Question for anti gay marriage people.

[Durg]

By "you" I didn't mean you specifically 

I just meant people in general that oppose gay marriage, not really referring to you at all. And I know you aren't forcing your beliefs either, I just felt like commenting.

Hope that clears it up. 

Oh I see.   

I think I covered that in the last few sentences.   

I will add this.  "Normal" marriage doesn't look to good right now.  Christians are some of the biggest groups of people that can't hold marriages together.  It's really shameful.  The family and marriage is on the rocks and changing the definition of marriage as we have always known it would be seen as another crack in the wall.  It is my personal belief that pornography and cohabitation are doing more damage to the institution of marriage than the anything that politicians could do concerning gay marriage. 

To summarize, Christians are hurting marriage more than gays.

[SovereignDream]

Yeah.  It's definitely unnatural.  That's why no other species except humans display            tendencies.

Well, Ibexes scratch their ass with their horns...
does this mean we should grow horns and scratch our own asses with them?
Or better yet - scratch other people's asses with them?

Yes, just what we need. Hornier people.

I see what you did there...

[Adami]

By "you" I didn't mean you specifically 

I just meant people in general that oppose gay marriage, not really referring to you at all. And I know you aren't forcing your beliefs either, I just felt like commenting.

Hope that clears it up. 

Oh I see.   

I think I covered that in the last few sentences.   

I will add this.  "Normal" marriage doesn't look to good right now.  Christians are some of the biggest groups of people that can't hold marriages together.  It's really shameful.  The family and marriage is on the rocks and changing the definition of marriage as we have always known it would be seen as another crack in the wall.  It is my personal belief that pornography and cohabitation are doing more damage to the institution of marriage than the anything that politicians could do concerning gay marriage. 

To summarize, Christians are hurting marriage more than gays.

Well I agree that straight people are fudging up marriage, but gays haven't done anythign to it.

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Fudging up marriage?  You know Christians aren't allowed to go 3rd input, right?

FWIW, I do not think there's anything wrong with it.  Let gays have marriage, let them live their lives free from oppression.

[Adami]

Fudging up marriage?  You know Christians aren't allowed to go 3rd input, right?

FWIW, I do not think there's anything wrong with it.  Let gays have marriage, let them live their lives free from oppression.

3rd input?

[bosk1]

Yeah.  It's definitely unnatural.  That's why no other species except humans display            tendencies.

Well, Ibexes scratch their ass with their horns...
does this mean we should grow horns and scratch our own asses with them?
Or better yet - scratch other people's asses with them?

Well, but imagine walking into a club, and being able to walk up to a cutie and say, "Hey, baby.  You know, it really is true what they say about guys with big horns.   "

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Fudging up marriage?  You know Christians aren't allowed to go 3rd input, right?

FWIW, I do not think there's anything wrong with it.  Let gays have marriage, let them live their lives free from oppression.

3rd input?

Anal

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

Yeah.  It's definitely unnatural.  That's why no other species except humans display            tendencies.

Well, Ibexes scratch their ass with their horns...
does this mean we should grow horns and scratch our own asses with them?
Or better yet - scratch other people's asses with them?

Well, but imagine walking into a club, and being able to walk up to a cutie and say, "Hey, baby.  You know, it really is true what they say about guys with big horns.  "

They leave really gnarly scratches on their own asses?

[Adami]

Fudging up marriage?  You know Christians aren't allowed to go 3rd input, right?

FWIW, I do not think there's anything wrong with it.  Let gays have marriage, let them live their lives free from oppression.

3rd input?

Anal

If anal isn't allowed, then neither is oral. Or fingering, or hand jobs, or fisting, or midget tossing. None of it.

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

I was taking the "fudging" up marriage thought and making an (apparently rather obtuse) anal joke out of it.

[Adami]

I was taking the "fudging" up marriage thought and making an (apparently rather obtuse) anal joke out of it.

You wanted to make an anal joke out of marriage?



Are you gay?

[SovereignDream]

Fudging up marriage?  You know Christians aren't allowed to go 3rd input, right?

FWIW, I do not think there's anything wrong with it.  Let gays have marriage, let them live their lives free from oppression.

3rd input?

Anal

If anal isn't allowed, then neither is oral. Or fingering, or hand jobs, or        , or midget tossing. None of it.

I'm pretty sure midget tossing is allowed. Only with the consent of the midget, of course

[SovereignDream]

Yeah.  It's definitely unnatural.  That's why no other species except humans display            tendencies.

Well, Ibexes scratch their ass with their horns...
does this mean we should grow horns and scratch our own asses with them?
Or better yet - scratch other people's asses with them?

Well, but imagine walking into a club, and being able to walk up to a cutie and say, "Hey, baby.  You know, it really is true what they say about guys with big horns.   "

 .......

[Sir GuitarCozmo]

I was taking the "fudging" up marriage thought and making an (apparently rather obtuse) anal joke out of it.

