From 1-5 Rate Systematic Chaos

[Darkes7]

There's no 4.5, so I went with 5.

The most daring album in DT discography, plenty of experiments, no weak points, three songs in the "amazing" tier (Repentance, The Ministry of Lost Souls, Constant Motion - each for different reasons in a different group). Ages very well and I hope maybe that day will come some day (10 years or so?) when hating it will no longer be cool and fashionable.

[Rafael Guerra]

I said 3, but a 3.5 would describe it better to me. It has some very enjoyable moments, however it is much weaker than some other DT albums like Six Degree and SFAM. In respect to those glorious albums, I would not give a 4 to SC, however there is nothing that I dislike on it.

[orcus116]

Picked mediocre. While it's my least favorite there is still 15-20 minutes of material I don't mind listening to.

[skydivingninja]

1

[Marvellous G]

ITPOE Part 1 has probably the best instrumental section they've done since Metropolis Part 1, seriously, the intro to that song is PERFECT progressive metal. Other than that I don't really love any of the other tracks, but TMOLS is half-great, Repentance has good/great bits and some of ITPOE part 2 is very good. 3 overall for me, but would be a 2 without the first four minutes of the album.

[King Postwhore]

I picked good because it's average to me.  When I don't play it for a while is seems better to me.  I seem to play other DT cd's more.

[Dark Master Of Sin]

4, it's a great album!

[pogoowner]

Mediocre at best.

[Slain]

I voted 3. It's one of my least favorite out of DT's albums, but that doesn't mean I dislike it.

[Samsara]

20 people (as of this post) think the album is mediocre to terrible, whereas only 14 consider it excellent or really good.

So the haters outweigh the fanboys.   

[Darkes7]

It's kinda what I would expect, and it's not that bad.

[ariich]

It's kinda what I would expect, and it's not that bad.

Yeah, most people have voted "good" which is nice to see.

[LCArenas]

ITPOE1: 3/5
Forsaken: 4/5
Constant Motion: 4/5
TDEN: 2/5
Prophets of War: 3/5
Repentence: 2/5
TMOLS: 4/5
ITPOE2: 5/5

I'd put it a 3.4/5 if it was on decimal scale, so I put a 3 on it... That's a good score, but not that good for DT, a band whose albums I usually rate from 4 to ∞.

[Marvellous G]

ITPOE1: 3/5

Does not compute.

[hefdaddy42]

There's no 4.5, so I went with 5.

The most daring album in DT discography, plenty of experiments, no weak points, three songs in the "amazing" tier (Repentance, The Ministry of Lost Souls, Constant Motion - each for different reasons in a different group). Ages very well and I hope maybe that day will come some day (10 years or so?) when hating it will no longer be cool and fashionable.

That day has already come.

[yeshaberto]

went with good...prob rates in the middle of all for me

[contest_sanity]

Voted "good."  If not for the lyrics on TDEN and ITPOE pt. 2, I would probably have a higher opinion.  No real problems with the album musically. 

[Quadrochosis]

1

[emindead]

ITPOE1: 3/5
ITPOE2: 5/5

You rated ITPOE pt 1 lower than pt2??

[Darkes7]

I've always considered part two better as well. The advantage has decreased over time, but it's still there.

[Quadrochosis]

I've always considered part two better as well. The advantage has decreased over time, but it's still there.

This.

[antigoon]

I've always considered part two better as well. The advantage has decreased over time, but it's still there.

This.

Yeah, but "The Reckoning."

[emindead]

To me, part 2 loses all the momentum part 1 built. Part 1 is just gorgeous, flowing perfectly from part to part. Part 2 starts great, I'll give you that, but when my ears beg for more power (after the great "ANGELS FALL ALL FOR YOU HERETIC" and "DEMON HEART BLEED FOR US!") the song delivers me a demotivated "Dark master within I will fight for you". Totally a buzz killer. The vocal melody and the instruments should have keep rising up instead of halting the momentum.

