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Re: THE Judas Priest thread - new album and tour in 2018!!
« Reply #770 on: October 26, 2017, 06:47:11 PM »
  so this is just a big bonus that we are getting another one.

Right. Like UFO for me, I don't waste time critiquing their...um.. mediocre albums. It's all gravy at this point. The fact like a band like Saxon keeps putting out great release after great release is amazing.
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« Reply #771 on: October 26, 2017, 07:01:46 PM »
Exactly.  I'll take anything they release and be pleased.

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« Reply #772 on: October 27, 2017, 12:33:45 AM »
I thought Rob did an excellent job when I saw them two years ago.
Me too. I didn't like his performance in 2011 that much, but he blew us away the last time.  :metal

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« Reply #773 on: October 27, 2017, 01:09:27 AM »
I think halford sounds pretty damn good for his age. He pretty much knocked it out of the park when i saw them. And i really enjoyed the live CD they put out last year.

Last time I saw him he was quite good, from Okay-ish to brilliant at times. I was quite near the stage, he was walking towards my side during Beyond the Realms of Death, and he was basically in front of me when he pulled out the scream in "The wind kissed him goodbye... AND THEN HE DIEEEEEEED"  :metal

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« Reply #774 on: October 27, 2017, 01:09:35 PM »
Just got a text that Priest and Saxon have a pretty big tour scheduled for the Spring. Certainly wouldn't preclude a European tour with Maiden, though. However, it'll probably just be both bands playing the festival circuit.

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Mar. 13 - Wilkes Barre, PA - Mohegan Sun Arena at Casey Plaza
Mar. 15 - Youngstown, OH - Covelli Centre
Mar. 17 - Uniondale, NY - Nassau Coliseum
Mar. 18 - Washington, DC - The Anthem
Mar. 20 - Newark, NJ - Prudential Center
Mar. 22 - Uncasville, CT - Mohegan Sun Arena
Mar. 25 - Ottawa, ON - The Arena at TD Place
Mar. 27 - London, ON - Budweiser Gardens
Mar. 28 - Oshawa, ON - Tribute Communities Centre
Mar. 30 - Orillia, ON - Casino Rama
Mar. 31 - Detroit, MI - Detroit Masonic Temple
Apr. 03 - Milwaukee, WI - Riverside Theater
Apr. 05 - Green Bay, WI - Resch Center
Apr. 08 - Bloomington, IL - Grossinger Motors Arena
Apr. 10 - Casper, WY - Casper Events Center
Apr. 11 - Loveland, CO - Budweiser Events Center
Apr. 15 - Kent, WA - ShoWare Center
Apr. 17 - Portland, OR - Veterans Memorial Coliseum
Apr. 19 - San Francisco - The Warfield
Apr. 22 - Los Angeles, CA - Microsoft Theater
Apr. 24 - Phoenix, AZ - Comerica Theatre
Apr. 26 - Tulsa, OK - BOK Center
Apr. 28 - Dallas, TX - The Bomb Factory
Apr. 29 - Sugarland, TX - Smart Financial Centre
May 01 - San Antonio, TX - Freeman Coliseum

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Re: THE Judas Priest thread - new album and tour in 2018!!
« Reply #775 on: October 27, 2017, 01:32:34 PM »
Hah..speaking of Saxon! ;D

Yeah, their new album comes out right before that too. That's a great lineup.
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« Reply #777 on: January 06, 2018, 02:28:15 AM »
Just like Accept and Saxon, its what you would expect from Priest.  Basic cool heavy metal song.  Nothing new but still kicks ass.

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« Reply #778 on: January 06, 2018, 02:45:54 AM »
Pretty cool song.

Not sure about the album cover though.

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« Reply #779 on: January 06, 2018, 03:00:55 AM »
The song sounds similar to the ones on the previous album. It's heavy, features a pretty much signature Priest style, but isn't too memorable.

Wikipedia lists Bruce Dickinson as a guest singer on one song on the new album, but I can't find the source for that. Does anyone know where that story comes from?

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« Reply #780 on: January 06, 2018, 03:33:18 AM »
It’s ok. Something I would expect from Hammerfall tbh.

Sounds better than Redeemer. And I’d rather listen to Rob than watch him these days...

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« Reply #781 on: January 06, 2018, 04:06:12 AM »
Tracklist:

1. Firepower
2. Lightning Strike
3. Evil Never Dies
4. Never The Heroes
5. Necromancer
6. Children of the Sun
7. Guardians
8. Rising From Ruins
9. Flame Thrower
10. Spectre
11. Traitors Gate
12. No Surrender
13. Lone Wolf
14. Sea of Red


From titles alone, I'm interested in Evil Never Dies, Never the Heroes, Necromancer and Traitors Gate.
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« Reply #782 on: January 06, 2018, 04:26:04 AM »
Pretty cool song.

