyone can get their hands on the complete disc. and hear it the way it was intended.
I will be around more often to see how you're all doing and to fill you with any and all news. Take care and not long now until the 27th or 28th depending on where you live.

Kick it up a notch,

James.

The thread on his forum can be seen here: https://www.jameslabrie.com/forum/index.php?topic=726.0

At approximately 2:00pm on September 10th and interview by Classic Rock Magazine with Avenged Sevenfold bass player Johnny Christ is published.

Quote from: Classic Rock Magazine
In the wake of Mike Portnoy's news that he was leaving Dream Theater, Avenged Sevenfold's Bassist Johnny Christ has spoken out about their shock at the announcement.

In an exclusive interview with Classic Rock Magazine, the bassist told them how the band had no idea it was coming. "It’s been a crazy day for us. Mike made his announcement last night [September 8], and we’re as astounded as everyone else. We only found out ourselves via a conference call. As huge fans of Dream Theater it’s hard to imagine them without Mike Portnoy, but it was a decision that he had to make for himself at this point in his life. It didn’t have anything to do with us."

Yesterday morning (Wednesday night to our friends in the US) Mike Portnoy shocked fans, including Avenged Sevenfold as he announced his departure from Dream Theater. Click here for the full story.

Since the news hit, some Dream Theater fans have pointed the finger of blame at the Huntington Beach band, the speculation of various music sites aswell haven't helped as they ask, did Mike Portnoy leave Dream Theater to join Avenged Sevenfold full time?

"It’s too early to address that type of question," sighs Johnny as he continues when asked if Mike would be staying with the band. "All we know for sure is that Mike will be with us until the end of this year. We’re scheduling some more tour dates and given that he’s left Dream Theater we might be able to hold onto him a little longer. But we’ll have to see how that goes."

So far, A7X have no immediate plans of bringing in a permanent replacement for The Rev, who sadly passed away at the end of 2009, the bands own future still has been undecided by its members. Since the success of Nightmare and the fans response on the Rockstar Uproar Festival tour in the US the band could be beginning to consider what will happen after the touring cycle in terms of writing another album, but the thought of replacements for Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan are currently not on the agenda. "We won’t know for sure until the end of this touring cycle. Trying to write again without ‘The Rev’… I just don’t know how that would feel. We’re still taking things one day at a time; the last thing on our minds is replacements." He concludes.

The article can be read at the original source here: https://www.licklibrary.com/news/2010/9/625-Avenged_Sevenfold_speak_about_Mike_Portnoy39s_departure_from_Dream_Theater

At approximately 5:30 on September 10th Jordan Rudess uploaded a second video to youtube entitled change, found here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UxKFwAXWTU&feature=sub

His comment on the video read as follows.
Quote from: Jordan Rudess
Some really big changes happening and the best way I know how to express my feelings is with music. Here is another improvisation i just played on my Steinway, that also features a really cool Iphone/Ipod app that we are working on, called SketchWiz. Hope you dig it!!!

Our discussion of that video is here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=16481.0

Shortly after his video was posted, at around 5:45pm on September 10th the following statement appeared on Jordan's website.

Quote from: Jordan Rudess
Closing this chapter is difficult because Mike and I are really close friends, have been great musical partners and he has been a vital part of Dream Theater. Still, opening up the next chapter is really exciting because DT is full of ideas and energy about the future.  Mike is the ultimate rock drummer and I know he will be successful at whatever he does. Meanwhile, DT is moving forward quickly and looking forward to creating some great new music.

The link to the statement is here: https://jcrudess.wordpress.com/2010/09/10/jordan-rudess-official-statement/

And here is our discussion of the statement: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=16482.0
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Re: The MP/DT Reference Thread
« Reply #2 on: September 11, 2010, 09:35:22 AM »
Starting at 6:58pm on September 10th John answered another round of questions on his forum.

The thread for this is here: https://www.petrucciforum.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70325&page=20

Our discussion of the additional questions is here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=16450.msg589444#msg589444

You can see the questions he was asked and answers below, thanks to MajorMatt for compiling.


