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THE Judas Priest thread - v. new album and tour in 2024

Started by KevShmev, July 06, 2010, 09:43:23 PM

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MirrorMask

Quote from: jjrock88 on December 08, 2023, 09:47:16 AM
I remember on the Judas Priest remasters from years ago, a lot of the bonus songs didn't match up with the year of the album they were being released on.  Didn't seem to make much sense.

Yeah, on one hand it's great that we got to hear all those songs, on the other hand, it was a poor job. Some live songs taken basically from a single show if I remember correctly, and studio tracks distributed randomly all over the remasters. It was something thrown together.

jjrock88

Thunder Road was a great track, but it's from the late 80's and appeared on Point of Entry.

Stadler

Quote from: MirrorMask on December 08, 2023, 10:01:22 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 08, 2023, 09:47:16 AM
I remember on the Judas Priest remasters from years ago, a lot of the bonus songs didn't match up with the year of the album they were being released on.  Didn't seem to make much sense.

Yeah, on one hand it's great that we got to hear all those songs, on the other hand, it was a poor job. Some live songs taken basically from a single show if I remember correctly, and studio tracks distributed randomly all over the remasters. It was something thrown together.

Don't get me started; that whole thing pissed me off to no end.  And they made it worse: "Recorded somewhere around the globe on one of our many world tours." or some shit like that.  Meanwhile, every one and their brother knew it was either from Long Beach in '84, or the Kiel Auditorium in '86.   Fucking lazy if you ask me.   But Priest always struck me that way (as compared to Iron Maiden, for example).

wolfking

Quote from: Stadler on December 08, 2023, 06:19:05 AM
Quote from: MirrorMask on December 07, 2023, 03:13:07 PM
Tracklist:

01. Panic Attack
02. The Serpent and the King
03. Invincible Shield
04. Devil in Disguise
05. Gates of Hell
06. Crown of Horns
07. As God Is My Witness
08. Trial By Fire
09. Escape From Reality
10. Sons Of Thunder
11. Giants in the Sky

Deluxe edition bonus tracks:

12. Fight of Your Life
13. Vicious Circle
14. The Lodger

So, is that the same "Fight for Your Life" that was a bonus track on the "Hell Bent For Leather" remaster?   And given that, you're telling me that they don't already have a song called "Gates Of Hell" or "Trial By Fire"?!?!   :) :) :) :) :)

I initially thought that too but as Paul said, different title

wolfking

Quote from: jjrock88 on December 08, 2023, 10:12:12 AM
Thunder Road was a great track, but it's from the late 80's and appeared on Point of Entry.

Fire Burns Below was a good one too.  Although from the Turbo/RID era and was stuck on Stained Class.

jjrock88

Yeah Fire Burns Below was pretty good.  But those Priest remasters definitely aren't mandatory buys.  All Fired Up was ok too.

wolfking

I have them all as they were the only forms of the CDs available when I discovered Priest.

Pappy

Quote from: Stadler on December 08, 2023, 11:40:14 AM
Quote from: MirrorMask on December 08, 2023, 10:01:22 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 08, 2023, 09:47:16 AM
I remember on the Judas Priest remasters from years ago, a lot of the bonus songs didn't match up with the year of the album they were being released on.  Didn't seem to make much sense.

Yeah, on one hand it's great that we got to hear all those songs, on the other hand, it was a poor job. Some live songs taken basically from a single show if I remember correctly, and studio tracks distributed randomly all over the remasters. It was something thrown together.

Don't get me started; that whole thing pissed me off to no end.  And they made it worse: "Recorded somewhere around the globe on one of our many world tours." or some shit like that.  Meanwhile, every one and their brother knew it was either from Long Beach in '84, or the Kiel Auditorium in '86.   Fucking lazy if you ask me.   But Priest always struck me that way (as compared to Iron Maiden, for example).

I'm still mad about A Touch of Evil Live they released where half the songs come from Rising in the East.

wolfking

Quote from: Pappy on December 08, 2023, 02:46:11 PM
Quote from: Stadler on December 08, 2023, 11:40:14 AM
Quote from: MirrorMask on December 08, 2023, 10:01:22 AM
Quote from: jjrock88 on December 08, 2023, 09:47:16 AM
I remember on the Judas Priest remasters from years ago, a lot of the bonus songs didn't match up with the year of the album they were being released on.  Didn't seem to make much sense.

