Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)

[Zydar]

Niiiice

[Lynxo]

I feel the same way, it really does sound like old school PoS, like they said. And the addition of Ragnar sounds really awesome as well, they really benefit from his vocal skills.

[abydos]

My hopes were up for about a minute, from 0:30 to about 1:40, right up until the vocals kicked in. Didn't like that at all, the chorus was cool and Ragnar sounds great but still I would have loved for Daniel to sing those parts instead.
The ending is cool, but it's just a longer version of what I liked in the beginning.

Maybe I would have liked the song a little more without the video. That shit is fucked up. Overall, it exceeded my expectations but they were incredibly low.

[wolfking]

Damn, says video not available for me. 

[Skeever]

That was not good

[SoundscapeMN]

https://www.vevo.com/watch/pain-of-salvation/Meaningless/GBF861777301

[home]

Oh Yeah  That was pretty awesome, really hyped for the album now.

[SoundscapeMN]

looks like the YouTube link is back up.

Also it's more or less a remake of Ragnar's band's old song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oc_htMelcM

[Mebert78]

I definitely like the song more than most of the Road Salt albums.  But is that a woman having sex with Daniel's corpse in the new video?  I like dark stuff, but even that's a little too dark for me.  And too much shirtless Daniel for me too -- first the album cover, now the video.

[Phoenix87x]

I like it 

[ChuckSteak]

It's an ok song, but I expected much more.

[wolfking]

I don't think this song is very good at all.  Sounds just like Road Salt stuff to me.

[seasonsinthesky]

I love it. New direction, but combines both the old old (TPE) with the old (Road Salt) in really interesting ways.

First listen: Vocals are the only thing making this great.
Further listens: This song is really great! I just had to get past the weird synth and the drum mix.

Really looking forward to the album, but I need to hear it before I buy it.

[bout to crash]

, that video is amazing! The song isn't bad, looking forward to hearing actual new material.

[Adami]

looks like the YouTube link is back up.

Also it's more or less a remake of Ragnar's band's old song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oc_htMelcM

I heard a bit of the new song, and it was cool, will listen to it all soon. However, I really don't like that they just took another song, and essentially just renamed it.

I mean, would we be cool if Alter Bridge took a Creed song, renamed it and released it under their name?

[NoseofNicko]

looks like the YouTube link is back up.

Also it's more or less a remake of Ragnar's band's old song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oc_htMelcM

I heard a bit of the new song, and it was cool, will listen to it all soon. However, I really don't like that they just took another song, and essentially just renamed it.

I mean, would we be cool if Alter Bridge took a Creed song, renamed it and released it under their name?

Well, it's different. The guy who wrote the song is in the band. I don't really like it either though. I like the song, but that makes me appreciate it less.

Edit: Ah ok I see the link between Alter Bridge and Creed.

[Adami]

Most of Creed is in Alterbridge, so it would be no different at all.

[NoseofNicko]

Yeah I edited my post.

[Adami]

Yeah I edited my post.

I'll edit your face!


Hmmmmm.....sorry.

[NoseofNicko]

 

[Adami]

I'm too lazy and disappointed to check, but did they just cover the song? Did they change the lyrics or anything else besides the title?

[Crow]

the sign version is better tbh, lol... not feeling hyped for this album if they're opening with what's basically a cover

[gilpdawg]

looks like the YouTube link is back up.

Also it's more or less a remake of Ragnar's band's old song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oc_htMelcM

I heard a bit of the new song, and it was cool, will listen to it all soon. However, I really don't like that they just took another song, and essentially just renamed it.  Granted, that stuff wasn't widely released, this was pre-Bonded era, but whatevs.

I mean, would we be cool if Alter Bridge took a Creed song, renamed it and released it under their name?

Nobody cried foul when Metallica took chunks of Exodus' material that Kirk wrote.

[abydos]

by chunks do you mean 95%? it's weird that they release a cover of another band's song as the single and video (and keep quiet about it)  for their upcoming album, an album that is supposed to be a concept one inspired by the recent events in DG's life, so unless this song is a japanese bonus version or something, it doesn't make much sense tbh.

It's like DT re-recording a Mullmuzzler song for SFAM and releasing it out as a video and single.

[Elite]

Was the Sign song ever released on an album?

[Zantera]

So many jimmies rustled over a song. It's a song we're talking about. Like it or dislike it, I feel like this whole discussion is just silly.

[Elite]

So do I, and I don't really care about it being a reworked version of an older song.

[ClairvoyantCat]

lol everyone complains all the time that Pain of Salvation is the Gildenlow show and then complain even more when they use another member's song.  I woulda been annoyed if it was a song we'd all heard being reworked but I don't think any of of listened to Ragnar's old band's B sides.  Daniel himself said Ragnar would be a writing force in the band and I got the feeling no one would be upset if an old PoS B-side found its way onto the album.  I think the weirder thing about this is someone other than Daniel writing a song for Pain of Salvation which I'm pretty sure has never happened aside from Frederic writing the piano part to Iter Impius.

The song/video itself I'm not too wild about.  I feel like it's on par with their older singles like Ashes and Ending Theme.

[bout to crash]

I do like the song, but I agree that it's weird this is what they are releasing to represent what is supposed to be a very personal album about a specific experience Daniel had. I don't mind that they redid the song or that Ragnar is involved in writing (he can be "involved" in anything he wants ), but it does seem a bit strange, death-related or not. Like abydos said, unless it's a bonus track or something.

[Adami]

looks like the YouTube link is back up.

Also it's more or less a remake of Ragnar's band's old song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oc_htMelcM

I heard a bit of the new song, and it was cool, will listen to it all soon. However, I really don't like that they just took another song, and essentially just renamed it.  Granted, that stuff wasn't widely released, this was pre-Bonded era, but whatevs.

I mean, would we be cool if Alter Bridge took a Creed song, renamed it and released it under their name?

Nobody cried foul when Metallica took chunks of Exodus' material that Kirk wrote.

This isn't taking a riff and putting it into another song. This is taking an entire song and simply renaming it.

This also isn't the case of another person contributing to the writing, it's taking stuff they wrote years ago for another band that was officially released and just re-recording it and renaming it.

If you're totally cool with it, awesome. But please don't tell those of us who don't like that we're being silly and should stop discussing it.

[ClairvoyantCat]

It's Ragnar's song why can't he do what he wants with it?

[Adami]

It's Ragnar's song why can't he do what he wants with it?

He can do whatever he wants with it. He can take a song he wrote for another band that was officially released, teach it to Daniel, have then rename and release it as a PoS song.

And I'm allowed to not like the idea of it.

[ClairvoyantCat]

ok but it does seem really silly to me..  The fact that he happened to put it on some obscure release makes it so much more detestable than if it was just some old demo of his that never saw the light until it seemed useful for this album. 

[Adami]

Alright, so apparently it's not cool to not like what happened. I'm out.

[ClairvoyantCat]

Well if you wanna equate me telling you that I disagree with your opinion to telling you that you're not allowed to have it that's not really my fault after all.