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John,
what will be the fate of ytsejam record? Is this the end of the official bootlegs for DT or any plans for running the similar thing?

That should not be affected.

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John,

You are my inspiration as a guitar player, you have a velvet touch like none other and a vibrato that could ring for days...

Now, maybe this is a little too soon, but what are you going to be looking for in your new drummer? Is it likely he'll have a different style to Mike's, as to give DT a sort of new creative angle?

A monster who can handle the technical, groove, metal and sensitive sides of our music.

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John, do you think this will give the other guys in the band more creative input? IE James writing more melodies, JM writing more lyrics.I guess to some outsiders it seems like Mike kind of held them back a little, just my observation.

Everyone in DT contributes as much or as little as they choose.

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John, off topic, but do you still own/play your old ibanez guitars?

I still own the originals but don't play them anymore.

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John, you are a tone guru as far as I'm concerned (up there with the Timmons and Eric Johnsons of the world). I have always immensely enjoyed your tone and playing. I am personally rather partial to Awake


Q: What DT album and/or song do you feel has the best tone? How are you planning to evolve your tone onto the next album(s)?


Thank you so much for this session mr. Petrucci, it has certainly given THOUSANDS of people a lot more peace of mind!

Thank you so much. Obviously tone is so important to me and so subjective as well. That's a difficult question...I love the tone on "Scenes..." as well as "Black Clouds..." and "Suspended..." It just evolves as the guitars and amps do but at the end of the day, I believe it's all in the hands.

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John,
Are you going to try to get a drummer before you start writing/recording? Or write the record first and then bring someone in? Are you looking for a permanent member or a temporary member/revolving door type thing?
Thanks for answering all the questions and doing this tonight!
Mike

To me it doesn't matter if someone is in place or not as far as composing is concerned.
We are not looking to do anything "interim" or "temporary"

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Hey JP,

This is very early stages, but do you think that you may have to take on the responsibilty of being the sole producer for the next album?

Do you think that you and MP will work together in the future?

Ive been a member for years but this is my first ever post! Im 22 years old and ive been a massive fan of DT and your music for around 9 years now. DT's music and your guitar playing has basically been a daily part of my life since then. Ive been lucky enough to meet you a couple of times and see DT live 3 times (including your first show in oz in perth) in Australia and one of your clinics. And every time i spoke to you, you were very sincere and eager to answer my questions, and that same sincerity is shining through now, so thanks JP for talking to us at such a hectic time dude, You sound as shocked as me and alot of my friends and family are. But as a lot of your fans have shown today I will be backing DT 110% and i hope everything goes well for MP too. Probably the biggest chapter in DT history.

From your loyal fan,

Ben

I love producing but it could be nice to get a fresh perspective as well.
Not sure yet.
I would love to play with Mike again, of course.

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This was a big question in my mind, and glad to hear that you guys will do what you can to fill in on that end. It's great to have revolving set lists.



I'm sure you guys will. Hopefully you find a drummer who has a name for himself that can mingle with the fan end of things like Portnoy did.

My only question was which modern drummers you look up to that you think would fit with your band? Or, just which modern drummers you look up to?

There is so much amazing drum talent out there!

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John,


Do you prefer African or Domestic honeybees for a metronome?



Rock on!

Clover honey bees from Madagascar.

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Hello Mr. Petrucci

Just curious, what music have you been into lately?

My head is buried deep in my solo material!

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John,

I know you've talked about it in the past, but are you any closer to possibly making an album with STEVE MORSE some day?

Would love to but not any closer.

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HELL YEAH!!!!!

Would you consider doing a mini tour playing smaller venues in support of the new album? Maybe playing some DT or LTE instrumentals along with your solo stuff?

Thanks for all the music, it's really cool that you're taking the time (ha, pun) to answer our questions. Can't wait to see what the future holds for you guys!

I would be into playing larger venues!

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Aside from musical interaction, are you still going to be good friends with Mike?
Like getting together to eat some barbacue and live rodents? I could not imagine separating from a friend you've had for 25 years.
Hopefully it ended on good terms?


