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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #210 on: October 16, 2010, 10:30:23 PM »
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For the first time, I am truly disgusted with the Rush fan in general. Not you guys, the people are the Rush boards. I am tired of defending these elitist snobs!
One guy starts a thread about how much he hates DT based on the first thing he finally heard from them. Are you ready... A fucking youtube clip of them playing a Rush cover! He then goes on to say he now understands why people don't like them, cause it sucked so bad! He hated the singer, blah blah, blah.
I personally don't like James singing Rush either but what a fool this dude is.

This jackass has never heard one single Dream Theater song yet he now knows why they suck! What a complete dick! I can't take it. :facepalm:

Ok, I need to take a deep breath. >:(

was this recent? because I swear I saw a thread like that on therushforum like, 8 months ago. unless this is a normal occurrence with TRF...

Yeah, I remember someone bringing up that there were angry Rush fans who hated DT based solely on that cover of The Camera Eye.  Whether they were TRF users or youtube comments I can't remember.

@Tick: You understand why I didn't stay long at TRF?  :biggrin:
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #211 on: October 16, 2010, 11:20:49 PM »
I never like JLB's voice on Rush covers, but that is still a dumb reason to dismiss the band so quickly.  Sadly, that kind of attitude is indicative of the average fan at an online Rush forum, which is why I rarely go to or post at either of them.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #212 on: October 17, 2010, 06:41:52 AM »
Quote from: skydivingninja on October 16, 2010, 10:30:23 PM
Quote from: PlaysLikeMyung on October 16, 2010, 02:44:45 PM
Quote from: tick on October 16, 2010, 02:26:10 PM
For the first time, I am truly disgusted with the Rush fan in general. Not you guys, the people are the Rush boards. I am tired of defending these elitist snobs!
One guy starts a thread about how much he hates DT based on the first thing he finally heard from them. Are you ready... A fucking youtube clip of them playing a Rush cover! He then goes on to say he now understands why people don't like them, cause it sucked so bad! He hated the singer, blah blah, blah.
I personally don't like James singing Rush either but what a fool this dude is.

This jackass has never heard one single Dream Theater song yet he now knows why they suck! What a complete dick! I can't take it. :facepalm:

Ok, I need to take a deep breath. >:(

was this recent? because I swear I saw a thread like that on therushforum like, 8 months ago. unless this is a normal occurrence with TRF...

Yeah, I remember someone bringing up that there were angry Rush fans who hated DT based solely on that cover of The Camera Eye.  Whether they were TRF users or youtube comments I can't remember.