Not sure about the album cover though.


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« Reply #783 on: January 06, 2018, 05:09:31 AM »
Ah thanks.
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« Reply #784 on: January 06, 2018, 04:30:43 PM »
It’s ok. Something I would expect from Hammerfall tbh.
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I have a confession. I have paid ZERO attention to JP since Rob came back.

But I like the new song.
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« Reply #785 on: January 06, 2018, 04:41:43 PM »
  I have paid ZERO attention to JP since Rob came back.

I bought Angel of Retribution and still like about half of the songs from it, but I only gave a few songs from Nostradamus one courtesy listen each (blah to all of them), and I have never heard anything from that album they did 3-4 years ago.  The departure of Downing and the decline of Halford's voice sucked all of the fun away from being a fan.

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« Reply #786 on: January 06, 2018, 05:04:59 PM »
  I have paid ZERO attention to JP since Rob came back.

I bought Angel of Retribution and still like about half of the songs from it, but I only gave a few songs from Nostradamus one courtesy listen each (blah to all of them), 

Though I never bought them, I actually have the files to both albums on my iPod, though I don't think I've ever listened to them...
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« Reply #787 on: January 06, 2018, 07:37:57 PM »
I'm not a huge Judas Priest fanboy (I like a few of their songs, but I haven't really listened to a lot of their albums, mainly just Painkiller), but I'm digging this song. It's not breaking new ground or revolutionizing the genre or anything, but it's a decent song with a pretty cool (if straight-forward) riff. I might check out the album when it drops, if I remember. The album artwork looks really goofy tho, as expected.

Also, honestly, the video for this song made me realize just how goofy metal bands are. I always thought they were a little silly, but the constant tough-guy/hardcore imaging is something I cannot even take remotely seriously.

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« Reply #788 on: January 07, 2018, 03:31:36 AM »
I think the new song is really good and already sounding better than most of ROS.  Although, the main riff and verse is Priest, but every other part of the song sounds like it's from Halford's solo band, Halford IV specifically.

Looks like most of the leads will be handled by Richie just like ROS, going by this track.
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« Reply #789 on: January 07, 2018, 03:33:02 AM »
Also, honestly, the video for this song made me realize just how goofy metal bands are. I always thought they were a little silly, but the constant tough-guy/hardcore imaging is something I cannot even take remotely seriously.

There's no point to this video or any metal videos these days, so I take no notice.  Saying that, this has been Priest's image for decades now so it's who they are.  Sure it's silly on these old fellas these days, but I wouldn't have it any other way.
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« Reply #790 on: January 07, 2018, 03:35:07 AM »
Also, honestly, the video for this song made me realize just how goofy metal bands are. I always thought they were a little silly, but the constant tough-guy/hardcore imaging is something I cannot even take remotely seriously.

There's no point to this video or any metal videos these days, so I take no notice.  Saying that, this has been Priest's image for decades now so it's who they are.  Sure it's silly on these old fellas these days, but I wouldn't have it any other way.

Indeed. THEY created this image (Rob Halford specifically), and if there's a band allowed to take it still to the extreme, it's them.
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« Reply #791 on: January 07, 2018, 03:43:22 AM »
Also, honestly, the video for this song made me realize just how goofy metal bands are. I always thought they were a little silly, but the constant tough-guy/hardcore imaging is something I cannot even take remotely seriously.

There's no point to this video or any metal videos these days, so I take no notice.  Saying that, this has been Priest's image for decades now so it's who they are.  Sure it's silly on these old fellas these days, but I wouldn't have it any other way.

Indeed. THEY created this image (Rob Halford specifically), and if there's a band allowed to take it still to the extreme, it's them.

Actually, to be honest, I don't really see anything that silly with what they wear and their stage show these days.  i don't find it over the top, as we said, just staying true with who they are.
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« Reply #792 on: January 07, 2018, 03:55:00 AM »
I actually would love to have Rob's wardrobe  :lol

I think that among the roadies there must be one dedicated to that only. No way he changes all by himself, there must be someone backstage with the wardrobe ready and the setlist with indications of which outfit goes with which song, and being there ready to help Rob change at a moment's notice!

