Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)

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sonatafanica

yeah road salt one is a pretty great album all around.

ClairvoyantCat

Quote from: perfectchaos180 on July 02, 2011, 08:18:07 AM
Also the reason most people like TPE and RL the most is because people usually find out about PoS by liking Prog Metal, so generally they will like the albums that are more Prog Metally the most.


Ai.  I only get a bit annoyed seeing a fair part of the fanbase saying that those two albums are the only two worthwhile albums, and the later stuff is "crap" and not worthwhile.  Hell, I was told that back in 2007 when I was getting into the band.

That said, personally, I think they've been on a steady line of improvement since Entropia, with Be, Scarsick, and Road Salt being my three favorite albums of theirs.  They alienated a lot of fans, and I think they're alright with that, but I wish there was less of the "TPE/RL rules all" mentality. 

The King in Crimson

Quote from: ariich on July 02, 2011, 08:19:21 AM
RS1 is one of my favourites.
I agree. It's really quite good.

Controversial Opinion Time: RL (as much as I love it) and tPE are pretty much a short step away from being generic prog metal. Hate on Scarsick and RS1 as much you want, but they're pretty much their own thing. I guess some could say that RS1 is generic 70's rock, but I'd much rather listen to that than generic prog metal.

sonatafanica

i'm not into prog metal at all really, excluding a few albums and songs, and i would say that RL and TPE are close to being what you describe, but at the same time i don't think that's what they're about, or were about when they made it. it's all about feeling for them, and that feeling of music just happened to be progressive metal for those albums.

Adami

I'm not really looking forward to RS2, but obviously I'll get it ASAP and listen to it and hopefully love it.


There's a few songs on RS1 I love, but a few I never have any desire to listen to, like Darkness of Mine, She Likes to Hide, No Way etc.

But I love What She Means to Me, Sisters, Tell Me You Don't Know, Sleeping Under the Stars (minus some lyrical choices), Of Dust, Innocence and such. 
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ClairvoyantCat

Quote from: The King in Crimson on July 02, 2011, 09:34:25 AM
I guess some could say that RS1 is generic 70's rock, but I'd much rather listen to that than generic prog metal.

I don't think you really could, actually.  I certainly can't think of any 70s rock albums offhand that have a spectrum of songs like Of Dust, Sleeping Under the Stars, Curiosity, and Innocence on them.  It's almost like they took the term "70s rock" and turned it upside-down to see what they could draw out of it. 

Also, I've never been bothered by the progressive metal tendencies of the earlier albums in the slightest.  It's like, while they're done in a genre that usually leaves me cold, there is a molten hot emotional core in them that certainly reaches through. 

perfectchaos180

BE is one of my favorite albums of all time... truly a masterpiece, TPE is not far behind it.

And I like everything of theirs except Road Salt (although some songs are growing on me), Scarsick isn't as bad as a lot of people say, but there are a couple of songs I really don't like on it.

ariich

Quote from: ClairvoyantCat on July 02, 2011, 10:16:21 AM
Quote from: The King in Crimson on July 02, 2011, 09:34:25 AM
I guess some could say that RS1 is generic 70's rock, but I'd much rather listen to that than generic prog metal.

I don't think you really could, actually.  I certainly can't think of any 70s rock albums offhand that have a spectrum of songs like Of Dust, Sleeping Under the Stars, Curiosity, and Innocence on them.  It's almost like they took the term "70s rock" and turned it upside-down to see what they could draw out of it. 
This. There's a very obvious 70s feel and influence, but overall it doesn't sound like ANYTHING that I've heard from that era, or indeed ever.

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wolfking

Quote from: Zydar on July 02, 2011, 12:24:20 AM
A translation from his Swedish twitter account he posted from yesterday:

"Road Salt Two is now mixed, mastered, and DONE! Ready and eager to be released at the end of September as standard, limited, and vinyl".

Oh yeah!!  :hefdaddy

bout to crash

No way! September is going to be awesome!

Quadrochosis


ClairvoyantCat

Quote from: bout to crash on July 03, 2011, 09:30:15 PM
No way! September is going to be awesome!