@Tick: You understand why I didn't stay long at TRF?  :biggrin:
I do understand. I met a lot of mature cool people there 3 or 4 years ago, that are close personal friends of mine today. I love them.
but these days the current crop of posters(not all) leaves me scratching my head.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #213 on: October 17, 2010, 10:59:18 PM »
As someone pointed out over there, it's strange, and in some cases outright hilarious, how some Rush fans are basically lobbing the same criticisms at DT that the music press has been lobbing at Rush throughout their career.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #214 on: October 18, 2010, 11:01:59 AM »
Just coming in to say that I love Signals
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #215 on: October 18, 2010, 02:41:14 PM »
Rush are one of the few Prog bands I like and I've been a big fan since the first time I heard them. I was making out with my first girlfriend at a mate's house and side two of FTK was on the turntable. Not your usual "make out" music I grant you but my love affair with Rush lasted a hell of a lot longer than with the girl.  ;)
Saying that, I haven't liked an album since Counterparts, and haven't liked many songs. they sound too samey to me and lack structure to the melodies. they sound to me like Geddy has come up with the vocal melodies whilst reading through the lyrics for the first time. I know they always wrote the music first and fit the lyrics around it, but in the last few albums (over twenty years) it actually sounds like it.
I know I'm in the minority here.
2112, FTK, PWaves, MP, GuP, PW, HYF, RTB, C, all classics.
 The first side of Hemispheres does nothing for me. Again I'm in a minority.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #216 on: October 19, 2010, 02:43:46 PM »
If you did not find some musical goodness in Snakes and Arrows or the two new singles you might be incapable of love.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #217 on: October 19, 2010, 03:58:34 PM »
There are only 2 songs on S&A I like but Caravan is my favorite Rush song  :lol
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #218 on: October 19, 2010, 04:38:42 PM »
Quote from: Lowdz on October 18, 2010, 02:41:14 PM
The first side of Hemispheres does nothing for me. Again I'm in a minority.
do you just not like good music
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #219 on: October 19, 2010, 04:44:52 PM »
It took me a while, hopefully he'll come around.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #220 on: October 19, 2010, 06:03:55 PM »
Honestly, Hemispheres is a great song, but the first side, to me, is easily the most overrated song in the Rush discography.  Its great, but I don't think its worthy of all the OMGSOPROGSOGOOD fawning it gets.  Disliking it outright is very, VERY odd, but I can see where he's coming from.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #221 on: October 19, 2010, 06:05:30 PM »
I think Hemispheres is one of my least favorite epics.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #222 on: October 19, 2010, 06:08:00 PM »
Quote from: skydivingninja on October 19, 2010, 06:03:55 PM
Honestly, Hemispheres is a great song, but the first side, to me, is easily the most overrated song in the Rush discography.  Its great, but I don't think its worthy of all the OMGSOPROGSOGOOD fawning it gets.  Disliking it outright is very, VERY odd, but I can see where he's coming from.

Its not OMGSOPROGSOGOOD for that reason. Its an amazing song simply because I dare say, has one of Geddy's best vocal performances ever. The intro riff is addicting as hell, the synth section is orgasmic, and the song has an epic ending. What's not to love?

Quote from: PlaysLikeMyung on October 19, 2010, 06:05:30 PM
I think Hemispheres is one of my least favorite epics.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #223 on: October 19, 2010, 06:23:28 PM »
SS, you just mentioned that musical virtuosity, multiple sections, and an "epic ending" were not reasons for OMGSOPROGSOGOOD fawning (which I really just said as a joke to begin with).  Do you not listen to prog? :neverusethis:

And I actually don't think Geddy's voice is anything to write home about with that song.  There are lots of older songs that have better performances.  The music is great, though, just not THAT great.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #224 on: October 19, 2010, 06:30:10 PM »
Quote from: skydivingninja on October 19, 2010, 06:23:28 PM
SS, you just mentioned that musical virtuosity, multiple sections, and an "epic ending" were not reasons for OMGSOPROGSOGOOD fawning (which I really just said as a joke to begin with).  Do you not listen to prog? :neverusethis:

And I actually don't think Geddy's voice is anything to write home about with that song.  There are lots of older songs that have better performances.  The music is great, though, just not THAT great.
I mean its not the fact that its prog that I love it. Its just it sounds so good!

That being said, there are plenty of songs that aren't prog that have epic endings.

I'm just a sucker for the ending of Hemispheres though, Geddy's voice over the acoustic guitar = orgasm  :heart
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #225 on: October 19, 2010, 06:34:40 PM »
The tard face usually implies part or all of a post is in jest and should be taken extra-not-seriously.  Nub.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #226 on: October 19, 2010, 06:37:32 PM »
Quote from: skydivingninja on October 19, 2010, 06:34:40 PM
The tard face usually implies part or all of a post is in jest and should be taken extra-not-seriously.  Nub.