"What do you do?"
"I tour with a metal band"
"Oh, cool! and what do you specifically do?"
"I help the singer to change"  :lol
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« Reply #793 on: January 07, 2018, 08:51:34 AM »
Also, honestly, the video for this song made me realize just how goofy metal bands are. I always thought they were a little silly, but the constant tough-guy/hardcore imaging is something I cannot even take remotely seriously.

There's no point to this video or any metal videos these days, so I take no notice.  Saying that, this has been Priest's image for decades now so it's who they are.  Sure it's silly on these old fellas these days, but I wouldn't have it any other way.

Indeed. THEY created this image (Rob Halford specifically), and if there's a band allowed to take it still to the extreme, it's them.

Actually, to be honest, I don't really see anything that silly with what they wear and their stage show these days.  i don't find it over the top, as we said, just staying true with who they are.

Look, huge Priest fan, and have been since the early 80's.   I prefer the Holland years, and that period right before (the Binks years) and have seen them live.   While I understand the whole "they who did it first ought to reap the rewards" with respect to things like the RnRHoF, I always thought Priest were a little cartoon-y with the whole "metal god" thing.   I know, I know, coming from a Kiss fan; but the Kiss thing is SOOOOOO over the top that it defies comparison.  Back then, before Family Jewels, MTV, The Elder, and Kiss Koffins, Gene was scary.   He was terrifying.  He didn't speak (or rarely).   He comes on Mike Douglas and sits there with his legs open grunting... it was something else, man.   Priest, though... I don't know.  I love their music (the run from Point of Entry through Defenders is as good as any band in metal, bar none) but there was always a fake-ness to them that the real metal guys did a better job of hiding (Ozzy's another one; before The Osbournes, when he was the REAL Prince of Darkness, he was legendary).  I remember reading a guitar interview and Glenn offhandedly said "Oh, we play well below our abilities in Priest".  Wha?   You're metal guys. Intense.  Balls to the wall.  Hell bent for leather.  British fucking steel, and you're half-assing it?

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« Reply #794 on: January 07, 2018, 09:01:20 AM »
Maybe not half assing it, but more keeping it straightforward and easier, in tone with the style they're playing. I'm sure they skilled musicians enough to write an intricate prog metal song if they ever wanted to.
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« Reply #795 on: January 07, 2018, 09:08:49 AM »
Dunno, a lot of times Glenn will play more intricate stuff stuff on the album and then not be able to replicate it live. I figured they were already pushing themselves to their musical limits.
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« Reply #796 on: January 07, 2018, 10:13:14 AM »
Also, honestly, the video for this song made me realize just how goofy metal bands are. I always thought they were a little silly, but the constant tough-guy/hardcore imaging is something I cannot even take remotely seriously.

There's no point to this video or any metal videos these days, so I take no notice.  Saying that, this has been Priest's image for decades now so it's who they are.  Sure it's silly on these old fellas these days, but I wouldn't have it any other way.

A lot of younger bands are just as bad about this imo. Metalcore bands especially tend to be full of young'ns that try to be "tough" and "edgy" in videos. When I'm watching any type of metal music video, instead of thinking "wow these guys are so tough and hardcore" I end up thinking "wow these guys are dorks". You could almost play bingo with all the tough guy tropes that get overused. Leather? Check. Spikes? Check. Bad CGI fire? Check. Shaky camerawork and jumpy edits? Check. Red and black just everywhere? Check. Singer does "the orb"? Check. Making faces that look like they just ate a bunch of sour candy? Check.

You could give these guys in particular a little slack, I guess, since they're basically the Seinfeld of the metal band image. But 95% of the other metal bands should learn how to make decent videos.

I actually would love to have Rob's wardrobe  :lol

I think that among the roadies there must be one dedicated to that only. No way he changes all by himself, there must be someone backstage with the wardrobe ready and the setlist with indications of which outfit goes with which song, and being there ready to help Rob change at a moment's notice!

"What do you do?"
"I tour with a metal band"
"Oh, cool! and what do you specifically do?"
"I help the singer to change"  :lol

Actually, that probably is the case. I know it's fairly common in pop to have people to help the singer do a quick change in between numbers.

Peter Gabriel probably had like 112[citation needed].

I remember reading a guitar interview and Glenn offhandedly said "Oh, we play well below our abilities in Priest".  Wha?   You're metal guys. Intense.  Balls to the wall.  Hell bent for leather.  British fucking steel, and you're half-assing it?

I can see the reasoning behind that. I remember reading that people tore apart Yngwie Malmsteen for shoe-horning technique into every song and ending up sounding like a one-trick pony who only focused on playing fast scales/arpeggios. Keeping things more conservative makes it easier to recreate songs live, can make the more technical moments stand-out more and feel more "special", and makes your music somewhat more accessible. A simple riff can sometimes be just as intense as a technical riff, if not more-so.

