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« Reply #105 on: December 08, 2018, 03:25:30 PM »
I'm still working on Clockwork Immortality so no opinions yet.

As for comparing them to Babymetal or just Babymetal in general... I can't.  They are a killer band with girls dancing around and as much as I love them it sucks ass that nobody cares about the band and only shows the girls, even when they're doing nothing.

Babymetal is a whole different J-Metal animal and can't really be compared to the real all-girl bands, if that's what we're doing.  Put them against *any* metal band, sure, they slay, but I can't put them with the all-girl ones at all.

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« Reply #106 on: December 08, 2018, 03:28:04 PM »
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« Reply #107 on: December 18, 2018, 12:21:00 AM »
Well, that's it, Re:NO is officially leaving:

Today is the 2018 tour final, Shibuya Tsutaya O-East performance, and it will be the last stage of Reno, who has been enrolled in 6 and a half years.

I think it's all about the complicated feeling, but I want to make it to the best stage.
Thank you very much for today.


This sucks.  She wasn't just a singer, she wrote a lot of lyrics and even a bunch of music.  She didn't have much power in her voice but she tremendous vocal character and she's a great frontman.

Dammit.

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« Reply #108 on: December 18, 2018, 01:34:27 AM »
Don't know where you get the idea no one cares about the Kami band. They are revered as legendary musicians and followed around the net.
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« Reply #109 on: December 18, 2018, 10:09:05 PM »
Don't know where you get the idea no one cares about the Kami band. They are revered as legendary musicians and followed around the net.

By "no one" I mean the people presenting Babymetal to the world (ie the editors) who focus on the girls for 99% of the time even when the band is killing it.

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« Reply #110 on: December 23, 2018, 09:55:39 PM »
A track from Re:NO's final live performance of "All of You":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npiByO2ZdfQ

Man, she looks devastated.

I really wish they'd say if she's retiring or out indefinitely and if she can get healthy soon the plan is to be back or if she's stepping aside permanently so the band can move forward and not have to always be thinking about if/when she's coming back.

Man, this sucks.

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« Reply #111 on: May 12, 2019, 09:43:23 AM »
Bumping this thread to say that I enjoyed the two albums that Aimer had released, last month.  Sun Dance and Penny Rain.  I enjoyed Sun Dance out of the two more, but Penny Rain had probably my favorite song from the bunch, Black Bird.  I don't know if this is the right thing to say, but I think these two albums are really different from each other.  Sun Dance had a more pop/rock vibe, more upbeat, more hopeful in tone (especially in Sun Dance and the two One songs).  Penny Rain incorporated more orchestral elements, a little more slower in some parts, and some of the songs sounded more sorrowful or dramatic (like in I Beg You which is one of the theme songs for Fate/stay night: Heaven's Feel which is a really dark series of anime films).  The best part is that it all works really well with her voice that the music wasn't really forcing her to sing stuff that doesn't feel like it belongs with that music.

In the end, two good-to-solid albums from Aimer makes me a happy listener and I have no issues saying Sun Dance is my favorite so far this year.

On another note, I'm looking at the credits of her albums prior to these on Wikipedia and it looks like there's a lot of credits to a lot of different people providing lyrics, music, and producers, similar to the album credits that one might see with pop stars here. If that's the case, how in the world is Aimer's so much more enjoyable for me than the western pop stars here? Japan's really ahead of the curve here.
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« Reply #112 on: May 13, 2019, 09:56:00 PM »
Bumping this thread to say that I enjoyed the two albums that Aimer had released, last month.  Sun Dance and Penny Rain.  I enjoyed Sun Dance out of the two more, but Penny Rain had probably my favorite song from the bunch, Black Bird.  I don't know if this is the right thing to say, but I think these two albums are really different from each other.  Sun Dance had a more pop/rock vibe, more upbeat, more hopeful in tone (especially in Sun Dance and the two One songs).  Penny Rain incorporated more orchestral elements, a little more slower in some parts, and some of the songs sounded more sorrowful or dramatic (like in I Beg You which is one of the theme songs for Fate/stay night: Heaven's Feel which is a really dark series of anime films).  The best part is that it all works really well with her voice that the music wasn't really forcing her to sing stuff that doesn't feel like it belongs with that music.

In the end, two good-to-solid albums from Aimer makes me a happy listener and I have no issues saying Sun Dance is my favorite so far this year.

