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Started by PlaysLikeMyung, August 20, 2010, 07:31:28 PM

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blackngold29

Quote from: ariich on August 24, 2010, 03:06:56 AM
Quote from: blackngold29 on August 24, 2010, 12:52:49 AM
I just don't see how you can put a rating on how much fighting capacity Dumbledore has because he never lost a fight; I suspect that at his full force Voldemort is the only one who could even gotten close to beating him. Gandalf did kind of die, and he never even fought Sauron.
1) Gandalf didn't actually die, and 2) he let himself fall so that the others could escape, which is apparently why Dumbledore is so badass. :P
Gandalf let himself fall, yes, but he didn't die from the fall. He was so weakened by his fight with the balrog that for all intensive purposes it killed him. He only returned because the gods of middle earth (whose proper name escapes me at the moment) sent him back as Gandalf the White so he could help out the good guys in the fight.

Sir GuitarCozmo


bosk1

I'm just thinking back to LOTR.  I mean, Balrogs were nothing to be messed with.  Gandalf basically just said, "yo, balroggy, you ain't comin' this way" and that was that.  He didn't have to do anything fancy.  Ole' 'roggy was just like, "Oh...er...uh...well then, I'll just...um...stand her and roar and look menacing then...and...uh...yeah."

If Gandalf and Dumblypie ever got into it, I imagine it would play out something like:
-Dumblewumble unleashes the fookin' fury with all he's got.
-While he's doing that, Gandalf sits down and has a couple of tea.
-When he's done, we walks over and clocks Dumbledweeb in the temple with his staff.
-Dumble crumples to the floor.  Gandalf wins.  Flawless victory.

Sir GuitarCozmo

Dumbledee and Dumbledum?

Jarlaxle


MetalManiac666

Quote from: bösk1 on August 26, 2010, 08:41:42 AM
I'm just thinking back to LOTR.  I mean, Balrogs were nothing to be messed with.  Gandalf basically just said, "yo, balroggy, you ain't comin' this way" and that was that.  He didn't have to do anything fancy.  Ole' 'roggy was just like, "Oh...er...uh...well then, I'll just...um...stand her and roar and look menacing then...and...uh...yeah."

If Gandalf and Dumblypie ever got into it, I imagine it would play out something like:
-Dumblewumble unleashes the fookin' fury with all he's got.
-While he's doing that, Gandalf sits down and has a couple of tea.
-When he's done, we walks over and clocks Dumbledweeb in the temple with his staff.
-Dumble crumples to the floor.  Gandalf wins.  Flawless victory.

Flawless victory indeed.

emindead

Quote from: Sigz on August 22, 2010, 04:29:14 PM
Quote from: emindead on August 22, 2010, 09:45:24 AM
J.K. Rowling saying that Dumbledore's gay, without any textual evidence, and just to satisfy a personal view of some readers is a pathetic way to merchandise more this product.
Ignoring the fact that him being gay actually helped explain a lot of his actions in the past, I'm sure there were tons of people who hadn't touched the series for ten years that suddenly ran out and bought it because one of the characters was gay.
Ah, taking the hammock reader's opinion. Lol. What else are you going to say now, that some events in Rowling's life explain some passages of this book? :lol

I said: there's no textual evidence of Dumbledore being gay. Please show me a passage where it says he's gay or it is specifically implied.

If Dumbledore is really gay, because that was the intention of the author, then in that case the reader will just have to disown it. She should have made it clear. She didn't. She did not achieve to convey her message.

LeeHarveyKennedy

Quote from: emindead on August 26, 2010, 09:48:46 PM
Quote from: Sigz on August 22, 2010, 04:29:14 PM
Quote from: emindead on August 22, 2010, 09:45:24 AM
J.K. Rowling saying that Dumbledore's gay, without any textual evidence, and just to satisfy a personal view of some readers is a pathetic way to merchandise more this product.
Ignoring the fact that him being gay actually helped explain a lot of his actions in the past, I'm sure there were tons of people who hadn't touched the series for ten years that suddenly ran out and bought it because one of the characters was gay.
Ah, taking the hammock reader's opinion. Lol. What else are you going to say now, that some events in Rowling's life explain some passages of this book? :lol

I said: there's no textual evidence of Dumbledore being gay. Please show me a passage where it says he's gay or it is specifically implied.

If Dumbledore is really gay, because that was the intention of the author, then in that case the reader will just have to disown it. She should have made it clear. She didn't. She did not achieve to convey her message.

Seriously, am I the only one who actually got the sense he was gay while just reading the books? Or do I just have a literary gaydar?

Sigz

What the fuck?

SPOILERS HARRY DONT FUCKING READ THIS



Dumbledore ignored all the signs of Grindewald's evil and ambitions at power and it wasn't until it was far too late that he did anything about it. Why? Because he had been his best friend, gay, and in love with him, and even after all the shit that happened between them he still couldn't get over that.

The reason it's not explicitly stated or implied is because it's totally peripheral. It explains events that occurred 70 years before the series, and in the end has virtually no affect on the series overall. It's a side trait that explains some of his actions, and could have been inferred by a reader.

Either way, the point is moot; there's no way Rowling just said he was gay to try to boost sales. What a ridiculous claim to make.

bosk1

Oh yeah?  Well, you're gay just to boost sales, so there!

ariich

Quote from: bösk1 on August 26, 2010, 11:10:40 PM
Oh yeah?  Well, you're gay just to boost sales, so there!
Personal attack, bant.

Quote from: Buddyhunter1 on May 10, 2023, 05:59:19 PMAriich is a freak, or somehow has more hours in the day than everyone else.
Quote from: TAC on December 21, 2023, 06:05:15 AMI be am boner inducing.

Sigz

Quote from: bösk1 on August 26, 2010, 11:10:40 PM
Oh yeah?  Well, you're gay just to boost sales, so there!

No, I'm gay because Rich is too hot to pass ignore, AND he defends my honor! *swoons*

bosk1


emindead

SPOILERS, HARRY

Quote from: Sigz on August 26, 2010, 10:02:07 PM
What the fuck?

SPOILERS HARRY DONT FUCKING READ THIS

*ARGUMENT*
I'm gonna re-read that specific part. What I remember from reading it the first time, three years ago, was that: "Oh, Dumbledore had his really good friend that we didn't know about. It reminds me of Frodo and his great friend Sam, Merry and his great friend Pippin, Harry and his great friend Ron". Dumbledore and his great friend Grindelwald.

Gadough

Quote from: LeeHarveyKennedy on August 26, 2010, 09:54:08 PM
Seriously, am I the only one who actually got the sense he was gay while just reading the books? Or do I just have a literary gaydar?

Regarding the subject change, I'm pretty sure EVERY character in The Great Gatsby is gay.

lonestar

SPOILERS HARRY







You fucking read it anyways, didn't you?