You wanted to make an anal joke out of marriage?



Are you gay?

[Adami]

I'd gladly ram my limousine into her hershey highway.

[SovereignDream]

I'd gladly ram my limousine into her hershey highway.

I will never understand how one can partake (and incomprehensibly - enjoy) anal. It is...disgusting...

[Adami]

I'd gladly ram my limousine into her hershey highway.

I will never understand how one can partake (and incomprehensibly - enjoy) anal. It is...disgusting...

I did it a few times when I was like 16 with my girlfriend at the time. It was great untill the very end. Everytime I finished, she'd get right up and go to the bathroom for about 10 minutes. Just left an odd taste on my penis.

[SovereignDream]

I'd gladly ram my limousine into her hershey highway.

I will never understand how one can partake (and incomprehensibly - enjoy) anal. It is...disgusting...

I did it a few times when I was like 16 with my girlfriend at the time. It was great untill the very end. Everytime I finished, she'd get right up and go to the bathroom for about 10 minutes. Just left an odd taste on my penis.

Thanks for letting me know.
(And I thought you were gay...?)

[MuumiPeikko]

Question I always want to ask to fighters against gay marriages:

Why do you care so much about it?
It they own life, they don't proposing you to marry them or sleep with them. So what's the problem? Just ignore it.

[Adami]

I'd gladly ram my limousine into her hershey highway.

I will never understand how one can partake (and incomprehensibly - enjoy) anal. It is...disgusting...

I did it a few times when I was like 16 with my girlfriend at the time. It was great untill the very end. Everytime I finished, she'd get right up and go to the bathroom for about 10 minutes. Just left an odd taste on my penis.

Thanks for letting me know.
(And I thought you were gay...?)

If I were gay, I'd be back on my home planet.

[bosk1]

Uranus?

[GuineaPig]

Yeah.  It's definitely unnatural.  That's why no other species except humans display            tendencies.

Well, Ibexes scratch their ass with their horns...
does this mean we should grow horns and scratch our own asses with them?
Or better yet - scratch other people's asses with them?

Did you actually remove the word "homosexual" from my post?  Wow.

And secondly, you say homosexuality is unnatural.  But it occurs widely throughout the natural world.  It is absolutely natural.  You cannot argue it any other way.

[Adami]

Uranus?

Or yours, it's a party either way.

[SovereignDream]

Yeah.  It's definitely unnatural.  That's why no other species except humans display            tendencies.

Well, Ibexes scratch their ass with their horns...
does this mean we should grow horns and scratch our own asses with them?
Or better yet - scratch other people's asses with them?

Did you actually remove the word "          " from my post?  Wow.

And secondly, you say               is unnatural.  But it occurs widely throughout the natural world.  It is absolutely natural.  You cannot argue it any other way.

I didn't remove it; this particular computer must have some sort of block on it. And I have never personally seen any animal bone another in the ass. EVER. And in a moral-religious context, it most certainly IS.

I have an idea: why don't we all turn gay? I don't think I need to tell you what would be the final result...

[Adami]

Oh my god, that computer bit was brilliant. Bravo!   

[GuineaPig]

This is amazing.

[Seventh Son]

I'd gladly ram my limousine into her hershey highway.

I will never understand how one can partake (and incomprehensibly - enjoy) anal. It is...disgusting...

I did it a few times when I was like 16 with my girlfriend at the time. It was great untill the very end. Everytime I finished, she'd get right up and go to the bathroom for about 10 minutes. Just left an odd taste on my penis.

Thanks for letting me know.
(And I thought you were gay...?)

You can be gay but still be into women.

[Seventh Son]

Yeah.  It's definitely unnatural.  That's why no other species except humans display            tendencies.

Well, Ibexes scratch their ass with their horns...
does this mean we should grow horns and scratch our own asses with them?
Or better yet - scratch other people's asses with them?

Did you actually remove the word "          " from my post?  Wow.

And secondly, you say               is unnatural.  But it occurs widely throughout the natural world.  It is absolutely natural.  You cannot argue it any other way.

I didn't remove it; this particular computer must have some sort of block on it. And I have never personally seen any animal bone another in the ass. EVER. And in a moral-religious context, it most certainly IS.

I have an idea: why don't we all turn gay? I don't think I need to tell you what would be the final result...

I've never seen anyone around where I live  that actually likes metal (Other than myself). So obviously, nobody likes metal.

[SovereignDream]

I'd gladly ram my limousine into her hershey highway.

I will never understand how one can partake (and incomprehensibly - enjoy) anal. It is...disgusting...

I did it a few times when I was like 16 with my girlfriend at the time. It was great untill the very end. Everytime I finished, she'd get right up and go to the bathroom for about 10 minutes. Just left an odd taste on my penis.

Thanks for letting me know.
(And I thought you were gay...?)

