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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2065 on: March 18, 2012, 04:59:21 PM »
Listened to Rush (the album) for the first time in a while. Finding My Way was very awesome, but honestly everything else was really bad. :/
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2066 on: March 18, 2012, 05:04:19 PM »
Quote from: Ħ on March 18, 2012, 04:59:21 PM
Listened to Rush (the album) for the first time in a while. Finding My Way was very awesome, but honestly everything else was really bad. :/
Even Working Man?

Finding My Way is indeed awesome, but I'm not surprised you don't like their debut.  It's very much in the vein of Zeppelin-esque wailing vocals and bluesy guitars.  I enjoy it, but it's not a favorite of mine.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2067 on: March 18, 2012, 05:14:51 PM »
Quote from: The King in Crimson on March 18, 2012, 05:04:19 PM
Quote from: Ħ on March 18, 2012, 04:59:21 PM
Listened to Rush (the album) for the first time in a while. Finding My Way was very awesome, but honestly everything else was really bad. :/
Even Working Man?

Finding My Way is indeed awesome, but I'm not surprised you don't like their debut.  It's very much in the vein of Zeppelin-esque wailing vocals and bluesy guitars.  I enjoy it, but it's not a favorite of mine.

This.  I still like the first album quite a bit though.  Just fun rock music with lots of instrumental wizardry that they carried over onto their other albums. 
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2068 on: March 18, 2012, 05:57:05 PM »
I thought the first album was really meh. The only reason I could possibly care about it is because it is by Rush. Even Working Man doesn't really do it for me.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2069 on: March 18, 2012, 06:21:27 PM »
At the end of the day, Finding My Way and Working Man are the only two songs from the debut that I care about whatsoever. Rush has its fair share of less-than-stellar albums; just look at each album as its own beast and you'll be much happier for it.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2070 on: March 18, 2012, 06:29:22 PM »
I love the first album  :heart
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2071 on: March 18, 2012, 06:34:24 PM »
As far as self-titled debut albums go, this is one of the better ones! Definitely signs of where they were going, and what they wanted to do, and songs like "Working Man" really showed just how hard they could rock out!

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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2072 on: March 18, 2012, 06:56:27 PM »
Listened to a Best Of Rush CD my friend put on in the car and I have to say I didn't enjoy any of it  :-\

Fly By Night sounds like something they threw together last minute when they needed one more song for the album.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2073 on: March 18, 2012, 06:57:45 PM »
Quote from: Kotowboy on March 18, 2012, 06:56:27 PM
Listened to a Best Of Rush CD my friend put on in the car and I have to say I didn't enjoy any of it  :-\

Fly By Night sounds like something they threw together last minute when they needed one more song for the album.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2074 on: March 18, 2012, 08:01:45 PM »
Quote from: Kotowboy on March 18, 2012, 06:56:27 PM
Listened to a Best Of Rush CD my friend put on in the car and I have to say I didn't enjoy any of it  :-\

Fly By Night sounds like something they threw together last minute when they needed one more song for the album.


No way.  If you had a live bootleg from a studio when Neil first joined the band you'd know that the chorus and the bridge was flipped so they put some time and effort in molding that song.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2075 on: March 18, 2012, 08:04:43 PM »
Rush's self-titled is something I enjoy when I listen to it, but I pretty much forget about most of it afterwards. 

The first 4 albums are alright to great, but nothing on the second and most of the third groups of four, with the exception of some outstanding songs. 
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« Reply #2076 on: March 18, 2012, 08:37:14 PM »
2112 is the only Rush album, that I own so far, that's consistent. Grace Under Pressure is close.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2077 on: March 18, 2012, 08:37:22 PM »
Quote from: kingshmegland on March 18, 2012, 08:01:45 PM
Quote from: Kotowboy on March 18, 2012, 06:56:27 PM
Listened to a Best Of Rush CD my friend put on in the car and I have to say I didn't enjoy any of it  :-\

Fly By Night sounds like something they threw together last minute when they needed one more song for the album.


No way.  If you had a live bootleg from a studio when Neil first joined the band you'd know that the chorus and the bridge was flipped so they put some time and effort in molding that song.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2078 on: March 18, 2012, 11:52:13 PM »
My faves from the first album are Finding My Way, What You're Doing, Here Again and Before And After.



As far as Fly By Night goes (And The King can attest).  Anthem, Best I Can, Fly By Night and parts of By-Tor And The Snow Dog (in the middle of Working Man) were played live before Fly By Night was recorded.