Good night, btw. May you dream with blazing unisons.
Same for me!

Yes it did. Mike and I are friends.

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John- First and foremost, I would like to offer my deepest thanks for posting on the forum. I would love to see you occasionallychime in on threads that aren't all about asking you questions. I guarantee that it would be just as special as it is to hear from you today. Honestly, you posting on the forum today has been equally exciting as anticipating any Dream Theater release. The thought of you being a regular member and offering your insight on things that don't necessarily concern you or Dream Theater makes me even more excited.

In regards to the future of Dream Theater, I am wondering if you and the rest of the band would be in support of John Myung contributing lyrics again. Though there is already so much to be excited about in regard to DT's future, I think everyone would be excited to hear something from the man who seldom speaks.

Thanks again for all the inspiration you've given me,

-Steven Converse

Unsure about JM's lyrics. He hasn't expressed anything.

At 7:47pm on September 10th the DTF community felt a collective warm fuzzy feeling as our collective father figure not only recognized, but approved of our existence and accepted our praise in his humble fashion.

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Hi John,
Not sure if you will read this but the guys over at the DT Forums have asked if a registered member over here would mind posting this:

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/bo...?topic=16450.0

Just some comments regarding your statement

All the best,
Matt
I read through all the comments on dreamtheaterforums.org and again, I'm absolutely blown away. Feeling a lot of love right now as Luke would say!
Thank you so much. You guys are inspiring to say the least.

Although we have no conclusive proof of what John's expressions were when he first browsed our community, experts agree he probably looked something like this.



The thread where the comment was made is here: https://www.petrucciforum.com/forums/showthread.php?p=890050#post890050

Our discussion of this event is here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=16450.msg589487#msg589487
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At 11:30pm on September 10th Mike Portnoy made an appearance on Eddie Trunk's Friday Nights Rock show to talk about his departure from Dream Theater and the interview would end up helping diffuse possible tension in the situation up to that point.

The interview can be heard in three parts here.
Part 1
Part 2
Part 3

A transcript of the interview can be viewed here: https://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=145872

The transcript is also posted below.
Quote from: Eddie Trunk & Mike Portnoy
Q: Clearly you weren't just some drummer — you were very much a focal point and driving force [behind DREAM THEATER]. So what went down and how did we arrive at this point that you are no longer a member of DREAM THEATER?

Portnoy: Well, I don't know how to sum it up, but I guess I could sum it up by just saying I was put in a position where I kind of had to quit in order to move forward. I love DREAM THEATER, I love the guys, it's been my baby for 25 years, but I just needed a break from DREAM THEATER. And a lot of people have already misinterpreted my press release, saying, "Well, if he needs a break, why is he playing with all these other bands?" I didn't need a break from playing and from touring and doing projects — I really just felt like DREAM THEATER needed a break. We have been on a write-record-tour cycle for a solid 12, 15 years — almost 20 years at this point — without any real breaks, and I was just feeling like it was... I don't know... It was just a pattern that needed to be broken. And this isn't something that I just started feeling and decided overnight; I mean, this dates back to last year. I was already feeling it [back then]. We were in Europe on the Progressive Nation tour last fall and I even suggested to the guys, "Why don't we not tour as much in 2010?" We were gonna do an American tour in the spring and we ended up blowing that out — just 'cause I really felt the need to shake up the cycle and break the pattern that we'd been doing for so long because it was starting to become a little stale to me. I would go off and do these other projects and they were very refreshing to me and yet I'd come back to DREAM THEATER, and as much as I love the music and as much me and the bandmembers are brothers, I just felt like we needed a break from each other in order to reignite the flame. Dating back to last fall I was feeling it, and then when I was out with TRANSATLANTIC this last spring, I was talking about it with some people on that tour. And then when we were out with [IRON] MAIDEN this summer, I knew it was coming to a head. And finally I brought it up to the guys and suggested, "Why don't we just take a little bit of a break? We've been going non-stop for so many years, I think maybe a couple of years' hiatus would do us good. It would give us each a chance to recharge our batteries and be reinspired." And those guys didn't agree with me. They wanted to keep going, and they wanted to start a new album in January [2011], and I just really felt strongly that a break could do us some good. And we just disagreed on that point. And, basically, it came to... After this initial discussion, we went off for about a week or so to think about it, and we came back together a couple of nights ago to talk about it, and they didn't wanna budge; they really wanted to start the album in January — with or without me. And I really felt if I was forced to go into the studio in January feeling the way I'm feeling that my heart wouldn't be in it and I would be going through the motions and not really doing what I really, really felt in my heart I should be doing, which is getting a breather... And that's what happened. Basically, I was put in the position where I either had to do the album in January against my will or I had to say goodbye, and I chose to say goodbye. It was the hardest decision I've ever made in my life and I feel really sad about it, and those guys are really sad about it. It's kind of weird that it came to this because none of us really wanted it, but inevitably this is the way it went down.

