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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1190 on: August 06, 2016, 01:06:20 AM »
I think Theories of Flight blows the doors off The Astonishing. 

For me there is just no comparing the two albums IMO, TOF leaves TA for dead in every single aspect.

No issue with anyone picking TOF over TA. It's a great album. To me, FW has had a lot of ups and downs, but TOF is next level great. So I'll give it that. But you guys are selling TA way too short.

From my own personal perspective, I have TOF neck and neck with ADTOE.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1191 on: August 06, 2016, 11:36:52 AM »
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1192 on: August 08, 2016, 08:56:54 AM »
Anybody know why both "Something From Nothing" and "Still Remains" are missing from Disconnected on Spotify? Bloody streaming services. It's on Apple Music.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1193 on: August 08, 2016, 09:09:24 AM »
that's pathetic.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1194 on: August 08, 2016, 10:23:51 AM »
Anybody know why both "Something From Nothing" and "Still Remains" are missing from Disconnected on Spotify? Bloody streaming services. It's on Apple Music.
Hm...they aren't on Google Play Music Unlimited either. (except for the versions in my cloud, that is)

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1195 on: August 15, 2016, 11:27:24 AM »
The Light and Shade of Things gets stuck in my head often.   :hefdaddy
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1196 on: August 18, 2016, 05:37:13 PM »
Theories of Flight is my first purchase of Fates Warning and I love it.  I listened to samples of their material after learning that Ray Alder was the singer, but did not really give it a fair shot. I normally like the heavier material from most bands.  Is there another cd of FW that is on the heavy side?

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1197 on: August 18, 2016, 05:41:35 PM »
Disconnected, FWX, Darkness in a Different light are their heaviest other than the latest one.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1198 on: August 18, 2016, 08:07:08 PM »
FWX isn't in TOF's league, but if you like TOF, Disconnected should be next.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1199 on: August 19, 2016, 03:16:40 AM »
Disconnected, FWX, Darkness in a Different light are their heaviest other than the latest one.

There are some fairly heavy moments on The Spectre Within and No Exit. More in the mode of thrash at the times that the albums were released ect. ect...
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1200 on: August 19, 2016, 07:21:33 PM »
FWX isn't in TOF's league, but if you like TOF, Disconnected should be next.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1201 on: August 19, 2016, 07:47:54 PM »
Get No Exit.....right away.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1202 on: August 23, 2016, 08:09:10 AM »
Yeah, No Exit is a definite must.  :2metal:
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1203 on: August 24, 2016, 06:07:14 AM »
Get No Exit.....right away.
Yeah, No Exit is a definite must.  :2metal:

Yup, one of the more underrated Fates albums imo. :metal
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« Reply #1204 on: August 24, 2016, 08:10:28 AM »
Get No Exit.....right away.
Yeah, No Exit is a definite must.  :2metal:

Yup, one of the more underrated Fates albums imo. :metal

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1205 on: August 24, 2016, 02:51:00 PM »
It should be noted that, while No Exit may be good, it is not even remotely similar to Theories of Flight. So I don't know if it's necessarily the album I would recommend next.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1206 on: August 24, 2016, 06:26:19 PM »
It should be noted that, while No Exit may be good, it is not even remotely similar to Theories of Flight. So I don't know if it's necessarily the album I would recommend next.

This is definitely true. No Exit is more musically akin to the John Arch era of Fates Warning, I think. However until Theories of Flight and DiaDL came out, I'd argue it was definitely the heaviest Fates album out there and is a great, underrated entry from the band.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1207 on: August 24, 2016, 06:32:03 PM »
Right, but the original question poised was where to go to next and what would be closest to TOF, and Disconnected is it.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1208 on: August 25, 2016, 06:14:36 AM »
Right, but the original question poised was where to go to next and what would be closest to TOF, and Disconnected is it.

Probably Disconnected.  It's a different beast to TOF though, much less in your face, more spacious, more ambiance and prog IMO.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1209 on: August 25, 2016, 10:08:23 AM »
I love the sounds and ambiance in Disconnected.  A few years ago, I was looking through the liner notes and realized that Steve Tushar provided "additional keyboards, sequencing and noise" to Disconnected.  Tushar worked w/ Kevin Moore on Chroma Key's You Go Now, which was also released in 2000.  So, for those who like CK, there's a link in the ambiance contributions from YGN and Disconnected.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1210 on: August 25, 2016, 10:21:50 AM »
Hansi from Blind Guardian has often cited Fates Warning as an influence, particularly early Fates Warning. I'm looking to get into them, what albums should I listen to?

The only Fates Warning I've heard was some of Darkness In A Different Light. What is the general opinion of it from fans?