I checked out Black Bird, really nice.  I'd love to get into her but so far the only track that's truly stuck with me so far is "Brave Shine".  I'll definitely check out Penny Rain based on your "orchestral elements" comment.

On another note, I'm looking at the credits of her albums prior to these on Wikipedia and it looks like there's a lot of credits to a lot of different people providing lyrics, music, and producers, similar to the album credits that one might see with pop stars here. If that's the case, how in the world is Aimer's so much more enjoyable for me than the western pop stars here? Japan's really ahead of the curve here.

They really are ahead of the curve... and it's not even close.  The difference with Aimer having all these other people writing the music is that it works cuz the music is so much more interesting and varied than what North America's pathetic "popular" music scene is these days.

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Lovebites - No new video since December.  Starting to get worried.
Aldious - No news about a replacement vocalist or if Re:No is getting better or if there's new music coming.  Officially worried.
Babymetal - I find myself not caring as much as I used to but the first two albums will always be killer.  There just seem to be too many changes going on and still nobody talks about the music at all, just the girls.
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« Reply #113 on: May 14, 2019, 04:39:57 AM »
Wouldn't worry too much about Lovebites. They just released their second full album in 1,5 years time and are releasing their first worldwide DVD concertrelease 'Daughters of Dawn' in june.

Babymetal just announced a month long US tour in sept/okt coinciding with their 3rd album release. They've had a rough year but their single release 'Elevator Girl' sounds pretty good, productionwise. Yes, their are a lot of changes but I think they'll work through it.

Bandmaid seem to be on top of their game at the moment releasing singles left and right (also under the Band-Maiko moniker) and touring along nicely.

Not familiar with Aimer. As for Aldious, who knows?
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« Reply #114 on: May 14, 2019, 11:43:15 PM »
Ok, I listened to Penny Rain, and it's really nice but I have to say I love the song: i-mage <in/AR>.  What's with these bands and the weird names and characters?  Even the artists use colons in their names (ie Re:NO).

Wouldn't worry too much about Lovebites. They just released their second full album in 1,5 years time and are releasing their first worldwide DVD concertrelease 'Daughters of Dawn' in june.

True.  I guess I just overlook the DVDs since they're so difficult and expensive to get in North America.

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« Reply #115 on: May 15, 2019, 11:06:04 PM »
Aldious finally made a Facebook post:


After this, at 25:40 am fm nack5, Al Diaz's regular program "Aldious no miss radio" is on air 💫

Members of the tour, and guest vo's saki or r! Please send a support message to n ➡️ https://www.fm795.com/pc/entry.php?entry_id=4567

Radiko on pc and smartphone https://radiko.jp/mobile/#!/live/NACK5 https://radiko.jp/mobile/#!/live/NACK5



Looks like a radio interview and having a guest vocalist "saki" for it but the translation is pretty messy so who knows for sure.

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« Reply #116 on: May 16, 2019, 02:02:15 PM »
More Aldious:
https://aldious.net/contents/244569?fbclid=IwAR08A9M2QPd98B0i0JWMkRXqcXz76jMTWDuB2H-w-OlpyL3w5_01qqzCjGI

Looks like Toki got pregnant/married or married/pregnant, either way her last show is June 9 but they'll have guest guitarist(s) to fill in just like on vocals.

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« Reply #117 on: July 04, 2019, 09:43:01 AM »
bump.

I just saw on a blog, a new Sheena Ringo album dropped on May 27th, 毒史 (Sandokushi) which may or not be the same thing with the title "triviṣa-itihāsa."

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« Reply #119 on: March 21, 2020, 10:30:47 PM »
Got nothing better to do than to bump this thread to say I've listened to the entire catalog of this band called ONE OK ROCK, this week.  They are all right.  I heard about them when their lead singer sang Linkin Park's Somewhere I Belong at the Chester Bennington tribute show in 2017.  I also found out that their lead singer also wrote some of the songs from Aimer's Daydream album (one of my favorite albums from her).  If you like Pop Punk and bands influenced by Linkin Park, this may be up in your alley.  Please be warned that their latest album sorta went the way Linkin Park went with their final album, going more poppy (and, to me, not the good kind of poppy unlike the pop stuff that I enjoy in JRock and JPop).