Yeah, on one hand it's great that we got to hear all those songs, on the other hand, it was a poor job. Some live songs taken basically from a single show if I remember correctly, and studio tracks distributed randomly all over the remasters. It was something thrown together.

Don't get me started; that whole thing pissed me off to no end.  And they made it worse: "Recorded somewhere around the globe on one of our many world tours." or some shit like that.  Meanwhile, every one and their brother knew it was either from Long Beach in '84, or the Kiel Auditorium in '86.   Fucking lazy if you ask me.   But Priest always struck me that way (as compared to Iron Maiden, for example).

I'm still mad about A Touch of Evil Live they released where half the songs come from Rising in the East.

Agree.  That was pretty poor form.

jjrock88

I'll just say that I don't believe I've ever bought a remaster, reissue, deluxe edition etc that was better than just having the original.  And I've bought many.

Grappler

Quote from: jjrock88 on December 08, 2023, 08:00:16 PM
I'll just say that I don't believe I've ever bought a remaster, reissue, deluxe edition etc that was better than just having the original.  And I've bought many.

I prefer a number of remasters/remixes to the original. 

jjrock88

I've bought countless remaster/reissue/deluxe cd's with demos.  I can't say I've ever been impressed with a demo compared to what was released.

Zydar

Speaking of the bonus tracks, two that stands out to me are 'Turn On Your Light' and 'Red, White And Blue'. Both are on the Defenders reissue, don't know if they're from that period though.

wolfking

Quote from: Zydar on December 09, 2023, 12:52:28 AM
Speaking of the bonus tracks, two that stands out to me are 'Turn On Your Light' and 'Red, White And Blue'. Both are on the Defenders reissue, don't know if they're from that period though.

Yes, Turn on Your Light is another wonderful highlight, lovely ballad.

I think most of the bonus tracks come from the Turbo sessions where they were looking at a double album?  I'll have to look that up though.

IMO, the best bonus track by far is Living Bad Dreams.  Actually from the Painkiller sessions.

MirrorMask


Grappler

Quote from: jjrock88 on December 08, 2023, 08:11:47 PM
I've bought countless remaster/reissue/deluxe cd's with demos.  I can't say I've ever been impressed with a demo compared to what was released.

Megadeth's New World Order is so much better as a demo (due to Nick Menza's drumming and the heavier production) than the official version on Thirteen.

But yeah, demo versions of songs rarely are better than final versions. 

gazinwales

Defenders Of the Faith has just turned 40, making me feel very old.
I bought it on cassette back in the day and wore it out through so many plays.

pg1067

The Defenders show in May 1984 was my second concert ever.

When I did a mediation with Rob Halford back in early 2013, I brought my tour program and had him sign it.  It was awesome, and he was the nicest guy.

jjrock88

Heavy Metal Parking Lot from the summer of 86 with Priest/Dokken is still classic 15 minutes.

TAC

Quote from: pg1067 on January 04, 2024, 01:42:05 PM
The Defenders show in May 1984 was my second concert ever.


I remember the tour. Great White opened here. I didn't go because I went to see Van Halen in March, which was my 3rd concert.



Quote from: jjrock88 on January 04, 2024, 02:39:40 PM
Heavy Metal Parking Lot from the summer of 86 with Priest/Dokken is still classic 15 minutes.


I saw that tour 5 days after HMPL was filmed. Such a great film.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: DTwwbwMP on October 10, 2024, 11:26:46 AMDISAPPOINTED.. I hoped for something more along the lines of ADTOE.

jjrock88


TAC

Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: DTwwbwMP on October 10, 2024, 11:26:46 AMDISAPPOINTED.. I hoped for something more along the lines of ADTOE.

jjrock88


wolfking

I say it all the time but I so wish I was born 10 years earlier.  I missed the whole time I should have been experiencing.  Tim is the GOAT of concert experiences, so good.

jjrock88

I believe he saw Dio/Twister Sister at some point........that's a Wolf megashow!

TAC

Quote from: jjrock88 on January 04, 2024, 03:17:25 PM
I believe he saw Dio/Twister Sister at some point........that's a Wolf megashow!

August 20, 1984.

