Overture 1928 question

[sneakyblueberry]

According to Wikipedia, this song makes use of the whole-tone scale.  Can anyone give a time stamp of this?

[Implode]

I'm listening right now. So far, at 1:02.

...and that's it.

[rubislaw]

Yep that's correct, although even that section isn't all whole tone, there are a few chromatic intervals too

[wolfking]

Whole tone is a fantastic scale when used wisely.

[TAC]

I've been listening to music for a long f##king time, but this thread is Greek to me.

[wolfking]

I've been listening to music for a long f##king time, but this thread is Greek to me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whole_tone_scale

A scale that is used mostly in jazz but when used in metal cleverly can sound outstanding.  Very dreamlike and spacey sounding.  A couple of examples that I can think of;

James LaBrie - Freaks - 4:02, amazing whole tone scale run from Marco
Strapping Young Lad - Wrong Side - 1:32, Dev proves he is a force to be reckoned with on the guitar.

[TAC]

Thanks Wolf!

[sneakyblueberry]

Whole tone scales sound like floating to me.  I've been trying to think of ways to incorporate them into some songs but they're quite tricky to use.  Cheers for those examples too, wolfking.

[wolfking]

Whole tone scales sound like floating to me.  I've been trying to think of ways to incorporate them into some songs but they're quite tricky to use.  Cheers for those examples too, wolfking.

Floating!  Excellent description.  It is a constant challenge to incorporate them.  Play with some different kinds of backing tracks and try and throw a quick whole tone scale in and see what happens, have a mess around.  You can probably find some proper lessons, as I'm not too clever with the whole theory side of it.  Check this out, a little jam by Marco Sfogli over a Larry Carlton style backing.  based in Cminor, but if you notice at 1:01, he throws in a quick run down of the whole tone scale.  I think the chord under that whole tone run could be a Gmin or Gmin7 so he is using the G whole tone scale. (I think)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f27P6_DB1vw