Portnoy even honored this "medley" on the Working Man tribute CD and I'm not having a brain fart I think Dream Theater also covered part of it during the Six Degrees Tour.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2079 on: March 19, 2012, 07:21:45 AM »
Quote from: kingshmegland on March 18, 2012, 08:01:45 PM
Quote from: Kotowboy on March 18, 2012, 06:56:27 PM
Listened to a Best Of Rush CD my friend put on in the car and I have to say I didn't enjoy any of it  :-\

Fly By Night sounds like something they threw together last minute when they needed one more song for the album.


No way.  If you had a live bootleg from a studio when Neil first joined the band you'd know that the chorus and the bridge was flipped so they put some time and effort in molding that song.

It just sounds really forced.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2080 on: March 19, 2012, 05:02:29 PM »
Fly By Night was miles ahead of the debut. Not the greatest thing ever written but it was enjoyable.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2081 on: March 19, 2012, 05:21:45 PM »
Caress of Steel is not doing great at all...
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2082 on: March 19, 2012, 05:26:50 PM »
That's a tough one. Necromancer is a grower, I can't get into Fountain at all. Bastille Day and Lakeside Park are great tracks though.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2083 on: March 19, 2012, 05:33:51 PM »
Just had an idea. Since we have 9 weeks til the release of Clockwork Angels, I thought I could create a thread that discussed two albums per week from now til May 22nd. Anyone up for that? If I get a good amount of responses in the next couple hours, I'll start the thread.

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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2084 on: March 19, 2012, 05:34:04 PM »
Caress of Steel is awesome.
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« Reply #2085 on: March 19, 2012, 05:45:06 PM »
I'd get in on that sweet action.

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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2086 on: March 19, 2012, 05:55:11 PM »
Quote from: The Letter M on March 19, 2012, 05:33:51 PM
Just had an idea. Since we have 9 weeks til the release of Clockwork Angels, I thought I could create a thread that discussed two albums per week from now til May 22nd. Anyone up for that? If I get a good amount of responses in the next couple hours, I'll start the thread.

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I'm game.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2087 on: March 19, 2012, 05:57:07 PM »
Quote from: Nick on March 19, 2012, 05:55:11 PM
Quote from: The Letter M on March 19, 2012, 05:33:51 PM
Just had an idea. Since we have 9 weeks til the release of Clockwork Angels, I thought I could create a thread that discussed two albums per week from now til May 22nd. Anyone up for that? If I get a good amount of responses in the next couple hours, I'll start the thread.

-Marc.

I'm game.

I second the motion.
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« Reply #2088 on: March 19, 2012, 05:58:09 PM »
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2089 on: March 19, 2012, 07:03:40 PM »
Quote from: Ħ on March 19, 2012, 05:21:45 PM
Caress of Steel is not doing great at all...
Not surprised, Caress of Steel is, IMO, largely terrible.

Bastille Day and Lakeside Park are pretty great tracks, The Fountain of Lamneth is a grower, but it's not very cohesive and it's easily their worst epic.  The Necromancer and I Think I'm Going Bald are lolololbad.
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« Reply #2090 on: March 19, 2012, 07:19:52 PM »
I think Necromancer is good. Probably could've done without the spoken word, but it doesn't hurt the song too much.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2091 on: March 19, 2012, 07:26:42 PM »
I love Caress of Steel  :heart
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2092 on: March 19, 2012, 07:40:54 PM »
Two questions.

1) When does Rush lose that hard rock vibe and get more eclectic?
2) When does Geddy get more tolerable?
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« Reply #2093 on: March 19, 2012, 07:43:37 PM »
It starts going away around Farewell to Kings and is less present with each release after that until Counterparts, which is pretty hard. 

I'd say Signals is where they're no longer 'hard rock' at all. 

And where Geddy starts singing more 'normally'. 
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« Reply #2094 on: March 19, 2012, 07:46:58 PM »
Yeah, A Farewell to Kings is where things get interesting. I think Geddy's vocals become much more mature and tolerable around PW.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2095 on: March 19, 2012, 08:37:46 PM »
Quote from: Ħ on March 19, 2012, 07:40:54 PM
Two questions.

1) When does Rush lose that hard rock vibe and get more eclectic?
2) When does Geddy get more tolerable?


Dude, Geddy on CoS, especially in The Necromancer, is one of my favorite things ever. 
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« Reply #2096 on: March 19, 2012, 08:39:37 PM »
You have weird opinions.
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Re: The Rush Thread v. Clockwork Angels
« Reply #2097 on: March 19, 2012, 08:52:42 PM »
Quote from: Ħ on March 19, 2012, 08:39:37 PM
You have weird opinions.

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« Reply #2098 on: March 19, 2012, 09:47:45 PM »
 :lol

Oh it's no opinion, it's a fact that that's one of my favorite things ever.
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« Reply #2099 on: March 19, 2012, 09:48:27 PM »
That you chose it as your favorite is what's weird.
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