Author Topic: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels (Read 508215 times)

KevShmev · « **Reply #2555 on:** May 07, 2012, 10:18:49 AM »

I could see this being a realistic set list:

2112 (I and II)
2012 Medley
Headlong Flight
New World Man
Middletown Dreams
The Pass
Bravado
CA song
CA song
Limelight
Freewill

Caravan
BU2B
The Analog Kid
The Enemy Within
CA song
CA song
Closer to the Heart
MalNar
Drum Solo
Xanadu
The Spirit of Radio
Tom Sawyer

Far Cry
Subdivisions
YYZ

Nick · « **Reply #2556 on:** May 07, 2012, 10:20:54 AM »

I'm telling you, if it's ever going to happen again this will be the tour that 2112 gets played in full one last time.

KevShmev · « **Reply #2557 on:** May 07, 2012, 10:22:09 AM »

True, but I just don't think Geddy's voice can handle the strain of singing all of that song every night anymore.

jingle.boy · « **Reply #2558 on:** May 07, 2012, 10:23:44 AM »

I could easily pass on The Pass. Give me War Paint, Anagram, even Chain Lightning before The Pass.

Good setlist Kev... but it just seems like Deja Vu. I'd love to see some songs not done much in the last 10 years... gimee Cygnus (yes, I know the vocals are tough), give me some part of Hemisphere's, Where's My Thing, Jacob's Ladder, Beneath, Between & Behind ... time to mix it up a bit more.

Prolly not gonna happen tho.

KevShmev · « **Reply #2559 on:** May 07, 2012, 10:31:17 AM »

Well, they seem to give us a few songs a tour now that have either never been played or haven't been played in a while (not counting new songs at the time):

VT tour: New World Man, Between Sun and Moon, Vital Signs, By-Tor and the Snow Dog, half of Cygnus X-1 (as opposed to just a tease at the end of YYZ) and Working Man
R30 tour: Between the Wheels, Mystic Rhythms and Xanadu
S&A tour: Digital Man, Entre Nous, Mission, Circumstances, Ghost of a Chance, Witch Hunt and A Passage to Bangkok
TM tour: Time Stand Still, Presto, Stick It Out, Faithless, Marathon and The Camera Eye

So, I think the odds are good that we see 3-4 songs that have either never been played or haven't been played in at least 10 years. The set list I posted has 6 such songs, although 3 of them were played on the VT tour 10 years ago.

With any luck, they decided to not play Jacob's Ladder last time out since they were saving it for the next tour.

Nick · « **Reply #2560 on:** May 07, 2012, 10:53:43 AM »

Unfortunately Alex has since commented that they rehearsed the song but just weren't feeling it and went with other stuff instead. That doesn't mean that it won't get played, but they weren't simply saving it sadly.

Phoenix87x · « **Reply #2561 on:** May 07, 2012, 11:00:53 AM »

I guess the songs I would be happiest to see live would be:

1. The Necromancer
2. Losing it
3. Middletown Dreams
4. Ghost of a Chance
5. Anthem

Just seeing one of those would make me a happy camper.

KevShmev · « **Reply #2562 on:** May 07, 2012, 12:02:15 PM »

Quote from: Nick on May 07, 2012, 10:53:43 AM

Unfortunately Alex has since commented that they rehearsed the song but just weren't feeling it and went with other stuff instead. That doesn't mean that it won't get played, but they weren't simply saving it sadly.

I hadn't heard him say that, but it is possible that they didn't want to do that and The Camera Eye on the same tour, since both are longer (for them, since they hadn't done a song 7 minutes or longer since 1981 until this year) and both have a lot of mellow parts. They might not want to have dedicated two spots in the show to longer tracks that don't rock enough. This is all me speculating, of course.

Quote from: Phoenix87x on May 07, 2012, 11:00:53 AM

I guess the songs I would be happiest to see live would be:

1. The Necromancer
2. Losing it
3. Middletown Dreams
4. Ghost of a Chance
5. Anthem

Just seeing one of those would make me a happy camper.