I know that. But I can't resist gushing over Hemispheres!  :heart
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #227 on: October 19, 2010, 09:30:16 PM »
Quote from: PlaysLikeMyung on October 19, 2010, 06:05:30 PM
I think Hemispheres is one of my least favorite epics.
Its my favorite epic by far.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #228 on: October 19, 2010, 10:39:41 PM »
It took a while for me to warm up to "Hemispheres" when I first got the Hemispheres CD back in the summer of '92.  It being Part II of "Cygnus X-1," I think I was thrown by it not being as heavy or intense as Part I, at least on the surface or superficially at first.
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« Reply #229 on: October 21, 2010, 09:44:28 PM »
I still haven't found a decent Rush forum I'd like to hang at.  I'd love to one day but I haven't really been looking all that hard of the years.



There was a time 25 years ago when Hemispheres might have been my favorite Rush album, but after some context I've found that is no longer the case. I still love it, but it has quite a bit of competition.
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« Reply #230 on: October 23, 2010, 06:15:29 AM »
Quote from: DarkEternalNight on October 19, 2010, 04:44:52 PM
It took me a while, hopefully he'll come around.

After 27 years I doubt it. I love side 2, i was just hoping for more after cygnus... and the story does absolutely nothing for me either. going through the black hole and becoming a god in Olympur? Err, no.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #231 on: October 23, 2010, 04:23:18 PM »
Counterparts is a really good record, a lot better than people give it credit for. Double Agent and Cold Fire are great songs.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #232 on: October 23, 2010, 04:39:26 PM »
Counterparts is fantastic.  IMO though, Double Agent brings it down a bit.  Everyday Glory is a really underrated song.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #233 on: October 23, 2010, 05:30:43 PM »
Quote from: DarkEternalNight on October 23, 2010, 04:23:18 PM
Counterparts is a really good record, a lot better than people give it credit for. Double Agent and Cold Fire are great songs.

Cut To The Chase = as good as sex.

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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #234 on: October 23, 2010, 05:39:00 PM »
I can't get into Everyday Glory for some reason.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #235 on: October 23, 2010, 06:13:59 PM »
Counterparts is a decent album, but nothing I rank that highly in Rush's discography.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #236 on: October 23, 2010, 06:16:20 PM »
Well your opinion is wrong.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #237 on: October 23, 2010, 09:31:08 PM »
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #238 on: October 23, 2010, 09:49:00 PM »
Quote from: glaurung on October 23, 2010, 06:16:20 PM
Well your opinion is wrong.

Remember who posted that.  Are you really surprised?
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #239 on: October 24, 2010, 02:48:32 AM »
Chalk up another fan of Counterparts here. The last Rush album I really liked. Double Agent is a favourite. Cold Fire is excellent. StickIt Out isn't great once you get over the fact Rush were rocking out again.
And then came TFE and the slide began for me. I know alot of Rush fans rate it but I just never did.
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« Reply #240 on: October 24, 2010, 02:51:21 AM »
Counterparts seem like a great record. I mainly listen to Animate, Cold Fire, Everyday Glory, and one of their best instrumentals in Leave That Thing Alone.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #241 on: October 24, 2010, 04:30:38 AM »
The biggest weakness of Counterparts is its inconsistency. There are songs that are simply amazing (Cut To The Chase, Cold Fire, Animate), but I just don't care for some other songs (Stick It Out, The Speed Of Love). Apart from that, it's a very good album.
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« Reply #242 on: October 24, 2010, 05:28:17 AM »
Quote from: tri.ad on October 24, 2010, 04:30:38 AM
The biggest weakness of Counterparts is its inconsistency. There are songs that are simply amazing (Cut To The Chase, Cold Fire, Animate), but I just don't care for some other songs (Stick It Out, The Speed Of Love). Apart from that, it's a very good album.

Stick it Out is good but The Speed Of Love is the only debbie downer in the CD.  I'd love to see Cut To the Chase and Alien Shore live.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #243 on: October 24, 2010, 07:07:53 AM »
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Quote from: glaurung on October 23, 2010, 06:16:20 PM
Well your opinion is wrong.

Remember who posted that.  Are you really surprised?
I never said it was a terrible album.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #244 on: October 24, 2010, 08:57:25 AM »
Nobody's Hero is pretty good
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