Q: You didn't wanna quit and obviously they didn't want you out. It really just seems like it was a disagreement as to where you were in your life with the band and what they wanted to do, and I guess the odds came out to four against one, and they decide they're going without you.

Portnoy: That's exactly it. I mean, I didn't wanna quit and they didn't want me to leave, but yet here we are; it was the only way that they could happily move on and I could happily move on. It's a weird kind of break-up, because it was a break-up where we still loved each other. I got, like, the nicest e-mail today from John Petrucci [DREAM THEATER guitarist] and I got a great e-mail today from Jordan [Rudess, DREAM THEATER keyboardist]. They miss me and they're sad about this, and I'm sad about it and I'm heartbroken, but we just strongly disagree. I really think that the band could have used a few years to recharge our batteries and so many bands have done it — whether it be SOUNDGARDEN, ALICE IN CHAINS, JANE'S ADDICTION, PHISH, RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE... A lot of bands, when you're going this long and this strong, they take a break and then come back bigger and better than ever, and that's kind of what I hoped would happen with DREAM THEATER, and I was hoping that would be the path we could take together, but it was not to be.

Q: How much do you think that playing with AVENGED SEVENFOLD and the other projects that you do — you're always busy working creatively, doing other things, whether it's DREAM THEATER or not — played a role in this coming down, if any?

Portnoy: Well, it absolutely had nothing to do with my initial thoughts, because, like I mentioned earlier, I was already discussing this with the guys last fall. And last fall, The Rev [late AVENGED SEVENFOLD drummer] was still alive and well and I had nothing to do with AVENGED SEVENFOLD and I was already feeling these feelings last September/October. If you watch the "Wither" video that we shot on that tour, almost all the footage is me hanging out with Mikael Åkerfeldt [of OPETH] or Damon Fox [of BIGELF]; I was already feeling some separation from the guys in DREAM THEATER. The groundwork in those feelings was already laid down back then. So, really, the feelings had nothing to do with AVENGED SEVENFOLD, and once 2010 rolled around, I went and did some shows with HAIL!, and then I went and did a couple of months of touring with TRANSATLANTIC, and then I started the tour with AVENGED SEVENFOLD, and all three of those projects — not just AVENGED, but all three of those projects — equally showed me how I was feeling very comfortable and happy and refreshed with some of these other bands. And I go back to DREAM THEATER, like on the MAIDEN tour, and the relationships between the five of us in DREAM THEATER were a bit strained; everybody was kind of just burnt out on each other — sitting in different dressing rooms and not hanging out, and like I mentioned, if you watch the "Wither" video... There was a bit of that strain, and 25 years together sometimes will do that. We love each other, we're brothers, and we're family, but sometimes you kind of grow apart and need some space, and that's what I was feeling. Honestly, this all was brewing way before AVENGED SEVENFOLD, but AVENGED SEVENFOLD, the experience with them kind of just opened my eyes a bit, as did the TRANSLATLANTIC tour, and as did the HAIL! shows. It just opened my eyes up to what a fresh relationship can be... I don't know... It's real tough for me to put in words and I really don't wanna be misnterpreted. I really don't want people to think that I left DREAM THEATER for AVENGED SEVENFOLD — I am not a member of AVENGED SEVENFOLD; I'm just touring them and helping them out, and we're having a great time. I just felt like I wouldn't have my heart into going back to DREAM THEATER in January without having some sort of a break. I mean, the way it is now with AVENGED, I guess we'll just ride this out together, because they're a band without a drummer, and now I'm a drummer without a band. We haven't made any decisions or have even discussed where we go from here. It's just for now I will continue playing with them and we'll see where we go from there.