I think Middletown Dreams is by far the most likely of those five to get played this year. Neither Anthem nor The Necromancer have a shot in hell (unless they played a part of each in an instrumental medley, like I mentioned earlier), Losing It would be too hard to play since a violin is not only featured prominently, but plays the solo, and Ghost of a Chance got played on the 2nd leg of the S&A tour, and if they are going play something from Roll the Bones again, I suspect it would one of the others they have played before. Middletown Dreams was rumored to have been talked about in rehearsals on several of the past few tours, so it sounds like a song they have considered, thus giving it a chance. I'd love to see it.

jammindude · « **Reply #2563 on:** May 07, 2012, 12:22:08 PM »

Very little that I havn't seen that I actually want to see. And what IS on the list doesn't have a chance, so I'm just happy with what I get.

But if I'm pipe dreaming anyway...

All of Cygnus.
The Necromancer
Xanadu (complete and uncut)
Jacob's Ladder
What You're Doing
The complete Fear suite.

Nick · « **Reply #2564 on:** May 07, 2012, 12:23:09 PM »

Kev, unfortunately I don't remember WHERE it was said, but what I said is the reason Alex gave, the band just wasn't feeling the song.

Edit: Trying like hell to find it but no luck so far. It was in a fairly recent interview, after the tour had been finished, and I think it was in some mag you wouldn't expect.

Big Hath · « **Reply #2565 on:** May 07, 2012, 12:54:00 PM »

Quote from: Nick on May 07, 2012, 12:23:09 PM

I think it was in some mag you wouldn't expect.

Cat Fancy?
Good Houskeeping?
Cosmo?

Actually, I wouldn't put it past Alex to have an interview with any of those.

theseoafs · « **Reply #2566 on:** May 07, 2012, 12:55:57 PM »

Quote from: Big Hath on May 07, 2012, 12:54:00 PM

Quote from: Nick on May 07, 2012, 12:23:09 PM
I think it was in some mag you wouldn't expect.

Cat Fancy?

Are you kidding? The cat-owning community has been upset with Rush since Signals. Have you seen that cover?

Big Hath · « **Reply #2567 on:** May 07, 2012, 01:06:02 PM »

oof

Also, By-tor and the Snow Dog

edit to add Dog Years (even though I'm not sure I should)

The Letter M · « **Reply #2568 on:** May 07, 2012, 01:11:34 PM »

Well if playing all (or nearly all) of "2112" is in the realm of possibilities, what if the band A/B'd both "2112" and "Hemispheres" (down-tuned of course)? Possibly at the end of the 1st set or in the middle of the 2nd set?

-Marc.

Nick · « **Reply #2569 on:** May 07, 2012, 01:49:53 PM »

2112 has a LOT more mainstream exposure, and that even includes the full song now that it was in Guitar Hero and gets played in full on satellite radio. We also just had the 2112 event with a bunch of ground radio playing it in full. There is a lot of pull for 2112 to get played again. And while hardcore fans want Hemispheres just as bad, there simply isn't the pull to get a long tough song like that played as there is with 2112.

The Letter M · « **Reply #2570 on:** May 07, 2012, 03:26:40 PM »

Quote from: Nick on May 07, 2012, 01:49:53 PM

2112 has a LOT more mainstream exposure, and that even includes the full song now that it was in Guitar Hero and gets played in full on satellite radio. We also just had the 2112 event with a bunch of ground radio playing it in full. There is a lot of pull for 2112 to get played again. And while hardcore fans want Hemispheres just as bad, there simply isn't the pull to get a long tough song like that played as there is with 2112.

Point taken, but I can totally see the band only playing most of it, like they did in the 70's, and not ALL of it, but I guess we'll have to wait and see. I wonder if it will still be in the same key it was when it was played back in 15 years ago...

-Marc.