Edit: (I'm listening to the song and) Oh my God if the solo section doesn't flow at all. There's too much copy/paste riffs from previous parts of the song where they sound really out of place, and these riffs are solely for Petrucci and Rudess can solo for the sake of it.

Part 2 is unorganized.

[KevShmev]

I said this in another thread recently, but ITPOE Part I is great on its own.  Had they released that as just one song and never did Part II, it would have still been great.  The lyrics are ambiguous enough in Part I to where it could be interpreted in several ways, unlike Part II, which seems to beat you over the head with unimaginative and just plain bad lyrics, IMO. 

I actually like the majority of the instrumental section in Part II, though.  The beginning part has Rudess doing that bouncing keyboard thing which reminds me of the end of ELP's "Karn Evil 9," and Petrucci's solo when the tempo suddenly changes is very nice.  Too bad most of the rest of the song is either unmemorable or ruined by lyrics about dark masters. 

[PlaysLikeMyung]

I chose 4.

I was spinning this in my car a few days ago, and I can't get over how much better it was than I thought. My least favorite track is still definitely Forsaken, but this isn't a BAD album by any stretch

[Quadrochosis]

Now that voting has rounded out a bit, it seems that more people fall under "Good" than above. Which is what I was anticipating.

Basically majority of DTF thinks the album is terrible-good (max) with 18 people disagreeing.

[AwakeFromOctavarium]

DT has never made a bad album, I tell you. The negativity surrounding this album is obviously because of the fact that it's relatively a bad album. But compared to albums from other artists, this is actually decent.

[Quadrochosis]

DT has never made a bad album, I tell you. The negativity surrounding this album is obviously because of the fact that it's relatively a bad album. But compared to albums from other artists, this is actually decent.

Agreed, but that's not what the OP said. It said in relation to other DT albums.

Compared to other DT, this album is utter shit.

Placed in the spectrum of all music, it probably is somewhere in the higher end.

It's all about relativity.

[AwakeFromOctavarium]

DT has never made a bad album, I tell you. The negativity surrounding this album is obviously because of the fact that it's relatively a bad album. But compared to albums from other artists, this is actually decent.

Agreed, but that's not what the OP said. It said in relation to other DT albums.

Compared to other DT, this album is utter shit.

Placed in the spectrum of all music, it probably is somewhere in the higher end.

It's all about relativity.

Oh, I didn't read the OP carefully. I should have given it 2, instead of 3. I wouldn't call it shit, though.

[Quadrochosis]

DT has never made a bad album, I tell you. The negativity surrounding this album is obviously because of the fact that it's relatively a bad album. But compared to albums from other artists, this is actually decent.

Agreed, but that's not what the OP said. It said in relation to other DT albums.

Compared to other DT, this album is utter shit.

Placed in the spectrum of all music, it probably is somewhere in the higher end.

It's all about relativity.

Oh, I didn't read the OP carefully. I should have given it 2, instead of 3. I wouldn't call it shit, though.

Yea that might have been a little hard, but in reality, when I'm comparing it to everything they did pre-Six Degrees it really is just horrible.

[BRGM]

When I'm comparin it too pre SFAM it's pretty ALOT! better

[Adami]

When I'm comparin it too pre SFAM it's pretty ALOT! better

Huh?

The only thing I can read in that is "Systematic Chaos is better than anything they did before SFAM". That can't possibly be what you said.

[AcidLameLTE]

When I'm comparin it too pre SFAM it's pretty ALOT! better

...SeRoX?

[AwakeFromOctavarium]

When I'm comparin it too pre SFAM it's pretty ALOT! better

Holy shit.

Go post this in Controversial Music thread.

[ariich]

Quad, your "analysis" of the results shows politician levels of spin and bias. See my earlier response to Samsara to see show the same results can be said to "show" two very different trends.

All the results show are that out of the 5 options, more people consider the album "good" or mid-range than anything else.