Q: The first thing I thought about when I heard about this, and I'm sure a lot of fans did as well, was that the other guys in DREAM THEATER probably said , "Well, he's playing with all these other bands, but when need to work, he doesn't have time for us, so that's that." But you're saying that really wasn't it.

Portnoy: I don't know... Yeah, maybe they do feel that way.

Q: Kind of like your girlfriend is off doing other stuff and then when you need her, she's not available.

Portnoy: You know, I cannot ever be accused of not having my heart into DREAM THEATER. I mean, I've literally spent 25 years... It's my baby . . . I mean, I almost felt like I had to sacrifice myself from the situation so I wouldn't be holding them back and I wouldn't be doing something against my will. It's incredible for me to think that they're carrying on without me, but I guess that they're... I used to joke with them all the time. I used to say, "If I ever die, don't say 'He would have wanted us to carry on.' Because I wouldn't want you to carry on without me.'" The last thing I ever wanted to see was a DREAM THEATER without Mike Portnoy in it, so I used to always joke with them about that. But now, here when faced with this reality... I mean, sure, the selfish side of me doesn't wanna think of that band without me, and I kind of wish we would have just taken a break, but then there's the side of me that... I can't hold them back. They're my friends and they're my brothers and if they really wanna continue, then I can't say no; I don't wanna be an a-hole and do that to them. It's a strange situation, and luckily it ended on good terms and those guys have made it blatantly clear that the door is always open for me. So, I mean, it's a weird thing because I would go back to them in a heartbeat, just not now. I just need a break.

Q: How much time did you feel that you needed that you told them that you wanted away [from DREAM THEATER]?

Portnoy: When I proposed it, I proposed an indefinite hiatus, as so many bands go on, and all of whom have come back bigger and better than ever. But that didn't go over [well with the other guys], so then, after talking about it, I said, "Well, then how about, let's say, a year [or] a year and a half? Why don't we take off 2011 and reconvene in 2012?" John Petrucci could do a solo album — he's been talking about that for the longest time — and James [LaBrie] just did a solo album, and John Myung just did a JELLY JAM album, and Jordan's got plans... It made sense. It's like, "Let's just take off 2011 — everybody could do their own thing — and reconvene in 2012." And that didn't go over [well] either; they didn't wanna do that either. I even offered to do various work with them in 2011 — even though it wasn't what I wanted, I was willing to do it just to keep the band afloat. It just didn't fly. It's just unfortunate that that's the way that the chips fell.

On how his role in DREAM THEATER and whether he thinks he can be easily replaced:

Portnoy: The two situations I could think of that are similar [to this] — Tommy Lee with MÖTLEY CRÜE and maybe Phil Collins with GENESIS — and in both of those cases they both left, and in both of those cases they came back, so you know what?! Maybe that will be the case here... I don't know. But to be honest with you, to me the thing that is so weird about this is that my role in DREAM THEATER just went so beyond the drumming. Honestly, I think there's thousands of drummers that could walk into DREAM THEATER right now and could do a great job drumming-wise, but what about the other thousand things that I had to do in DREAM THEATER?! . . . I think they'll have no problem getting a great drummer — there's lots of great drummers out there — but I think they're gonna have to really step up to the plate to cover all of the other responsibilities; they're gonna each have to put in 500 percent more to cover that ground. And I guess they're up to it. I've already seen John Petrucci doing Q&As [question-and-answer sessions] on his web site, which in all these years I've never seen him do, so I guess they're each gonna step up to the plate and cover that ground that I used to cover. You know, I never in a million years thought I would ever see a DREAM THEATER concert, and I'm looking forward to one day doing it. [Laughs]

Q: If I'm a betting man, I have to say that it won't be more than a year or two before you return to that gig under some circumstance.