On another note, I've been enjoying the catalog of SawanoHiroyuki[nZK].  This man makes some good pretty darn good Jpop music and found some pretty great vocalists to match the songs.
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« Reply #120 on: March 27, 2020, 05:46:59 PM »
ALDIOUS - EVOKE 2010-2020

Not a greatest hits but a selection of their stuff with their new vocalist instead.  Her name is R!N, she's 50/50 Japanese/Filipino and speaks fluent English and she sounds amazing.  She has power and vibrato and although the only live footage we have is some crappy NAAM footage of them on a tiny stage but she sounds great live.  I just need to see her on a real stage to see how she goes but I'm super happy with what I've seen and heard so far.  Maybe their next real album will have a lot more English on it.

We Are & Dominator from NAMM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPxpZOAM4nU (redhead guitar is just filling in for Toki right now cuz she had a baby)
- There's a few more videos of this out there but I think this is the best sounding and looking.  The sound is actually great considering they're basically playing in the lobby under the escalators.  They just need to work on their hair-banging syncro.

I love Re:NO, no doubt about it, but her strength has always been as a frontman and not a singer so much.  She has almost no vibrato and negligible power and her style is weird... but her personality and showmanship is where she really brought the band to life.  Actually, they're all pretty fun to watch, but the frontman is the one who really has to drive the show.

I still hate Yoshi's lead sound.  Turning the tone knob all the way down makes it much more difficult to sound good cuz if you miss-strike or miss-finger the note just dies.  I guess she wants a Slash-type lead tone but it's just not there.  She'd be way better off, especially life, to just use the neck pickup if she wants a softer sound.


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« Reply #122 on: November 23, 2021, 12:37:03 AM »
In recent times, I've been listening to this band called Pay Money to My Pain.  Man, if I've discovered them about a decade ago, they would have been an instant favorite for me.  Just the kind of modern hard rock/alternative metal sound that I typically dig where their songs could be intense and sorrowful at times.  It really sucks that their lead singer passed away back in late 2012 just as they were hitting their stride.

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« Reply #123 on: November 23, 2021, 02:23:49 AM »
I have to spend a moment bigging up WAGAKKI BAND. Sure, they're not metal, but they do have a lot of metal aspects to their music, but their big appeal is the use of traditional Japanese instruments alongside the rock. Their music has gotten a little commercialised of late, but their live stuff looks fun (I would LOVE to see this band!)

I'd post some YouTube links only I'm stuck at work and YouTube is a blocked site, I'm sure you can work it out for yourselves...
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« Reply #124 on: April 26, 2022, 07:13:15 PM »
Bumping this, thanks for the link Anguyen...



BAND MAID finally clicked for me after seeing their live video of DOMINATION at the Line Cube...holy shit what a kick ass performance, burned through their last album and it fucking rocks beginning to end. Seriously debating buying tickets to their Oct show now even though it's sold out...post market are starting at about 150.


Also gotta give another push for Nemophila, featuring Saki from Mary's Blood, Mayu from Lipstick, Tamu Murata on drums, Hazuki (Lisa X) on guitar, and Haraguchi on bass. With one pre-pandemic show under their belt, they promoted themselves to the point where their first post pandemic show sold out in days, and they are already making a US appearance at Aftershock in Sacramento (YAY), and word of a US tour to be added.

Here's a few tracks...

Raitei... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lh-dVLKP314

Sorai... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYOLiDAlHBY

And Oiran live... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19VQ9tkWksQ

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« Reply #125 on: April 27, 2022, 01:43:13 PM »
Oh, another band that needs mentioning, Asterism. Three piece instrumental, with a true wonderkind on guitar, Hal CA. I think she's 16 in this video, bassist is 17,drummer 19. I have no fucking idea what they put in the water over there, but it's working....


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« Reply #126 on: May 04, 2022, 02:43:38 AM »
Oops, sorry, very late to the party, only came across here by chance just now  :(

Very long story very short, growing up in Asia back in the late 80's, J-Pop and J-Rock are what got me into music and later western music; and finally into the world of rock and metal.  :metal

I started off listening to J-Rock bands like The Alfee (they were great until the late 80's), then slowly moved onto X Japan, Luna Sea, Tomoyasu Hotei etc. For some strange reasons I started getting into J-Pop and Jazz Fusion stuff more over the past 10 years or so. Perfume, Fox Capture Plan, Weaver etc. are some of my favorites among them.
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« Reply #127 on: June 24, 2022, 06:37:26 PM »
7 days till I see Nemophila at the Whisky A Go Go... This show is going to be lit af.