You can be gay but still be into women.

Yes..............it is called Bi................

[SovereignDream]

Oh my god, that computer bit was brilliant. Bravo!   

I...uh...*ahem* actually wasn't joking about that...

[Adami]

Oh my god, that computer bit was brilliant. Bravo!   

I...uh...*ahem* actually wasn't joking about that...

I know, I was tipping my hat to your computer.

[El Barto]

Just to clarify things, homosexuality in the animal kingdom is pretty commonplace.  Male giraffes are almost constantly buggering each other, just to name one example.

My problem, though, is that not one of these two people have bothered to explain why something is unnatural just because it doesn't serve a specific, biological purpose.  Pleasure is a perfectly acceptable goal, and procreation a damn fine thing to avoid for most people.  As I pointed earlier in the thread, not one Christian has ever called me heathenous scum for doing any number of enjoyable things--except fornication and attending rock concerts.

[soundgarden]

Yeah.  It's definitely unnatural.  That's why no other species except humans display            tendencies.

Well, Ibexes scratch their ass with their horns...
does this mean we should grow horns and scratch our own asses with them?
Or better yet - scratch other people's asses with them?

Did you actually remove the word "          " from my post?  Wow.

And secondly, you say               is unnatural.  But it occurs widely throughout the natural world.  It is absolutely natural.  You cannot argue it any other way.

I didn't remove it; this particular computer must have some sort of block on it. And I have never personally seen any animal bone another in the ass. EVER. And in a moral-religious context, it most certainly IS.

I have an idea: why don't we all turn gay? I don't think I need to tell you what would be the final result...

1) Because you didn't see animals in homosexual activity doesn't negate its existence (must I really make that argument?).
2) Your religion is yours.   You have NO right to force your beliefs onto the people or the entity which governs those people
3) Homosexuality is a natural, but rare occurrence in nature.  The female/male couples will always, always, outnumber the same sex couples because it is biologically wired.  Homosexuality is no different from red hair on Japanese women.  Its natural but rare.

Have your faith man, believe homosexuals are sinners, let your "loving" god tell you that some humans don't deserve to be in love, but don't dare think you deserve control over their lives or the government.

My problem, though, is that not one of these two people have bothered to explain why something is unnatural just because it doesn't serve a specific, biological purpose.  Pleasure is a perfectly acceptable goal, and procreation a damn fine thing to avoid for most people.

Furthermore, the reason why sex is pleasurable because through evolutionary history those with the ability to enjoy it were most likely to seek it, and thus more likely to reproduce.  Those biological areas grew as pleasure centers and it is completely acceptable that people seek pleasure through there (is it wrong for a male and female to have sex JUST for pleasure? then it shouldn't be for homosexuals).

As it always was, religion with its restricted knowledge of the universe assumed many things in creating their own "theory for everything."  Rare or unusual was commonly labeled as evil or bad.

[SovereignDream]

Yeah.  It's definitely unnatural.  That's why no other species except humans display            tendencies.

Well, Ibexes scratch their ass with their horns...
does this mean we should grow horns and scratch our own asses with them?
Or better yet - scratch other people's asses with them?

Did you actually remove the word "          " from my post?  Wow.

And secondly, you say               is unnatural.  But it occurs widely throughout the natural world.  It is absolutely natural.  You cannot argue it any other way.

I didn't remove it; this particular computer must have some sort of block on it. And I have never personally seen any animal bone another in the ass. EVER. And in a moral-religious context, it most certainly IS.

I have an idea: why don't we all turn gay? I don't think I need to tell you what would be the final result...

1) Because you didn't see animals in            activity doesn't negate its existence (must I really make that argument?).
2) Your religion is yours.   You have NO right to force your beliefs onto the people or the entity which governs those people
3)               is a natural, but rare occurrence in nature.  The female/male couples will always, always, outnumber the same sex couples because it is biologically wired.                is no different from red hair on Japanese women.  Its natural but rare.

Have your faith man, believe           s are sinners, let your "loving" god tell you that some humans don't deserve to be in love, but don't dare think you deserve control over their lives or the government.

Do me a favor and read what I write before you post replies!

I never "imposed" my religion on anybody; I was merely asked a question and responded with what MY VIEWS ARE.
And, let's agree to disagree on this statement: "being gay is natural".

Also: "Have your faith man, believe           s are sinners, let your "loving" god tell you that some humans don't deserve to be in love, but don't dare think you deserve control over their lives or the government." ...

You fool: 1) we are all technically sinners 2) I have no problem with gays being in love with one another. I simply have a problem with making the assertion that being gay is natural and right. This only leads to the degradation of moral views and culture in the world. Allow me to guess: you support abortion too, right?

[73109]

Soverign Dream...

*loud sigh*

I can't even put words into how I feel about this...I know I said I would stay out of it but...I lost IQ points...this is why I hate the fucking world.