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1211 on: August 25, 2016, 02:47:49 PM »
DIADL is very well received at the time and while it's still a great record today, it is vastly outshined by the latest one. In every way from production, to songwriting. That said, it's still a great album worth listening to. If you like it, check Theories of Flight next as it's a somewhat similar in direction but improved in every single way and it has a lot more ambience to it even without a keyboard player and has a superior pacing as well.

If you're looking into more metal-oriented FW sound, look at albums like No Exit, pretty much anything pre-Parallels.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1212 on: August 25, 2016, 02:53:54 PM »
Awaken the Guardian is frequently mentioned as being a classic prog-metal album that was very influential to the genre.  The music on Awaken is definitely 'out there' and can be tough to digest.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1213 on: August 25, 2016, 03:47:17 PM »
I think the production doesn't help it either. It's hard to follow the guitar lines. Of course with ZERO vocal melody, it's even more difficult to follow. But I think if one can find a way to dig into it, it's an amazing album.
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« Reply #1214 on: August 25, 2016, 09:12:47 PM »
Yeah Awaken the Guardian is quite dense. The vocals twist and turn all over the place. You'd think a song's melody is heading one way and then without warning it cuts back in a completely different direction. The guitar riffs too! 

But I think you can draw a straight line from bands like Zero Hour, Cynic and Spiral Architect right back to this album.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Theories of Flight
« Reply #1215 on: August 26, 2016, 01:49:44 AM »
Perfect Symmetry  is a pretty good transitional record.
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« Reply #1216 on: August 26, 2016, 02:15:58 AM »
Perfect Symmetry  is a pretty good transitional record.
Yep. Actually, I'm surprised by lack of mentions of that album here. 
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« Reply #1217 on: August 26, 2016, 03:33:20 AM »
Perfect Symmetry  is a pretty good transitional record.
Yep. Actually, I'm surprised by lack of mentions of that album here.

In my opinion, it's their most progressive album and I really like most of the songs. It does suffer from horrible guitar tone. I'm not sure what they were thinking when they decided to go with that sound in the studio. Through Different Eyes was probably their first "radio friendly" song/single. Chasing Time and Nothing Left to Say are top-notch FW!!!
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« Reply #1218 on: August 26, 2016, 03:42:34 AM »
In my opinion, it's their most progressive album and I really like most of the songs. It does suffer from horrible guitar tone. I'm not sure what they were thinking when they decided to go with that sound in the studio. Through Different Eyes was probably their first "radio friendly" song/single. Chasing Time and Nothing Left to Say are top-notch FW!!!
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« Reply #1219 on: August 26, 2016, 09:35:00 AM »
Perfect Symmetry  is a pretty good transitional record.
Yep. Actually, I'm surprised by lack of mentions of that album here.

I love Perfect Symmetry.  Had actually mentioned it in the 'Albums you appreciate but nobody else does' thread.   Both No Exit and Perfect Symmetry can be considered transitional albums, as you can hear the evolution of the band from one era to the other.  Those 2 albums are like watching an artist at work, or a painter at the canvas trying to hash out what the finished product should be.
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« Reply #1220 on: August 26, 2016, 10:07:48 AM »
Perfect Symmetry  is a pretty good transitional record.
Yep. Actually, I'm surprised by lack of mentions of that album here.

I love Perfect Symmetry.  Had actually mentioned it in the 'Albums you appreciate but nobody else does' thread.   Both No Exit and Perfect Symmetry can be considered transitional albums, as you can hear the evolution of the band from one era to the other.  Those 2 albums are like watching an artist at work, or a painter at the canvas trying to hash out what the finished product should be.
I love Perfect Symmetry as well. It's one of their best very best albums, in my opinion.

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« Reply #1221 on: August 28, 2016, 05:35:57 AM »
Lots of love for Perfect Symmetry here also.  I always thought it was a highly regarded album from Fates among fans, and obviously such an important part of the bands transistion in style and sound.
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« Reply #1222 on: August 28, 2016, 12:00:12 PM »
Perfect Symmetry is top tier for me as well

As far as Theories of Flight goes, this is just a beast of an album.  Gets better and better all the time, and I can't see it not being my album of the year.  Just fantastic.

I think my new favorite song is now "The Light and Shade of Things"

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« Reply #1223 on: August 28, 2016, 12:10:13 PM »
I became a FW fan after Ray Alder joined.  Not a John Arch fan at all, but the music from that era is still good.  Since my fandom started in the late 80's, APSOG is still my favorite FW album hands down.
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« Reply #1224 on: August 28, 2016, 01:52:40 PM »
Perfect Symmetry is top tier for me as well

As far as Theories of Flight goes, this is just a beast of an album.  Gets better and better all the time, and I can't see it not being my album of the year.  Just fantastic.

I think my new favorite song is now "The Light and Shade of Things"

Same. I'm stoked for Alter Bridge's new album, but I'm skeptical that they have any shot of topping Theories of Flight this year.

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