Author Topic: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged) (Read 424531 times)

Perpetual Change · « **Reply #875 on:** May 23, 2011, 08:51:29 AM »

Quote from: ariich on May 23, 2011, 01:43:20 AM

People use the word "generic" far too much as a get out clause when really they just mean they don't like it very much.

Sure the production style on RS1 hearkens back to the 70s, but honestly I'd like to find another album that really sounds like it, because I love it and I want more. But I've never heard one.

I'm not saying it's "generic" I'm responding to the ridiculous claim that people are discounting reasons for disliking it as "people being against something different." It's NOT different. I will take early Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, Cream, and Steppenwolfe an almost any good 60s or 70s rock band over Road Salt any day. And this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R8tRKIiAII

Road Salt is about as innovative as a Lenny Kravitz album. There, I said it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLhpHjmxNw8

Seriously. I could see that exact song being on RS 2... Sorry!

abydos · « **Reply #876 on:** May 23, 2011, 09:19:38 AM »

If that song is on RS2 it would be an improvement. ^^

ariich · « **Reply #877 on:** May 23, 2011, 09:19:50 AM »

Quote from: Perpetual Change on May 23, 2011, 08:51:29 AM

I'm not saying it's "generic" I'm responding to the ridiculous claim that people are discounting reasons for disliking it as "people being against something different." It's NOT different. I will take early Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, Cream, and Steppenwolfe an almost any good 60s or 70s rock band over Road Salt any day.

It's pretty different for PoS, which is what the comment is about. I don't know why you think anyone would be claiming that PoS are writing music that is different to everything.

Perpetual Change · « **Reply #878 on:** May 23, 2011, 09:22:37 AM »

Quote from: ariich on May 23, 2011, 09:19:50 AM

Quote from: Perpetual Change on May 23, 2011, 08:51:29 AM
I'm not saying it's "generic" I'm responding to the ridiculous claim that people are discounting reasons for disliking it as "people being against something different." It's NOT different. I will take early Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, Cream, and Steppenwolfe an almost any good 60s or 70s rock band over Road Salt any day.
It's pretty different for PoS, which is what the comment is about. I don't know why you think anyone would be claiming that PoS are writing music that is different to everything.

Well, no one can do that, but they used to be a lot closer to doing that then they are now!

ariich · « **Reply #879 on:** May 23, 2011, 09:51:13 AM »

Well, I'm not sure I really agree. Like I said, I haven't come across another album that really sounds like RS1. Yeah I could find some individual songs that sound like some of the songs from the album, but I'm talking about the album as a whole. I find it very unique.

TheVoxyn · « **Reply #880 on:** May 23, 2011, 10:18:16 AM »

They were playing conditioned live before the release of RS1 btw (saw them on the small linoleum tour), so chances are that it's changed or scrapped.

MirzekDT · « **Reply #881 on:** May 23, 2011, 11:16:21 AM »

Quote from: Perpetual Change on May 23, 2011, 08:51:29 AM

Quote from: ariich on May 23, 2011, 01:43:20 AM
People use the word "generic" far too much as a get out clause when really they just mean they don't like it very much.

Sure the production style on RS1 hearkens back to the 70s, but honestly I'd like to find another album that really sounds like it, because I love it and I want more. But I've never heard one.

I'm not saying it's "generic" I'm responding to the ridiculous claim that people are discounting reasons for disliking it as "people being against something different." It's NOT different. I will take early Deep Purple, Uriah Heep, Cream, and Steppenwolfe an almost any good 60s or 70s rock band over Road Salt any day. And this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R8tRKIiAII

Road Salt is about as innovative as a Lenny Kravitz album. There, I said it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLhpHjmxNw8

Seriously. I could see that exact song being on RS 2... Sorry!

OMG it's different for the band not for entire world. And it's as unique as TPE or RL compared to other albums in the world cause it definitely has POS essence all over it. It doesn't matter that the sound is inspired by 70's rock sound. The sound of TPE and RL was also inspired by progressive metal sound and there were already many many classic and awesome progressive metal albums out there in 2000 and 2002. However those two albums ARE uniqe. And not because they created some new genre. They are uniqe because DG and the rest of the band put their souls into it and that's same for RS1 too.

Adami · « **Reply #882 on:** May 23, 2011, 11:17:48 AM »

I'm not sure the rest of PoS put their souls into Road Salt, considering they weren't on a good portion of it.

Ben_Jamin · « **Reply #883 on:** May 23, 2011, 12:40:50 PM »

I think they did. Road Salt 1 is bluesy and soulful, and its cool. No Way reminds me of a Stevie Ray Vaughn

Adami · « **Reply #884 on:** May 23, 2011, 12:54:56 PM »

Quote from: Ben_Jamin on May 23, 2011, 12:40:50 PM

I think they did. Road Salt 1 is bluesy and soulful, and its cool. No Way reminds me of a Stevie Ray Vaughn

I dunno, I'm sure DG did. But he wrote every note on the album, and actually performs all of the instruments on a good number of songs. I'm not sure how much "soul" the rest of the guys could have possibly put into an album they had very little to do with.

abydos · « **Reply #885 on:** May 23, 2011, 01:15:22 PM »

They should just throw away the guitars and start making dubstep.