Portnoy: Well, you know what?! If that was to happen, then I got what I wanted [laughs] — I got my break from them and they got what they wanted; they got to continue on. Maybe a couple of years from now we'll get back together and we'll live happily ever after. I don't know. But there's been so many cases — you've seen it; history has shown — and I've already cited MÖTLEY CRÜE and GENESIS, but you could talk about... AEROSMITH went on without Joe Perry and MAIDEN went on without Bruce [Dickinson] and [JUDAS] PRIEST without [Rob] Halford... Ultimately, they all came back together and I would love it if some day that happens with us . . . The whole thing is as tough for me to swallow as it is for the fans. I feel really bad for the fans, 'cause I spent my entire career making decisions for them and trying to feed the fanbase, and I knew this was one decision that wouldn't be a popular one with the fans, but for once in my life — for once — I had to do what Mike Portnoy felt was right and not what was best for DREAM THEATER. I mean, what would have been best for DREAM THEATER, in my opinion, would have been to just take a few years off — everybody do their own thing, recharge the batteries and come together. But we're five different people with five different personalities, and I guess we differed on that subject . . . We've mentioned these other scenarios [where the members parted ways and then] all [came] back together. The thing that scares the crap out of me, though, is I see a similarity to maybe Roger Waters with PINK FLOYD and that never came back together, and that scares the crap out of me. It would be a tragedy if I never got to be on stage with DREAM THEATER again . . . I'm at peace with [my decision to leave the band] — I really am. I'm depressed and sad and shocked over it, but I am indeed at peace with it, and I think it was the right thing [to do], because I had to follow my heart. I've never been a fake or a B.S. person, and if I would be forced to go into the studio in January, I would feel resentments, and I can't do that. I need to love what I'm doing, and I've never done a project or an album or anything with any other musician that I didn't believe in.

Q: You're out with AVENGED SEVENFOLD, which is gonna continue into the New Year, so at this point, you're just gonna hold with that gig and continue playing with those guys and I imagine you're having fun doing it, right?

Portnoy: Well, yeah. I am indeed having a great time with these guys, so there's no denying that. They're a great bunch of guys, the show is awesome, their fans are awesome, and they've been great to me. The thing with them is they need to take small baby steps because of the situation they just went through with their drummer dying, so they're really in no rush to get a permanent drummer, and they're taking baby steps one day at a time. And I'm in the same boat now, because I don't wanna make any major decisions right now either and now I'm gonna take baby steps and just take this one day at a time. And I guess right now there's no pressure for me, and there's no pressure for them, to make any decisions for awhile now; we can just carry on with their tour, and we have the luxury of time now without any pressure hanging over either of our heads. So I'll carry on with them and then when the time comes that I have to make a decision to do something else, I'll climb that hill when I get there. But right now, it's nice to not have the pressure and I could just play.

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Re: The MP/DT Reference Thread
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2010, 11:10:45 AM »
At 10:36am on September 11th, Mike Portnoy's sister made the following statement on his forum.
Quote from: Sam (Portnoy)
Before I write this, understand that this is MY statement.  Mike might kill me for speaking up, but I just can't sit by quietly.  I guess I'm like Mike in that way.

PLEASE stop reading between the lines with this whole situation. There is no hidden meaning in all of this (is there ever with Mike?  The guy is an open book with his fans!!).  Everything Mike said in his interview with Eddie Trunk, in his press release or otherwise is everything he has been saying to me for the past year, at least.  He LOVES the other (DT) guys and their families.  They have grown up together, married women that were (and are) best friends, have raised their kids as best friends.  They are family.  This was not an easy decision for him as a drummer, founding band member (and band leader) or person.

