Thrash Metal Discussion/ Appreciation

[billboy73]

Enjoyed the new Kreator single, can't wait to hear the full album.  I didn't love Gods of Violence, it's my least favorite of their albums since Violent Revolution.  Sounds like they stepped it up for this one.  Been a longtime Kreator fan, and I enjoy a lot of the 90's stuff as well.

[nick_z]

Enjoyed the new Kreator single, can't wait to hear the full album.  I didn't love Gods of Violence, it's my least favorite of their albums since Violent Revolution.  Sounds like they stepped it up for this one.  Been a longtime Kreator fan, and I enjoy a lot of the 90's stuff as well.

Me too! Some interesting material there, off the beaten path for sure. I really like Endorama too, although it's pretty much a gothic-metal version of Kreator 

[Grappler]

I LOVE what Kreator has been doing since Violent Revolution.  Killer thrash, killer production and incredibly ferocious.  The last handful of albums have been fantastic and I'm looking forward to the new one!

[billboy73]

Enjoyed the new Kreator single, can't wait to hear the full album.  I didn't love Gods of Violence, it's my least favorite of their albums since Violent Revolution.  Sounds like they stepped it up for this one.  Been a longtime Kreator fan, and I enjoy a lot of the 90's stuff as well.

Me too! Some interesting material there, off the beaten path for sure. I really like Endorama too, although it's pretty much a gothic-metal version of Kreator 

I love Endorama!  Some really good stuff on that album.  When I decided I wanted to get into Kreator in the early 2000's, I went to the record shop to grab some.  The first 2 albums I bought were Extreme Aggression and Endorama.  I had heard Extreme Aggression, but picked Endorama without hearing it.  I loved both, but they sound quite different... 

[MinistroRaven]

TESTAMENT Welcomes Back the Godfather of Thrash and Undoubtedly One of the Greatest Drummers in Metal History: DAVE LOMBARDO

https://www.sonicperspectives.com/news/testament-announces-dave-lombardo-as-their-new-drummer/

[TAC]

That's awesome. I saw they were making the announcement today.

[ProfessorPeart]

I know there is a Testament thread around here somewhere. Pretty sure I made a wish for Dave, and it came true!

[wolfking]

TESTAMENT Welcomes Back the Godfather of Thrash and Undoubtedly One of the Greatest Drummers in Metal History: DAVE LOMBARDO

https://www.sonicperspectives.com/news/testament-announces-dave-lombardo-as-their-new-drummer/

Yeah nice.

[MinistroRaven]

I know there is a Testament thread around here somewhere. Pretty sure I made a wish for Dave, and it came true!

Couldn’t find it

[twosuitsluke]

I've just found this all encompassing thrash metal playlist...

https://open.spotify.com/playlist/1DVU0Zy0B5MX5B6ZG7ohfO?si=h3pOpuJyQTeDHbl_JErX0w&utm_source=copy-link

It has everything basically. I've been sticking it on shuffle and it's chucking so many bands I've never heard of, amongst all the incredible thrash I do know.

If you're itching for something new, probably a good place to start.

[jammindude]

Does it have Nuclear Assault? I declare any playlist missing Nuclear Assault to be invalid. 

[twosuitsluke]

Does it have Nuclear Assault? I declare any playlist missing Nuclear Assault to be invalid. 

Yes! Not only does it have Nuclear Assault, it also has Nuclear, Nuclear Omnicide, Nuclear Salvation, Nuclear Warfare and Nucleator! It's pretty impressive honestly.

[DoctorAction]

Does it have Nuclear Assault? I declare any playlist missing Nuclear Assault to be invalid.   

Love Nuclear Assault. 

[twosuitsluke]

Two classic thrash bands that have come back with absolute belters this year? Megadeth and Kreator!

Obviously fair bit of talk about Megadeth's latest (rightly so), but also the latest Kreator is just great.

Currently listening again and it may actually be my favourite Kreator album, it's that fucking good. I find it incredible bands can release albums this good, at this point in their career!

