Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)

[Adami]

Well if you wanna equate me telling you that I disagree with your opinion to telling you that you're not allowed to have it that's not really my fault after all.

You can disagree, that's cool. I even said it was cool. You said my opinion was silly to have, that's not disagreeing, it's completely disregarding it and saying it's not an opinion worth having.

I don't even care about debating it. Some of us are cool with it, some of us aren't. There really isn't anywhere to take this, I'm not trying to convince you to not like it. I said it was cool that you did. I was just hoping to get a similar amount of respect for my opinion.

[pogoowner]

Regardless of its origins, the song doesn't do much for me. But they haven't released any new material that has impressed me in a very, very long time, so I guess it's not surprising.

[ClairvoyantCat]

You can disagree, that's cool. I even said it was cool. You said my opinion was silly to have, that's not disagreeing, it's completely disregarding it and saying it's not an opinion worth having.

I don't even care about debating it. Some of us are cool with it, some of us aren't. There really isn't anywhere to take this, I'm not trying to convince you to not like it. I said it was cool that you did. I was just hoping to get a similar amount of respect for my opinion.

I respect your opinion and challenged it because I wanted to know the reasoning behind it.  Sorry if my words implied otherwise.  Cut me some slack I'm new here.

[Adami]

I actually thought the song was pretty cool. Not amazing, but pretty good. Although I actually think the original version is a little better.

[Adami]

You can disagree, that's cool. I even said it was cool. You said my opinion was silly to have, that's not disagreeing, it's completely disregarding it and saying it's not an opinion worth having.

I don't even care about debating it. Some of us are cool with it, some of us aren't. There really isn't anywhere to take this, I'm not trying to convince you to not like it. I said it was cool that you did. I was just hoping to get a similar amount of respect for my opinion.

I respect your opinion and challenged it because I wanted to know the reasoning behind it.  Sorry if my words implied otherwise.  Cut me some slack I'm new here.

Definitely an improvement!

See what I did there? I took another quote of mine from something else and repurposed it.

 

[Elite]

"I'm new here."

[ariich]

I lol'ed.

Good to see you though, Seth!

New song is cool - didn't have a big impact on me but I often find it hard to judge songs out of context, especially with PoS.

[Evermind]

I quite liked the new song. Not mindblowing or anything, but I thought it was pretty good. Still, I hope this album has more to offer, because I have high expectations for this one.

[Fritzinger]

Of course I couldn't resist. 

Honestly, I have no desire to listen to it again. But I said the same think about Road Salt I & II. Now I love them.

[Adami]

I actually really like that main melody that I assume is played on a keyboard? Just a cool melody/rhythm to it. The rest of the song I can lose.

[me7]

Sounds to me like a song that can work really well in the context of a concept album.

Doesn't do much for me as a single, but most of my favourite albums don't have great singles.

[bout to crash]

Yeah, can't really judge it without the whole. I'm excited! And slightly aroused by the necrophilia.

[abydos]

Director:
- So, he's going to play dead and you're going to mount him and put your fingers in his mouth and dry hump his "corpse".
Female actor (thoughts) "What did I just walk into, note to fire agent"
- OK.
DG (thoughts) "Giggity!"

[Lynxo]

Daniel sure loves to put himself in awkward positions (giggety!) in their videos.

And yeah, I wasn't aware this was a Ragnar song they just copied and pasted. Seems weird but whatever.

[Lynxo]

Sorry for double post, but somebody already made an acoustic cover of Meaningless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwQTc-fqy8c&sns=fb

Crazy high production value for something that was put together so quickly.

[Destiny Of Chaos]

Daniel sure loves to put himself in awkward positions (giggety!) in their videos.

And yeah, I wasn't aware this was a Ragnar song they just copied and pasted. Seems weird but whatever.

I have no idea who Ragnar is...... but after watching the video and reading up on this song, Daniel G is no longer the most interesting member of Pain of Salvation, which to me is unbelievable!

[Adami]

Sorry for double post, but somebody already made an acoustic cover of Meaningless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwQTc-fqy8c&sns=fb

Crazy high production value for something that was put together so quickly.

Well, they did have 4 years to learn it

[killer_rose]

Just got a press promo copy of their upcoming album. I will not be sharing any of it, so spare your requests. The good thing is, I'm open to answering any questions about it, as long as you give me some time. Please, avoid questions like "how is it?", "is it their best/worst?" - because that's slightly personal and depends on everybody's taste. I'm more open to deeper/more specific questions.

[Lynxo]

Sorry for double post, but somebody already made an acoustic cover of Meaningless. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwQTc-fqy8c&sns=fb

Crazy high production value for something that was put together so quickly.

Well, they did have 4 years to learn it

I guess that's true.

Anybody know where Ragnar's earlier version is? Is it available somewhere?