Jakartabassplayer · « **Reply #886 on:** May 23, 2011, 01:17:06 PM »

mizzl · « **Reply #887 on:** May 23, 2011, 01:30:55 PM »

Quote from: abydos on May 23, 2011, 01:15:22 PM

They should just throw away the guitars and start making dubstep.

Oh god...

The King in Crimson · « **Reply #888 on:** May 23, 2011, 06:57:02 PM »

Hm, well at least I now know what vomit looks like on a monitor...

jonny108 · « **Reply #889 on:** May 24, 2011, 08:43:06 AM »

Dan: RS2: Recorded oboe, english horn, flute and alto flute for "Healing Now", "1979", "The Physics of Gridlock" and "To the Shoreline" yesterday.

ariich · « **Reply #890 on:** May 24, 2011, 09:32:20 AM »

Yay acoustic instruments!

Silver Tears · « **Reply #891 on:** May 24, 2011, 10:01:43 AM »

Adami · « **Reply #892 on:** May 24, 2011, 10:03:08 AM »

Quote from: jonny108 on May 24, 2011, 08:43:06 AM

Dan: RS2: Recorded oboe, english horn, flute and alto flute for "Healing Now", "1979", "The Physics of Gridlock" and "To the Shoreline" yesterday.

Really? Did DG actually play all of those instruments or is he saying they were just recorded?

ariich · « **Reply #893 on:** May 24, 2011, 11:21:30 AM »

I'm assuming he means he recorded them rather than played them.

Adami · « **Reply #894 on:** May 24, 2011, 11:23:16 AM »

Quote from: ariich on May 24, 2011, 11:21:30 AM

I'm assuming he means he recorded them rather than played them.

Oh good. Still looking forward to Oboe, English Horn, Flute and also Flute........? For the new album.

ariich · « **Reply #895 on:** May 24, 2011, 11:29:41 AM »

Alto flute.

mizzl · « **Reply #896 on:** May 24, 2011, 11:30:57 AM »

Quote from: ariich on May 24, 2011, 11:29:41 AM

Alto flute.

Adami · « **Reply #897 on:** May 24, 2011, 11:31:39 AM »

Quote from: ariich on May 24, 2011, 11:29:41 AM

Alto flute.

ariich · « **Reply #898 on:** May 24, 2011, 11:37:50 AM »

wolfking · « **Reply #899 on:** May 24, 2011, 04:48:51 PM »

1979? A Smashing Pumpkins Cover??

ClairvoyantCat · « **Reply #900 on:** May 24, 2011, 05:09:23 PM »

Quote from: Adami on May 24, 2011, 11:31:39 AM

Quote from: ariich on May 24, 2011, 11:29:41 AM
Alto flute.

I read "also flute" as well.

pain of occupation · « **Reply #901 on:** May 24, 2011, 07:04:22 PM »

Quote from: wolfking on May 24, 2011, 04:48:51 PM

1979? A Smashing Pumpkins Cover??

was bout to type the same thing.

Ultimetalhead · « **Reply #902 on:** May 24, 2011, 07:16:07 PM »

I would laugh my ass off if 1979 was the last song on the album to symbolize the end of this 70s experiment.

The Degenerate · « **Reply #903 on:** May 25, 2011, 03:22:45 PM »

23:59, December 31st, 1979

Song is one second long, then he moves on to his Glam Metal project.

ariich · « **Reply #904 on:** May 25, 2011, 03:40:09 PM »

Quote from: The Degenerate on May 25, 2011, 03:22:45 PM

then he moves on to his Glam Metal project.

abydos · « **Reply #905 on:** May 25, 2011, 05:28:03 PM »

If this is what it takes to hear him using more of his screams, i'm all for it. Maybe he will do a cover of Asylum City?

Zydar · « **Reply #906 on:** July 02, 2011, 01:24:20 AM »

A translation from his Swedish twitter account he posted from yesterday:

"Road Salt Two is now mixed, mastered, and DONE! Ready and eager to be released at the end of September as standard, limited, and vinyl".

necrotomist · « **Reply #907 on:** July 02, 2011, 01:56:41 AM »

Quote from: Zydar on July 02, 2011, 01:24:20 AM

"Road Salt Two is now mixed, mastered, and DONE! Ready and eager to be released at the end of September as standard, limited, and vinyl".

Allthough I'm not a massive fan of their latest work, still looking forward to hear RS2...

perfectchaos180 · « **Reply #908 on:** July 02, 2011, 09:18:07 AM »

So I'm new to this thread...

I really didn't like Road Salt 1. At all. And yes its because they changed style.

I'm not faulting them for changing style, I'm faulting myself for not liking the style. And I am disappointed that they went that direction. I'm not saying they were wrong for doing it, but I am mad that they did. Just because they are one of my favorite bands doesn't mean I have to approve of everything they do.

Road Salt blows

Also the reason most people like TPE and RL the most is because people usually find out about PoS by liking Prog Metal, so generally they will like the albums that are more Prog Metally the most.

ariich · « **Reply #909 on:** July 02, 2011, 09:19:21 AM »

RS1 is one of my favourites.

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Author Topic: Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged) (Read 424531 times)