I'd second this, but I'd say we have fair reason to be skeptical about a Pain of Salvation release date so I'll reserve at this point

alirocker08

I've been trying to get my boyfriend into POS, and whilst he's really into Death Metal and things, Sisters is one of his favourites.

abydos

Probably because it's the only song worth listening from that album /trollface

alirocker08

Quote from: abydos on July 04, 2011, 04:00:31 PM
Probably because it's the only song worth listening from that album /trollface
:O

Blasphemy! RS1 is one of my favourites! XP

TheVoxyn

Hey guys, I saw them live 4 times. You jelly?

Adami

Quote from: TheVoxyn on July 05, 2011, 08:19:27 AM
Hey guys, I saw them live 4 times. You jelly?

You know how I feel about you.
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TheVoxyn

Quote from: Adami on July 05, 2011, 08:33:24 AM
Quote from: TheVoxyn on July 05, 2011, 08:19:27 AM
Hey guys, I saw them live 4 times. You jelly?

You know how I feel about you.
You love me right?  :-*

ClairvoyantCat

As soon as Daniel comes to America I'm going to kick his ass for never coming to America. 

The King in Crimson

Quote from: ClairvoyantCat on July 05, 2011, 08:45:46 AM
As soon as Daniel comes to America I'm going to kick his ass for never coming to America. 
Make sure to get his prints first. :neverusethis:

contest_sanity

Quote from: The King in Crimson on July 05, 2011, 06:05:06 PM
Quote from: ClairvoyantCat on July 05, 2011, 08:45:46 AM
As soon as Daniel comes to America I'm going to kick his ass for never coming to America. 
Make sure to get his prints first. :neverusethis:
:lol

faemir

I just teared up at Sisters, definitely a top 5 song.

In The Name Of Rudess

Quote from: The King in Crimson on July 05, 2011, 06:05:06 PM
Quote from: ClairvoyantCat on July 05, 2011, 08:45:46 AM
As soon as Daniel comes to America I'm going to kick his ass for never coming to America. 
Make sure to get his prints first. :neverusethis:

Yeah, and destroy his piano.

Oh, wait, wrong artist.

abydos

I could be seeing them later this year. Not sure if I want to go, though.

Lynxo

I've seen them twice, one of them being the release party for the Linoleum EP. Oddly enough, I never heard anything about a release party for RS1?

Anyway, while RS1 isn't my favorite, I'm really, really looking forward to RS2. And even if it isn't good, it will at least mean the end of the current style they're using. (At least I hope that.) I do wonder what the next album will be like...

TheVoxyn

I've seen them four times and all four times were awesome, definitely go.

Ultimetalhead

Quote from: ClairvoyantCat on July 03, 2011, 09:48:18 PM
Quote from: bout to crash on July 03, 2011, 09:30:15 PM
No way! September is going to be awesome!

I'd second this, but I'd say we have fair reason to be skeptical about a Pain of Salvation release date so I'll reserve at this point
It's already been delayed like 4 times. I'd say this is the real deal.

So, that means we get DT, Opeth, and POS in the same month? That's a prog fan's wet dream right there.

Lynxo

Quote from: Ultimetalhead on July 10, 2011, 08:37:56 AM
Quote from: ClairvoyantCat on July 03, 2011, 09:48:18 PM
Quote from: bout to crash on July 03, 2011, 09:30:15 PM
No way! September is going to be awesome!

I'd second this, but I'd say we have fair reason to be skeptical about a Pain of Salvation release date so I'll reserve at this point
It's already been delayed like 4 times. I'd say this is the real deal.

So, that means we get DT, Opeth, and POS in the same month? That's a prog fan's wet dream right there.
:metal

contest_sanity

Quote from: Ultimetalhead on July 10, 2011, 08:37:56 AM
That means we get DT, Opeth, and POS in the same month? That's a prog fan's wet dream right there.

jonny108

Swedish PAIN OF SALVATION can now finally reveal that the "Road Salt Two" album is scheduled for a September 26th, 2011 release date in Europe via InsideOutMusic.

bout to crash

Woo! Same day as Steven Wilson's, no? Howsabout the US?

Adami

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Zantera

I'm seeing PoS live in September, suck it!  :loser:

TheVoxyn

Quote from: Zantera on July 16, 2011, 01:52:48 AM
I'm seeing PoS live in September, suck it!  :loser:
I might try to catch a show while I'm in Sweden. Already seen them a couple of times but think it would be cool to go to a show there, see if it's any different :p.

The King in Crimson

Quote from: Zantera on July 16, 2011, 01:52:48 AM
I'm seeing PoS live in September, suck it!  :loser:
Wait... I thought you didn't like PoS?