I'm not much of a concert goer these days though, but when I was a kid...hell yes!!!
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: DTwwbwMP on October 10, 2024, 11:26:46 AMDISAPPOINTED.. I hoped for something more along the lines of ADTOE.

wolfking

Quote from: jjrock88 on January 04, 2024, 03:17:25 PM
I believe he saw Dio/Twister Sister at some point........that's a Wolf megashow!

Twisted Sister were one I never explored.  Snider just always kinda irritated me.

wolfking

Quote from: TAC on January 04, 2024, 03:23:46 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 04, 2024, 03:17:25 PM
I believe he saw Dio/Twister Sister at some point........that's a Wolf megashow!

August 20, 1984.

I'm not much of a concert goer these days though, but when I was a kid...hell yes!!!

I was almost 3 months old!  :metal

TAC

Quote from: wolfking on January 04, 2024, 03:34:56 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 04, 2024, 03:23:46 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 04, 2024, 03:17:25 PM
I believe he saw Dio/Twister Sister at some point........that's a Wolf megashow!

August 20, 1984.

I'm not much of a concert goer these days though, but when I was a kid...hell yes!!!

I was almost 3 months old!  :metal

I was a month away from turning 16.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: DTwwbwMP on October 10, 2024, 11:26:46 AMDISAPPOINTED.. I hoped for something more along the lines of ADTOE.

pg1067

Quote from: TAC on January 04, 2024, 03:23:46 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 04, 2024, 03:17:25 PM
I believe he saw Dio/Twister Sister at some point........that's a Wolf megashow!

August 20, 1984.

I'd have rather had Twisted Sister than Rough Cutt.  The LA show was the only show on the Last in Line tour to get Rough Cutt.  Dio had Whitesnake at the start of the tour, then Twisted Sister, then Queensryche for the summer dates in Europe, and then Dokken for most of the rest of the tour.  I'd have preferred any of them.

wolfking

There's this Ruff Cut band again, right I'm checking them out.

TAC

Quote from: pg1067 on January 04, 2024, 03:54:37 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 04, 2024, 03:23:46 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 04, 2024, 03:17:25 PM
I believe he saw Dio/Twister Sister at some point........that's a Wolf megashow!

August 20, 1984.

I'd have rather had Twisted Sister than Rough Cutt.  The LA show was the only show on the Last in Line tour to get Rough Cutt.  Dio had Whitesnake at the start of the tour, then Twisted Sister, then Queensryche for the summer dates in Europe, and then Dokken for most of the rest of the tour.  I'd have preferred any of them.

Twisted Sister was awesome.

I would've loved to have seen the John Sykes Whitesnake...with Cozy Powell I assume. I never saw Sykes live.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: DTwwbwMP on October 10, 2024, 11:26:46 AMDISAPPOINTED.. I hoped for something more along the lines of ADTOE.

wolfking

First two videos on Youtube are apparently covers.  Then I clicked on this;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1nRgq0lf6g

Shortino on vocals.  Eh, it's nothing special at all.  And the guitarists are shit, played solos that didn't even go with the song.

wolfking

Quote from: TAC on January 04, 2024, 04:23:59 PM
Quote from: pg1067 on January 04, 2024, 03:54:37 PM
Quote from: TAC on January 04, 2024, 03:23:46 PM
Quote from: jjrock88 on January 04, 2024, 03:17:25 PM
I believe he saw Dio/Twister Sister at some point........that's a Wolf megashow!

August 20, 1984.

I'd have rather had Twisted Sister than Rough Cutt.  The LA show was the only show on the Last in Line tour to get Rough Cutt.  Dio had Whitesnake at the start of the tour, then Twisted Sister, then Queensryche for the summer dates in Europe, and then Dokken for most of the rest of the tour.  I'd have preferred any of them.

Twisted Sister was awesome.

I would've loved to have seen the John Sykes Whitesnake...with Cozy Powell I assume. I never saw Sykes live.

Sykes is such a monster.  A shame he wasn't more prolific.

TAC

Quote from: wolfking on January 04, 2024, 04:24:43 PM
First two videos on Youtube are apparently covers.  Then I clicked on this;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1nRgq0lf6g

Shortino on vocals.  Eh, it's nothing special at all.  And the guitarists are shit, played solos that didn't even go with the song.

They completely sukk.
Quote from: wkiml on June 08, 2012, 09:06:35 AMwould have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Quote from: DTwwbwMP on October 10, 2024, 11:26:46 AMDISAPPOINTED.. I hoped for something more along the lines of ADTOE.