Hyperplex · « **Reply #2571 on:** May 07, 2012, 03:27:01 PM »

Gonna make a new thread for this, because it's Rush goddamnit, but I'll post this here, too:

https://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/rush-clockwork-angels-full-album-reviewed-track-by-track-542931

Hyperplex · « **Reply #2572 on:** May 07, 2012, 03:28:00 PM »

For anyone who is interested. I can't fucking wait.

https://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/rush-clockwork-angels-full-album-reviewed-track-by-track-542931

cyberdrummer · « **Reply #2573 on:** May 07, 2012, 03:45:31 PM »

Already posted on the previous page.

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=16371.msg1281884#msg1281884

cyberdrummer · « **Reply #2574 on:** May 07, 2012, 03:46:06 PM »

https://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=16371.msg1281884#msg1281884

krands85 · « **Reply #2575 on:** May 07, 2012, 04:24:08 PM »

Hi guys. Probably been asked dozens of times, but what Rush albums would you recommend for a newcomer to the band who is obsessed with Dream Theater?

Favourite DT albums:
1. Images and Words
2. Train of Thought
3. A Dramatic Turn of Events
4-6. - Octavarium/Scenes/Awake

Cheers

Nick · « **Reply #2576 on:** May 07, 2012, 04:27:04 PM »

Although not my favorite albums, Moving Pictures and then Permanent Waves are the clear choice for a new Rush fan. They are well loved by most Rush fans and are very accessible for new fans. After that I'd either move into the two albums before, or Signals and Power Windows depending on which you think would be more in tune with his tastes.

dbrooks22 · « **Reply #2577 on:** May 07, 2012, 04:28:27 PM »

Train of Thought is in my top 2 for DT as well.

I'd listen to Nick - PW and MP are the places to start.

krands85 · « **Reply #2578 on:** May 07, 2012, 05:41:52 PM »

Thanks guys.

Been meaning to try and get into them for a while. I watched 'I Love You, Man' last night, where they are referenced quite a lot and that has convinced me to finally try them out properly

Mosh · « **Reply #2579 on:** May 07, 2012, 08:15:55 PM »

I would love to see Animate live!

Nick · « **Reply #2580 on:** May 08, 2012, 09:15:35 AM »

AH. It was Neil, not Alex.

https://legacy.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=164346

KevShmev · « **Reply #2581 on:** May 08, 2012, 09:22:42 AM »

Hmmmm, well, that is disappointing, but I'd rather they play songs they are feeling and excited about than songs the fans want to hear that they are bored with and going through the motions during. It's just too bad that Jacob's Ladder became the latter instead of the former.

Nick · « **Reply #2582 on:** May 08, 2012, 09:37:20 AM »

Quote from: KevShmev on May 08, 2012, 09:22:42 AM

Hmmmm, well, that is disappointing, but I'd rather they play songs they are feeling and excited about than songs the fans want to hear that they are bored with and going through the motions during. It's just too bad that Jacob's Ladder became the latter instead of the former.

Exactly. I'm not going to be too picky about which old songs get brought back as long as we see 4-5 songs that haven't been played live in a long time.

dbrooks22 · « **Reply #2583 on:** May 08, 2012, 04:51:50 PM »

I'd like 7-8

Nick · « **Reply #2584 on:** May 08, 2012, 04:55:06 PM »

And I'd like 10-15, but I'm forcing myself to be realistic in order to minimize my disappointment.

KevShmev · « **Reply #2585 on:** May 08, 2012, 11:08:12 PM »

https://www.musicradar.com/news/guitars/producer-nick-raskulinecz-talks-rushs-clockwork-angels-543113

I am officially beyond excited.

Nick · « **Reply #2586 on:** May 08, 2012, 11:23:52 PM »

Finally. Confirmation that this is a concept record. For better or worse I'm glad Rush are attempting it, and based off of some of Nick's comments and the songs already available I'm super excited.

King Postwhore · « **Reply #2587 on:** May 09, 2012, 07:34:10 AM »

Man that interview got me all jacked and pumped.

Gadough · « **Reply #2588 on:** May 09, 2012, 04:03:59 PM »

Rush with South Park co-creator Matt Stone.

Nick · « **Reply #2589 on:** May 09, 2012, 04:05:24 PM »

So much joint win...

News: The Gift of Music official video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fae4FQ4McSY

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