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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2170 on: October 07, 2010, 04:39:55 PM »
"Mike Portnoy: Goodbye Cruel World....."

...Wait what?
Being discussed here already: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=17334.msg621461#msg621461
Um, but isn't that thread supposed to be in this thread? :p
But... but...

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2171 on: October 07, 2010, 05:53:30 PM »
It's a thread that's inside a thread. Soon there will be another thread coming from that thread.


And then: Inception 2: Portnoy's Complaint

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2172 on: October 07, 2010, 06:29:26 PM »
So nothing new except we've got a lot of people wondering here at DTF?

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2173 on: October 07, 2010, 06:41:10 PM »
This is all just totally boring now.

It's like some kind of high school banter between ex-best friends. How old is Mike, 12?

He needs to go away for a bit. Look how classy the DT guys are being by not responding to any of this. They've just completely had enough of Mike, and as i've said before - it's probably been a long time coming all of this.

In any case, i'm done with the Mike Portnoy show. I couldn't care less about what's going on right now. All I care about is the future of DT - and what the band has up their sleeve for the next album.

The fans need to get over it as well. Leave the guy be.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2174 on: October 07, 2010, 06:46:21 PM »
I imagined the story to go more like this.

I was sitting a traffic light blaring Space Dye Vest and next to me in another car was Kevin Moore. And I'll never be open again.

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2175 on: October 07, 2010, 07:06:16 PM »
Great posts, Sam and SnakeEyes  :tup

Hey lad,

Sorry that I copied it. I didn't know how to quote it, so that it why I copied and paste it. Hope you're not too upset with it...otherwise...have a beer, I owe you one!  :chill
I will put your name above the text  ;)

Hehe, don't worry, I'm just kidding. I'm more flattered that someone would plagiarize my opinion, since I have a certain reputation of failing around here. But not everyone would be so happy about it.

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2176 on: October 07, 2010, 07:10:36 PM »
Wait for it.....













Wait for it.....














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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2177 on: October 07, 2010, 08:08:23 PM »
I'm sorry, but you guys a fucking heartless. Since he left the band, whenever he posts on his forum, tweets something or update his facebook status he's getting crap. Every time I read the same thing ''He's playing the victim but he's the bad guy in this'' ''He's fucking childish'' ''He's immature''. I keep seeing people posting that they lost respect for him.

Come on. Everytime he posts something thousands of people are interpreting his words like crap. Give him a break, he's a human after all. You think it's easy to let things being discussed on internet about how you're an asshole in this story? I bet everyone would try to explain himself, and everytime he does it you're giving him crap.

I just saw the picture of him at the Roger Waters show and he seems damn happy. He went to see one the best concert of his life and we he gets home, he reads this ridiculous 'open letter' and all the crap that's going on on his forum. Just because the guy did what he thought was best for him. Fucking ridiculous.

I think we can turn the page now.

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2178 on: October 07, 2010, 08:14:28 PM »
Nic, the whole point is he needs to STOP POSTING this crap. HE needs to turn the page, not the fans.

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2179 on: October 07, 2010, 08:16:30 PM »
I'm sorry, but if the fans would have been respectul, all this would've been avoided.

He started to tweet A7X stuff and he got bullshit. That's what started it.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2180 on: October 07, 2010, 08:18:45 PM »
I'm sorry, but if the fans would have been respectul, all this would've been avoided.
Man, we're talking about fans

It's kind of obvious they're gonna bitch and make a riot...This wouldn't have happened if MP paid less attention to the internet, I'd say.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2181 on: October 07, 2010, 08:21:31 PM »
We all know that MP is an internet guy and reads a lot of fan's opinion. He even wrote a song about it. The fans should've known he would read everything. He just tried to defend himself, but it was 'childish' according to the fans.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2182 on: October 07, 2010, 08:23:08 PM »
I'm sorry, but if the fans would have been respectul, all this would've been avoided.

He started to tweet A7X stuff and he got bullshit. That's what started it.

And he just simply could not let it go, that fans will be fans. Nevermind that he's talked this way about his idols before.