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« Reply #128 on: June 29, 2022, 08:30:49 AM »
7 days till I see Nemophila at the Whisky A Go Go... This show is going to be lit af.

Pending the venue's wifi, Nemophila will be streaming the first few songs for free on YouTube. I'll try and post a link when they put it up.

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« Reply #129 on: July 01, 2022, 06:23:22 AM »
Here's the link... Goes live at 8 PST...


https://youtu.be/Yo1QKSlqJ24

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« Reply #130 on: July 02, 2022, 01:48:17 AM »
Goddamn what a fucking amazing show. Just relentless. And damn what a talented group of musicians across the board.

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« Reply #131 on: July 02, 2022, 02:04:56 AM »
The link still works, and I will check it out later today, thanks for sharing.
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« Reply #132 on: July 02, 2022, 06:39:50 AM »
Yup, I think the performance starts around the 12 minute mark

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« Reply #133 on: July 06, 2022, 05:41:22 PM »
I watched this whole show and I love the energy and the production and the talent is amazing.

However, I've tried several times but I just can't get into Nemophila.  I'm sure it's mostly the vocal style.  I don't mind screamo but only in small doses and not when it's so frequent.

I'm also triggered by the 7-string with 6 on top and only 1 underneath.

Hopefully we'll start seeing more frequent visits from Japan going forward.  It felt like things were about to really take off in North America and then covid hit.

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« Reply #134 on: July 06, 2022, 05:57:57 PM »
That's an odd trigger  :lol

I was just amazed by how polished they were for only having about 10 live shows under their belt, it's such a credit to their work ethic. They did like a 7 song sound check at the Whisky, with a rehearsal the day before. The girls just work so damn hard.

Both Nemophila and BAND-MAID are at Aftershock in October, with BAND-MAID doing a ten show tour of the country after that. I will definitely be at both Aftershock and at BAND-MAID's San Francisco show. I think Babymetal did the whole J-Metal world a huge favor by really opening the world up to the genre. I talked with so many people at the show who said Babymetal was their gateway drug into the genre.

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« Reply #135 on: July 09, 2022, 09:41:25 PM »
I agree about the girls and their passion.  All the bands, really.  It's so nice to see and, sadly, so rare to see in North America.

I'm hoping to see some of these girls nearby at some point but Canada sucks even more than the US for acts like this so I can only look for a tour date near Seattle at some point.

BabyMetal was also my gateway but I feel a little sour on them, though, since the band is A-MAZING but they never seem to get any credit nor exposure and I just can't watch a live show for more than a few songs cuz there's just only so much of closeups of the girls dancing I can take when there's insane musicianship happening at the same time.

Right now my favorites list would go:

1) Lovebites
2) Aldious (but they need to do something new soon, man)
3) Gacharic Spin
4) Band-Maid
5) BabyMetal

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« Reply #136 on: July 10, 2022, 09:44:00 AM »
Band Maid is in Seattle Oct 12...

Ranking time?

1- Nemophila
2- Gacharic Spin
3- Band-Maid
4- BabyMetal
5- still sifting through it all, but Mary's Blood, Telecide, and Doll$boxx definitely catch my attention. I appreciate what Lovebites do, I'm sure they'll eventually click for me.


I remember a while back I found a link to a jazz fusion project done by some of the guys from the Kami band, and it was literally the sickest shit ever. Wish I could come across it again. They're about as good as musicians get.

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« Reply #137 on: July 11, 2022, 03:02:21 PM »
Gacharic Spin are easily my favourite, so glad you introduced me to them RJ.

Lovebites and Nemophila are also great, in different ways.

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« Reply #138 on: July 11, 2022, 04:28:27 PM »
Gacharic Spin are easily my favourite, so glad you introduced me to them RJ.

Lovebites and Nemophila are also great, in different ways.

Yeah, Gacharic Spin are definitely the most unique band I've ever come across, absolutely impossible to categorize, and so damn talented across the board. I dearly hope they do a US show someday, they've only done one so far at an anime convention in Texas a while back. Not sure what'd get them to come out here, and their US appeal is probably a good deal less than others from what I've seen on the various fan groups, but damn they look so fun live.

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« Reply #139 on: July 28, 2022, 02:01:42 AM »
Has anyone heard of A Crowd of Rebellion...They're more on the metal side, but they're from Japan so I figured this would be the best place to mention them.

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