Let's put 25 years into perspective.  I am 40.  I met John and John when I was 15.  How many friends do I still have that I have had to live AND work with for the past 25 years?  Not a single one.  I can't imagine looking at the same group of people for that many years and being able to come up with new, fun ideas (that will then be judged the world over).  My friends and I get stuck on doing the same things on random weekend gatherings!   


Remember, this is strictly my perspective here...

You'd think that being a rock star would be 100% fun 100% of the time.  But I know that Mike works extremely hard and takes every bit of this experience to heart.  You might think you know, but you have no idea (to borrow a line from Behind the Music).  It is a part of who he is as a person, it is definitely not just a job.  He's been running at a pace (WITH DREAM THEATER) most people couldn't keep up for a few months, much less 25 years.  He just wants a break.  He wants to have the chance to play with other musicians and be reminded of how special this all is.  He wants to have fun and not be in charge of every detail for a bit.  (And for those of you thinking he should just let others take the reins in DT, all I'll say is that you have no idea what you are talking about.)

The way I see it, it's not a matter of Mike not wanting to be in DT (Remember, he DOES want to be in DT... he NEVER wanted or planned to leave the band).  Giving up Dream Theater must be like giving up a child for him.  I know it's been horribly painful.  But I am extremely proud of him for recognizing that he needs to be reinvigorated and for doing what he needs to do to make that happen.  You know Mike.  He does not do anything half-assed.  He wants every drop of music that Dream Theater releases to be perfect and fulfilling for everyone.  Right now, he is guaranteeing that he can't do that.  Maybe (apparently) the other guys don't feel the same about this situation, I can't speak to that, but he knows that he needs a break to be able to bring the best of himself to the table.  There is no alterier motive.  He genuinely just needs a break.  He needs a break that allows him to find new inspiration and have some down time.  When he has done his other side projects, if you think he was not also working on DT stuff, you'd be incredibly mistaken.   

I guess I got a bit long-winded there... sorry, but it's torture to sit back and watch my brother getting ripped apart or criticized for making this incredibly INCREDIBLY hard choice.  And for those of you who are supporting/understanding of his decision, I want you to know HOW MUCH it is appreciated.

Thanks for listening...
~ Sam

Shortly thereafter Mike endorsed the message on twitter saying the following.
Quote from: Mike Portnoy
A great post on my site by my sister to help people understand my perspective a little more: https://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/m2588976.aspx

The thread at MikePortnoy.com can be found here: https://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/m2588976.aspx

And our discussion of the post is occurring in the master thread and starts here: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=16386.msg590984#msg590984
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"Did an interview with Rich Wilson for England's "Classic Rock" about Mike's departure from DT. Should be out soon."
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Looking forward to this one. Hopefully it's not just a "going through the motions"-type interview and provides some real substance instead.
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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2010, 12:49:02 PM »
Thanks for taking the time to make this! There's a lot of information scattered through out a couple threads that would be easy to miss. So hopefully this gets rid of some of the confusion out there.

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^ yeah, this is great.  Thanks Nick.   :tup
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« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2010, 08:49:22 PM »
Awesome!
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« Reply #11 on: September 11, 2010, 09:58:25 PM »
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I just don't understand what they were trying to achieve with any part of the song, either individually or as a whole. You know what? It's the Platypus of Dream Theater songs. That bill doesn't go with that tail, or that strange little furry body, or those webbed feet, and oh god why does it have venomous spurs!? And then you find out it lays eggs too. The difference is that the Platypus is somehow functional despite being a crazy mishmash or leftover animal pieces

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« Reply #12 on: September 11, 2010, 10:53:01 PM »
Liking the thread btw. This will be great to archive and look back on in a few years. Arguably the most important portion of the bands history might be going on, and we're all witnessing it firsthand, so its very much an experience. This thread is a nice bit of posterity in that regard.

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Might want to add this...

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« Reply #14 on: September 12, 2010, 03:09:38 AM »
This is a fantastic idea for a thread, thanks for collecting it all in one place!

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« Reply #15 on: September 12, 2010, 03:54:51 AM »
This is a great idea. Very helpful.

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« Reply #16 on: September 12, 2010, 09:25:51 AM »
Okay, I *think* I've hit all the major twists and turns.