Besides, and this is a side-point, I don't know if there's that much new ground to be broken in metal technical playing. You already have bands like Animals As Leaders, Meshuggah, Dream Theater, Symphony X, and Dragonforce pushing it near its limit. I'm usually wary about making comparisons between metal and classical music, but it's fairly mirror with what has already happened with classical piano. You have composers like Rachmaninoff, Bach, Mozart, Chopin, and Liszt and pieces like Bartok and Prokofiev's Piano Concertos pushing the musician's ability to its limit. The only things that have been able to move past these technical behemoths are things like Sorabji's Opus Clavicembalisticum which emphasize technique to the point of sacrificing any musicality. Basically at this point, how technical can you be without being a gimmick?

Also, it should be noted that Judas Priest's music (and metal in general) is already fairly difficult to play well. I don't see any reason to make it more technical than it is.

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« Reply #797 on: January 07, 2018, 01:55:33 PM »
Dunno, a lot of times Glenn will play more intricate stuff stuff on the album and then not be able to replicate it live. I figured they were already pushing themselves to their musical limits.

Perhaps he means other aspects of their music, but yeah, with his leads, he does some really tricky shit a lot of the time.  From a technical point of view he's a really underrated guitarist and some of his solos are mind blowing. 

I also think that Priest play quite close to their limits.  Maybe from a guitar rhythm point perhaps not, but not by much.
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« Reply #798 on: January 07, 2018, 06:01:43 PM »
Dunno, a lot of times Glenn will play more intricate stuff stuff on the album and then not be able to replicate it live. I figured they were already pushing themselves to their musical limits.

Perhaps he means other aspects of their music, but yeah, with his leads, he does some really tricky shit a lot of the time.  From a technical point of view he's a really underrated guitarist and some of his solos are mind blowing. 

I also think that Priest play quite close to their limits.  Maybe from a guitar rhythm point perhaps not, but not by much.

Well, I don't know.  My first band, first show, we played six songs and two were Living After Midnight and United.  Look, I'm not bagging on the music - KISS FAN FOR GOD'S SAKE - I'm just saying that there was always something... I don't know... calculated about Priest that I never got from Maiden or Sabbath or even early Kiss. 

Like when they did their remasters, and each album had two bonus tracks and the live ones were credited to being recorded "somewhere across the world on one of our many world tours" or some nonsense like that, when most of the live songs were from two or three well known and later released-in-full shows.   

I don't know; I don't have a lot invested in this argument, as I love them and still listen to albums like Point of Entry and Defenders of the Faith to this day (actually more than some other bands that I probably "like" better). 

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« Reply #799 on: January 07, 2018, 06:30:22 PM »
I think Priest often played to the strengths of their drummer. Les Binks and Simon Phillips had Jazz backgrounds and allowed the band to flex their musical muscles. When they brought in Dave Holland, it was a conscious effort to have a simpler less groovy/technical sound. When Scott Travis came in, they were able to do more complicated stuff again and, because he's so talented and versatile, they can pretty much do whatever at this point.
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« Reply #800 on: January 22, 2018, 07:12:04 AM »
Speaking of drummers: Dave Holland passed away last week. Found out randomly after seeing a post on FB. Sad ending to an horrible fall from grace given his stint in prison.
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« Reply #801 on: January 22, 2018, 07:22:28 AM »
Wow I didn't know he passed away.
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« Reply #802 on: January 22, 2018, 08:38:26 AM »
Speaking of drummers: Dave Holland passed away last week. Found out randomly after seeing a post on FB. Sad ending to an horrible fall from grace given his stint in prison.

WOW, I didn't hear that either.   Was he still in prison? Was it natural or as a consequence of his troubles (child molesters don't always have a smooth time in the joint). 

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« Reply #803 on: January 22, 2018, 08:47:55 AM »
I think he'd been out of the can for a while. He only did a few years, as I recall. I'm surprised his death didn't get any more coverage, though. Priest has un-personed him, so he'd get no recognition there, but he did some other stuff, as well. Certainly Trapeze with Glenn Hughes got him some attention.

In any case, he's looked pretty terrible for a while. He never struck me as a particularly healthy guy.
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« Reply #804 on: January 22, 2018, 01:34:25 PM »
Wow, I didn't know that either.

In any case, he's looked pretty terrible for a while. He never struck me as a particularly healthy guy.

Yeah the last pics I saw he looked pretty shit.  What a terrible fall from grace indeed.
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