Expecting a grown man to have some common sense and maturity to not bitch about his daily problems on the internet is normal.

Expecting an entire online fanbase to "JUST GIVE THE MAN A BREAK ALREADY" while he continues to hormonally tweet about how sad he is-- i just don't see how that's a reasonably expectation.

Not trying to be inflammatory, just calling it like I see it. Mike brought this ALL on himself. The only thing he can do is ignore the internet now, or keep to posting positive things while ignoring the trolls.

We all know that MP is an internet guy and reads a lot of fan's opinion. He even wrote a song about it. The fans should've known he would read everything. He just tried to defend himself, but it was 'childish' according to the fans.

Of course the fans "knew" he'd read it. THEY WANTED HIM TO READ IT. lol. He lashed out at James, which was childish, and then when EVERYONE called him out on it he said he "didn't know what he had to be sorry about," which was also childish. I don't get why we should blame "the fans," because the fans are a force that can't and shouldn't be controlled. Mike only has himself to blame. Things will NOT improve for him until he realizes that his constant jumping into fan arguments makes them much, much worse.

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2183 on: October 07, 2010, 08:23:38 PM »
Well, it was. A 45+ years artist being hurt by people on the internet? Maybe MP's always been like this, but being this way was ultimately going to lead him down to this. Sooner or later, he would have felt overwhelmed by the bad responses and attitudes (hell, it's rock & roll baby!). This is life teaching him a lesson, I concur.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2184 on: October 07, 2010, 08:29:54 PM »
Nic, the whole point is he needs to STOP POSTING this crap. HE needs to turn the page, not the fans.
I have to say, I totally agree. It kills me to me in the negative camp as far as Mikes actions go, but I can't help it, its making me cringe.
I will continue to be a Mike fan but this is the weirdest thing right now.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2185 on: October 07, 2010, 08:32:59 PM »
"Mike Portnoy: Goodbye Cruel World....."

...Wait what?
Being discussed here already: https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=17334.msg621461#msg621461
Um, but isn't that thread supposed to be in this thread? :p

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2186 on: October 07, 2010, 08:37:34 PM »
I agree that his comment on JLB's interview crossed the line, but he was given crap since he left the band.

Anyways, I don't want to  get into a big debate. IMO we should stop discussing about his departure and his behavior and just let him enjoy his life. That's it.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2187 on: October 07, 2010, 08:49:25 PM »
Yup. As soon as he stops with the attention-begging tweets, us fans will stop commenting on 'em. Can't comment on something that doesn't exist, after all  ;D

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2188 on: October 07, 2010, 08:51:38 PM »
But what's the point on commenting on something you find immature?
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2189 on: October 07, 2010, 08:56:50 PM »
Sorry, I've never lived in a world where people don't talk about the things their favorite bands are currently doing.

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2190 on: October 07, 2010, 08:58:36 PM »
He's not in the band anymore. Whats's the point of bashing on a former member's behavior? That's the thing I don't understand.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2191 on: October 07, 2010, 09:01:55 PM »
I don't see any bashing going on. I just see fans talking about their almost unanimously shared disappointment.

This is someone us fans talked about almost every day. Why would we just 'stop' because he's not in the band anymore? Especially when he refuses to leave quietly?

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2192 on: October 07, 2010, 09:03:09 PM »
Nic, what you're suggesting is really against human nature, it seems.

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2193 on: October 07, 2010, 09:09:25 PM »
I don't know, that's just me. When someone says something immature, I just don't care because I'm enough mature to take his statement and put it in the garbage because it's not worth discussing. (don't know if it makes sense, keep in mind English isn't me first language)

But I'm not saying you're are immature guys. Of course I'm not telling you to stop discussing about it (you wouldn't listen to me either if I told you so), but I don't feel the necessity of saying over and over again that Mike's behavior is childish.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2194 on: October 07, 2010, 09:16:30 PM »
Well, I actually agree that I've been talking about this far more than is healthy.

But still there's this:

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2195 on: October 07, 2010, 09:23:18 PM »
I guess you're talking about this?