[wolfking]

Jeez, I didn't take to the Kreator at all, and I really liked the last couple.  Maybe I need to try it again.

[jammindude]

I have always wondered if there was an inherent burnout factor with thrash.

I followed Kreator from all the way back when Pleasure to Kill came out. I still think they peaked with Extreme Aggression. But I thought Coma of Souls was a huge letdown, and now I always see everyone else hail it as their masterpiece. I may have just been burnt out on thrash at that point considering I had been ravenously following all those bands since late 85/early 86.

[wolfking]

I've never been able to indulge in long periods of thrash.  It's something I kind of randomly jump in and out of.

[King Postwhore]

There's a band that does bluegrass thrash and I've got to tell you, I love it!


They are called The Native Howl.

[contest_sanity]

Probably have mentioned them before, but just happened to be listening today to one of the best (and extremely underrated) thrash bands out there: Believer (probs underrated bc they were in the christian scene in the early 90's... though their lyrics are pretty indecipherable and they even toured with bands like Bolt Thrower)

my fave song by them is "Idols of Ignorance" and i have always said that if the concept of the phrase "metal militia" were to be distilled down to one riff and one riff only, it would be the riff at 2:24 in this song, which i will link to below.

the whole album, though -- Sanity Obscure -- is really a masterclass in technical thrash.

THE GOAT METAL MILITIA RIFF: https://youtu.be/Lvwzbq0z0jQ?t=143

[contest_sanity]

ADDITIONAL AUTISTIC INFODUMP BONUS DOUBLE-POST lol

AND ALSO A QUESTION???

soooooo if like tech/progressive thrash, you should really also peep Tourniquet, another band underrated bc of their christian nature imo (much more overt in their lyrics but so talented musically):

"Gazing At Medusa" (ft. solo from Chris Poland): https://youtu.be/x6oD01gzp70

i especially love their signature riff pattern at the 2:02 mark, which i dont know if that kind of riff has a musical name but they do it a lot and it's always so cool to me. Another example (time-stamped):

- "Perfect Night For A Hanging" https://youtu.be/r298kgdQmCk?t=158

lastly -- RIP to Tourniquet's late drummer/band leader Ted Kirkpatrick, who died unexpectedly a few months back -- incredible drummer who also wrote basically all of the bands guitar parts as well...

back when DT was holding auditions in 2010 I really wanted Kirkpatrick to get a shot at it (not that he would have even been interested necessarily), but he def had the technical skills to hang in DT and would have been a really interesting addition bc of his neoclassical tech-thrash style

*peep instrumentals like "Viento Borrascoso (Devastating Wind)" and "Immunity Vector" if you'd like to gauge for yourself how good and also innovative of a drummer he was:

https://youtu.be/egbhTXgqOzE?t=19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEY_0fNGwwg

anyways thanks for coming to my autistic infodump / "TED" talk (lol pun somewhat intended)

[nick_z]

Figured I'd ask this on the thrash metal thread...

I have a pretty significant hole in my thrash "education" when it comes to Nuclear Assault.

I know little to nothing. I'm planning to stream some of their stuff (they don't seem to have a particularly lengthy discography anyway), but since it's fun to discuss, what is the opinion of the connoisseurs here on DTF? Any guidance on what is considered their best material? 

[jammindude]

The first three albums are all excellent. But to my ears, Handle With Care is their masterpiece and should be in the discussion for top 5 thrash albums of all time.

Some people prefer their second album Survive, but I feel HWC shows them at their songwriting and production peak.

EDIT - there’s a pretty sharp drop off in quality after HWC. And I just picked up their final EP Pounder and was pretty disappointed. Some ok ideas, but it sounds like an unfinished demo.

[nick_z]

Thank you, JDude!

I remember reviews of Something Wicked on music magazines when it came out, and it was basically ripped to shreds...I will definitely check out their 80s albums...