PLEASE if you have 10 free minutes look over this, make sure everything is in the correct order, that all the links work for you, that everything that should be in red is in red, and let me know if everything is here.
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« Reply #17 on: September 12, 2010, 09:34:47 AM »
Well the only flaw I could find was the typo, Rena is spelled like Rina one of the times. :rina: (EDIT: Addressed)

But that's not even really worth it. Great job... super helpful.
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« Reply #18 on: September 12, 2010, 09:36:51 AM »
Liking the thread btw. This will be great to archive and look back on in a few years. Arguably the most important portion of the bands history might be going on, and we're all witnessing it firsthand, so its very much an experience. This thread is a nice bit of posterity in that regard.
This. Also, newer fans can look at this thread if they want to know why MP left the band.

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Re: The MP/DT Reference Thread
« Reply #19 on: September 12, 2010, 10:12:48 AM »
Great thread!

Thanks, Nick.  :heart
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Re: The MP/DT Reference Thread
« Reply #20 on: September 12, 2010, 10:25:36 AM »
Nick, this thread truly rocks! Its all the stuff I waste time searching for all in one place. Thank you so much! :tup
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Re: The MP/DT Reference Thread
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2010, 11:00:32 AM »
Nick, you did what all of us wanted. We appreciate it dude.

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« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2010, 11:43:28 AM »
JR just posted at 12:35 pm the following:

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Re: The MP/DT Reference Thread
« Reply #23 on: September 12, 2010, 11:53:39 AM »
I approve of that.
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Re: The MP/DT Reference Thread
« Reply #24 on: September 12, 2010, 12:05:19 PM »
Indeed.  Who wants to see some blonde stalker emo kid drumming for DT based on a video of "The Dance of Eternity" :neverusethis:

But seriously, good for them.  Audition them in person and get a feel for chemistry.  Again: Rod Morgenstein.

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Re: The MP/DT Reference Thread
« Reply #25 on: September 12, 2010, 12:41:55 PM »
Indeed.  Who wants to see some blonde stalker emo kid drumming for DT based on a video of "The Dance of Eternity" :neverusethis:

Why did this make me think of icy? :lol
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« Reply #26 on: September 12, 2010, 01:17:25 PM »
 :lol
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Re: The MP/DT Reference Thread
« Reply #27 on: September 12, 2010, 01:28:07 PM »
Indeed.  Who wants to see some blonde stalker emo kid drumming for DT based on a video of "The Dance of Eternity" :neverusethis:

Why did this make me think of icy? :lol
Because that was the point! :lol

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Re: The MP/DT Reference Thread
« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2010, 01:58:42 PM »
Indeed.  Who wants to see some blonde stalker emo kid drumming for DT based on a video of "The Dance of Eternity" :neverusethis:

Why did this make me think of icy? :lol
Probably because he was referring to Icy who plays the drums.

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« Reply #29 on: September 12, 2010, 02:21:01 PM »
Indeed.  Who wants to see some blonde stalker emo kid drumming for DT based on a video of "The Dance of Eternity" :neverusethis:

Why did this make me think of icy? :lol
Probably because he was referring to Icy who plays the drums.

Alright, I knew Icy was a drummer and all, I guess I just didn't realize that we were supposed to make that connection.
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Re: The MP/DT Reference Thread
« Reply #30 on: September 12, 2010, 02:21:23 PM »
Well done and thanks for making this thread, a document of what has been a turbulent and historic couple of days in the life of our favourite band.  :tup

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« Reply #31 on: September 12, 2010, 08:45:52 PM »
Having been gone the last few days, this thread is of great help to me.  Thanks again Nick!

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« Reply #32 on: September 13, 2010, 02:39:56 AM »
Thanks Nick! I'll watch this thread as closely as possible.
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« Reply #33 on: September 13, 2010, 03:02:08 AM »
Thanks for compiling this, Nick!
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Re: The MP/DT Reference Thread
« Reply #34 on: September 13, 2010, 09:31:05 AM »
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