0. Says he doesn't like James' voice publically.
1. Leaves band.
2. Cry about being forced to leave.
3. Get mad over discussions of possible future drummers on his forum.
4. Delete threads with such discussions.
5. Says that the rest of the band would need to put 110% into everything they do to fill his shoes.
6. Says that it would be a tragedy if he never plays with the band again.
7. Bitch about Blabbermouth taking things out of context yet fall into their trap and remove James' tour dates.
8. Posts an apology in a half hearted way "okay fine whatever sorry".
9. Calls himself a victim.

Literally still have fans that defend him wow.

What really happened:
0. He said he wasn't into that style of singing anymore. Not that he doesn't like it.
2. He didn't cry at all. Total bullshit. He and the band said that all went down in a very friendly way.
3. He said in a polite way that it was hard for him to see discussions about the next drummer, that's why he asked to avoid the subject for now.
4. It's just normal. It's HIS forum. Like I said, he asked it in a polite way. His 'fans' should've understood how he felt.
5. He never said that.
6. It would be a tragedy because he loves DT and loves the guys, that's why it would be a tragedy. He didn't say that in an arrogant way.
7. That wasn't actually bright from MP.
8. The letter was ridiculous. What did you expect?
9. Because he is a victim of thousands of people (like you) that are bitching him.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2196 on: October 07, 2010, 09:25:02 PM »
I'm just gonna say I disagree, and let you take up that argument with Flash if you want. 'Cuz I don't have time do this again!!!

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2197 on: October 07, 2010, 09:26:37 PM »
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2198 on: October 07, 2010, 09:45:47 PM »
I strongly suggest people read this before posting anyting else in this thread:  https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=17311.0
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2199 on: October 07, 2010, 09:56:04 PM »
I have a confession to make. I think this is one of the best things that could have happened to DT. As of late I had found DT boring and predictable, and their musical output interested me less and less. This development not only provides seemingly endless entertainment due to the drama factor (I was getting afraid it had already died down), but it also adds a new spark to DT, and that's good.

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2200 on: October 07, 2010, 09:59:34 PM »
I don't share that opinion (the part about them becoming boring and predictable), but I understand that a lot of people do.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2201 on: October 07, 2010, 10:01:49 PM »
I think a lot of things about predictability is good and I personally love the album and touring cycle they've gotten into. It means I have a new album I will more than likely enjoy every 2 years and that I'll have 2 legs of touring to get to see them after that album... I like that.
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2202 on: October 07, 2010, 10:07:47 PM »
I'm not saying this would happen, but here's a hypothetical nobody has talked about:  Mike was key in providing a lot of the structure and arrangement of DT's songs.  What happens if that element is suddenly removed, but a lot of other things stay the same?  I.e., what if we get an album that is a JP/JR shredfest, but lacking the kind of structure and arrangement that Mike brought to the table?  I mean, it would be pretty ironic if the next album came out, and people were like, "What the--MIKE, PLEASE COME BACK!!!"   :lol
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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2203 on: October 07, 2010, 10:09:03 PM »
I have a confession to make. I think this is one of the best things that could have happened to DT. As of late I had found DT boring and predictable, and their musical output interested me less and less. This development not only provides seemingly endless entertainment due to the drama factor (I was getting afraid it had already died down), but it also adds a new spark to DT, and that's good.

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Re: Mike Portnoy leaves Dream Theater
« Reply #2204 on: October 07, 2010, 10:10:20 PM »
I'm not saying this would happen, but here's a hypothetical nobody has talked about:  Mike was key in providing a lot of the structure and arrangement of DT's songs.  What happens if that element is suddenly removed, but a lot of other things stay the same?  I.e., what if we get an album that is a JP/JR shredfest, but lacking the kind of structure and arrangement that Mike brought to the table?  I mean, it would be pretty ironic if the next album came out, and people were like, "What the--MIKE, PLEASE COME BACK!!!"   :lol

Yeah, Mike helped with the structures of the songs. But that doesn't mean the other members don't know anything about song structure...