Just got a press promo copy of their upcoming album. I will not be sharing any of it, so spare your requests. The good thing is, I'm open to answering any questions about it, as long as you give me some time. Please, avoid questions like "how is it?", "is it their best/worst?" - because that's slightly personal and depends on everybody's taste. I'm more open to deeper/more specific questions.

Does it sounds more like classic PoS like they claim? The descriptions I've read makes me think of Remedy Lane, would you say that it's comparable to that album? Does Ragnar have more vocal lead parts?

[Crow]

how long is it

[wolfking]

Is the new single any sort of accurate representation of the entire album?

[ClairvoyantCat]

how long is it

On a Tuesday 10:22
Tongue of God 4:53
Meaningless 4:47
Silent Gold 3:23
Full Throttle Tribe 9:05
Reasons 4:45
Angels of Broken Things 6:24
The Taming of a Beast 6:33
If This Is the End 6:03
The Passing Light of Day 15:31

total 71:46

[abydos]

How are the vocal duties split? And does Ragnar sing most of the high/hard parts?

[killer_rose]

Does it sounds more like classic PoS like they claim? The descriptions I've read makes me think of Remedy Lane, would you say that it's comparable to that album? Does Ragnar have more vocal lead parts?

It does sound more like classic PoS in a way because it's much heavier than Road Salt (actually it just might be their heaviest album ever). But still, I wouldn't say it's a duplicate of any of their other releases. It's not Remedy Lane 2.0 - that's not what you should expect but then again they don't have two albums that sound absolutely the same (except for the parts of Road Salt, but I count them as one project/album). There are some nice references to Remedy Lane (mostly lyrical) that will satisfy the most hardcore fans/nerds. Ragnar has a fair amount of vocals but in the end it's Daniel who stands in the center of the record.

Is the new single any sort of accurate representation of the entire album?

I wouldn't say so. It's a part of this whole puzzle but there's so much more to the album than what you heard so far. It was the same for most of their other first singles, right?

How are the vocal duties split? And does Ragnar sing most of the high/hard parts?

Probably 80% Daniel and 20 % Ragnar. Ragnar sings most of the high parts but there are some other hard parts that are not high - lyrics sung in an original/staccato way (like Fandango's verses) that are sung/screamed by Daniel. It's actually not an album of many high tones if you know what I mean - but it's an album of beautiful/heartfelt melodies.

[LordCost]

Heaviest album ever?
That's really interesting. At the moment I'm imagining heavy songs in the style of Used, Foreword, Revival, Handful Of Nothing with their new sound

[killer_rose]

Heaviest album ever?
That's really interesting. At the moment I'm imagining heavy songs in the style of Used, Foreword, Revival, Handful Of Nothing with their new sound

I guess you won't be disappointed. Btw, second single coming out by the end of December and it's gonna be a HEAVY one! 

[LordCost]

 

[wolfking]

I don't really classify much of what POS has done as heavy, but saying that it could be their heaviest album yet has resparked my interest a little.

[RoeDent]

But remember that bands always have these "hook phrases" when promoting a new album, to do exactly that: hook you in. Then the album comes and more often than not it's not *quite* as up there as the band's pre-release statements would suggest.

[killer_rose]

But remember that bands always have these "hook phrases" when promoting a new album, to do exactly that: hook you in. Then the album comes and more often than not it's not *quite* as up there as the band's pre-release statements would suggest.

True that. This time it's heavy though... Like almost djent-y riffs and breakdowns here and there.

[Elite]

But remember that bands always have these "hook phrases" when promoting a new album, to do exactly that: hook you in. Then the album comes and more often than not it's not *quite* as up there as the band's pre-release statements would suggest.

True that. This time it's heavy though... Like almost djent-y riffs and breakdowns here and there.

Really now? That's interesting!

[CrimsonSunrise]

Wow, really like the sound of the new song. Hopefully the whole album will kick some serious ass!

[LordCost]

I relisten the single and I really like it, I was not impressed after the first listen. As Adami I'm a bit disappointed it is basically a cover of Ragnar's band, even if it sound 100% Pain Of Salvation.

[Tomislav95]

Spoken part gave me strong TPE/Remedy Lane vibe which is instant hype to me

[killer_rose]

I relisten the single and I really like it, I was not impressed after the first listen. As Adami I'm a bit disappointed it is basically a cover of Ragnar's band, even if it sound 100% Pain Of Salvation.

I get the initial reaction but I believe they made the right choice with that single because this way they left so many surprises for the full listening experience. As a part of the album "Meaningless" sounds fresh and right on spot and there's a great reprise/reference to it later in the album (kinda like all the reprises/referencing melodies in Remedy Lane). It's an album that you're gonna need to listen to many times in order to get all the hiding brilliant details. Can't wait for you all to hear it! And btw - "If This Is The End" + the title track serve as such an emotional final punch. I find myself so moved every time I listen to it.