[jammindude]

FWIW, I never did check out their 2005 comeback album Third World Genocide and I’ve always felt a bit guilty about that. Because in 1989, they were definitely one of my favorite bands.  I feel like I should try and find that album on my next haul. Anyone else know if that album lived up to the first three?

[DoctorAction]

I absolutely love Game Over, their debut, and everything up to and including Handle With Care is also great, imo.

I also didn't get to Third World Genocide until a lot later. Seem to recall that it was pretty reasonable, but I never went back to it.

But, yeah, the early stuff is fantastic. I love how on Game Over the songs all start with fast chuggy riffing and THEN the drums come in about 15% faster. 🤣 I first learned to play fast, thrash rhythm guitar by playing along to this album over and over. 🙂

[RodrigoAltaf]

The new Overkill album is AWESOME. They are incredibly consistent.

[RodrigoAltaf]

 My interview with Bobby Blitz of Overkill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDm-bQj_2-o&t=1s

 Hope you guys like it.

[twosuitsluke]

Figured I'd ask this on the thrash metal thread...

I have a pretty significant hole in my thrash "education" when it comes to Nuclear Assault.

I know little to nothing. I'm planning to stream some of their stuff (they don't seem to have a particularly lengthy discography anyway), but since it's fun to discuss, what is the opinion of the connoisseurs here on DTF? Any guidance on what is considered their best material?

Nuclear Assault are one of my many thrash blindspots. I'm somewhat familiar with some of their more famous stuff. I'm listening to Game Over now, as it happens.

[Samsara]

Got some big news over the holiday weekend. Death Angel and Forbidden will be playing two special Christmas shows together in San Francisco in December. Pretty pumped. I'm a huge Death Angel fan (went to their Xmas show several years ago and and it was amazing), and while I'm a newer big fan of Forbidden (that has just gotten back together with a new singer), their guitarist, Craig, is a great guy and we're acquaintances who had a mutual friend and we've connected because of that.

Wife and I hoping to go to both shows. Tickets on sale in August, I believe Craig said. It'll be at the Great American Music Hall in SF.

I have Forbidden's Omega Wave album, and the classic Twisted Info Form and love them both. Sounds like Forbidden is just playing a festival or two this summer and spending the rest of the year leading into those Christmas shows writing and recording a new album. If it's anything like their last one (Omega Wave) from 10 or 11 years ago, I'll be very pleased. 

[LithoJazzoSphere]

Hopefully Smyth will still be a part of it, he elevates everything he's on. 

[RodrigoAltaf]

My eyes and ears are ready for a sonic onslaught today - I'll be checking out Death Angel, Sepultura and Kreator in Toronto tonight! Looking forward to it...there's been some great bills lately, but this one will be special. I haven't seen Sepultura live since 1991!

[Samsara]

Death Angel is one of my favs. Enjoy! 

[RodrigoAltaf]

Death Angel is one of my favs. Enjoy! 

 They all CRUSHED it...Death Angel played a really short set though, only six songs. All good...there was so much metal through the night that my ears are still ringing. I dare say that Kreator was the "winner" of the night. Their stage props and lightning were incredible! As a Brazilian I'm always proud to see Sepultura get a lot of attention in North America, and their set was great as well, with Eloy's mesmerizing performance absolutely stealing the show.

[twosuitsluke]

Kreator’s latest was easily one of the best thrash albums of ‘22. I’d love to see them live, I feel their aged really well and are still putting out relevant thrash. Alongside bands like Testament they are one of th me few OG thrash bands who are still killing it.

[RodrigoAltaf]

Kreator’s latest was easily one of the best thrash albums of ‘22. I’d love to see them live, I feel their aged really well and are still putting out relevant thrash. Alongside bands like Testament they are one of th me few OG thrash bands who are still killing it.

Yeah, the album ia really cool. I like it when bands with a lot of history still manage to put out material that does justice to their classic period. Kreator, Destruction, Death Angel, Overkill and others are still relevant and releasing great stuff.