Pain of Salvation thread, v.2 (merged)

[Zantera]

I really quite dig it.
Has a weird kind of vibe to it, and it is pretty crazy, but it manages to get a lot of stuff into 4 minutes or so. (cant remember the length of it)
I first heard it on Second Death of, and it was kinda cool in contrast to Scarsick, the first two songs that clicked for me in general.

How you described 'America' would probably be my description for 'Disco Queen' instead.
That song is probably even more out there, but it doesn't quite grab me in the same way.
I know a lot of people praise 'Enter Rain', and I'll agree that it is one of the better songs on the album overall, though it hasn't quite clicked for me yet, not in the same way as the other epic closing songs at least. (Plains of Dawn, The Perfect Element, Beyond the Pale)

Cribcaged and Kingdom of Loss are two good examples of what I mean by 'good songs with somewhat bad lyrics', the former would probably work really well in a Brickwork-type of thing, aka. take a few mins of Cribcaged and forge it together with a few minutes of another song, and it could be really cool.
KoL is great musically, but the "between two bouncing breasts, on a baywatch beach" is just one of several lines that puts me slightly off with the song.

[Adami]

I totally agree about Disco Queen, well it's just the chorus that I don't like.........which seems to be everyones favorite part.

And yea, Enter Rain is good, but no where near the other closers. It's just the chorus that drags it down for me, I dunno....I feel nothing from listening to it.

And yea, Kingdom of Loss I think is their most wasted opportunity. The music is great, and so are some of the lyrics, but some of them are just....horrible.

[MirzekDT]

Scarsick may need A LOT of time to grow, but when it finally clicks... it's absolutely amazing.

This. I really disliked Scarsick for many months but after A LOT of time it started clicking song by song beginning with Idiocracy and now I really love every song on that album.

I agree that the chorus in Enter Rain isn't that great or at least not as great as much it is repeated in the song, and I also think that "fuck this... fuck that..." lyrics in Cribcaged are repeated too much. But those are the only flaws I can think of. Scarsick is real masterpiece and while TPE and RL which used to be my favorites few years ago didn't age well Scarsick aged very well.

[The King in Crimson]

On a side-note, I do love Flame to the Moth, America and the title-track.
The rest would fall under the ranges of 'haven't clicked' or 'decent, but not more'.

I really like the second half of the album, but the first half... kinda sucks. Makes for a weird listening experience.

Also, Kingdom of Loss is a terrible follow-up to King of Loss.

[Adami]

On a side-note, I do love Flame to the Moth, America and the title-track.
The rest would fall under the ranges of 'haven't clicked' or 'decent, but not more'.

I really like the second half of the album, but the first half... kinda sucks. Makes for a weird listening experience.

Also, Kingdom of Loss is a terrible follow-up to King of Loss.

They really should have named that song something different, because it's musically quite good, even some good lyrics "if you're tearing down my world...." and so forth, but it doesn't seem connected to King of Loss, which is an opus.

[The King in Crimson]

I'm actually really not at all that impressed with it either musically or lyrically. Daniel's spoken word part just annoys me.

Fortunately, after KoL, the album really seems to pick up steam. Mrs. Modern Mother Mary -> Enter Rain is all pretty good. I always have to resist skipping tracks to get to that part when listening to the full album.

[Adami]

I'm actually really not at all that impressed with it either musically or lyrically. Daniel's spoken word part just annoys me.

Fortunately, after KoL, the album really seems to pick up steam. Mrs. Modern Mother Mary -> Enter Rain is all pretty good. I always have to resist skipping tracks to get to that part when listening to the full album.

When I listen to Scarsick (which I admit........isn't often), I skip to track 6. And I have to suffer through some AWFUL lyrics in Idiocracy.

[Liberation]

For me the only unimpressive song on the album is Mrs. Modern Mother Mary, but only musically, because lyrically it's also very sad and very true. The others all have something amazing about them, some clicked very quickly (the title track got me into the album and - yes - band overall; Kingdom of Loss; of course Enter Rain), some took plenty of time but when they did it was like being enlightened (Spitfall and Flame To The Moth are top of the list).

For me the album is humanity's greatest masterpiece in the "owned with your own weapons" category. It talks about everything that's fucked up in the modern world using all sorts of modern music and terms, and it's straightforward about it.

[wolfking]

For me, it's my fav POS release and every song is brilliant.

[pain of occupation]

Scarsick = how to (essentially) drop the guitar solo and still make a great record.

I think America could be my least favorite PoS song ever. I guess the banjo break down is cool, but oh my god it's just an annoying song.

really?! america's not only "fun" (which is kinda few n far between with POS) but one of the few songs of daniel's i feel comfortable throwing on a playlist for a social gathering.

the only scarsick song that i'd say doesn't leave me feeling totally satisfied is enter rain.

[Adami]

Sorry, can't stand America.


In fact I guess you could say I'm sick of America.

[Nick]

[Liberation]

What o_O

[TheVoxyn]

dammitnick

[Adami]

2 Questions.


1. Where did you get it?
2. Is it as lame as I think it's going to be?

[LieLowTheWantedMan]

Nick acquired it illegally. The whole leak-hating thing has been an act all along.

[ariich]

I'm fairly sure he got a promo version.

[Gadough]

Oh, that's the new album. This whole time I thought Nick was calling out Adami for something, and I couldn't for the life of me figure out what it was.

[NecessaryPain]

My money's on a photoshop.

[pain of occupation]

nick > the rest of us

at least he aint flaunting a new t shirt with it this time (just remembering his early beardfish copy)

[wolfking]

Nick got new POS and Redemption, lucky bastard.

[Zantera]

My money's on a photoshop.

Not really.
A friend of mine has had the album for quite a while now, sadly for me he won't share it.

[contest_sanity]

I request the entire new album for next Monday night Nick.

DO IT

[Nick]

Can't play from the album yet, but hopefully by Monday I'll have a review done.

[contest_sanity]

Interested to see that; let us know when it's posted.

[Vahvahenki]

I hate to bump this thread for a question of this silliness but what about PoS merch? Was Scarsick not only an album but a statement coinciding with a lack of available merchandise?

[jonny108]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_h6YCf6qqqU

[pogoowner]

Sounds extremely similar to Road Salt One, not surprisingly.

[Lynxo]

I actually REALLY, really like what I'm hearing. I didn't dislike a single song I heard. This might turn out to be a much better album than I thought.

[Silver Tears]

Ah awesome! Really liked the sound of that, now I can't wait for the album 

[wolfking]

I'm holding my judgement, it seems okay, but I'm not keen to make a solid opinion.

[Silver Tears]

I'm the exact opposite, I love it already even though I've only heard 30 sec clips 

[Adami]

I liked all but two of the samples.

Conditioned just sounded boring, and Physics of Gridlock just sounded....................weird.

[Gorille85]

Samples sounds good! This shall be interesting!

[Dynia]

The samples sound okay. Not good enough to make me really excited about the new album, but i'm not disappointed by them.