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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #280 on: August 18, 2013, 06:27:30 PM »
May be time for a new ranking?  I haven't tried this in awhile...

1. Disconnected
2. A Pleasant Shade of Gray
3. Perfect Symmetry
4. Awaken the Guardian
5. No Exit
6. The Spectre Within
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #281 on: August 18, 2013, 06:38:44 PM »
May be time for a new ranking? 

Indeed.

1. A pleasant shade of grey
2. Disconnected
3. Perfect Symmetry
4. Inside Out
5. Parallels
6. No Exit
7. FWX
8. Awaken the guardian
9. The spectre within
10. Night on Brocken

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-Depending on mood, FWX will fluctuate in the rankings
-I may have listened to Night on Brocken maybe once all the way through. Despite loving Spectre within and Awaken the guardian, Night on broken never did it for me.

- and in general, this is one of the hardest bands to rank albums for, since I honestly love almost everything they have ever released.

P.S.  Jim Matheos is my favorite guitarist and lyricist and John Arch is my favorite singer of all time. Needless to say, I'm very ass burgers about FW
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #282 on: August 18, 2013, 07:03:48 PM »
Arch is your favorite singer yet the albums he's on are your least favorite? Does not compute.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #283 on: August 18, 2013, 07:41:15 PM »
Arch is your favorite singer yet the albums he's on are your least favorite? Does not compute.

Because I can't list Arch/Matheos on a FW ranking  ;D

But in all seriousness, the Arch albums have a very dated sound and I really need to be in the right mood to really enjoy them. And as much as I love Arch, he is just 1/5 of the equation. Another example is JLB, I love his voice, but you don't see me putting Winter Rose up there with I&W. The combined sound of all contributing members is what dictates the ranking. 

Arch/Matheos on the other hand sounds fresh and contemporary, and If I could include in the list, it would be number 2 behind APSOG.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #284 on: August 18, 2013, 07:51:58 PM »
Arch is your favorite singer yet the albums he's on are your least favorite? Does not compute.

Because I can't list Arch/Matheos on a FW ranking  ;D

But in all seriousness, the Arch albums have a very dated sound and I really need to be in the right mood to really enjoy them. And as much as I love Arch, he is just 1/5 of the equation. Another example is JLB, I love his voice, but you don't see me putting Winter Rose up there with I&W. The combined sound of all contributing members is what dictates the ranking. 

Arch/Matheos on the other hand sounds fresh and contemporary, and If I could include in the list, it would be number 2 behind APSOG.

I've got no problem with the early FW works. In fact Arch/Matheos is what prompted me to check out the first three discs. 

Do love that A/M disc though, amazing. Hope they do more.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #285 on: August 19, 2013, 08:59:02 AM »
I'm surprised to see how low Parallels is.  It's my favorite and in my all time top 5, and I know someone who claims it is his favorite album of all time.  It was my first FW album, but for me it just hits that magical ground of being proggy and catchy.  But trying to parse albums 2-8 is an exercise in futility because they're all close.
     

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #287 on: August 20, 2013, 09:46:34 AM »
Just found this thread...  sorry i'm so late in the discussion.

Anyone planning on seeing them in Dallas? 

Also, has anything been posted (i.e., teasers, full tracks, etc.)?
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #288 on: August 20, 2013, 09:48:23 AM »
I'm surprised to see how low Parallels is.  It's my favorite and in my all time top 5, and I know someone who claims it is his favorite album of all time.  It was my first FW album, but for me it just hits that magical ground of being proggy and catchy.  But trying to parse albums 2-8 is an exercise in futility because they're all close.

Eh, I think Parallels is a bit overrated. It's not bad by any means, but I think FW have put out at least four or five albums that I'd personally rank higher than it.

here is the song "Firefly"....

https://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/fates-warning-exclusive-premiere-firefly/

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #289 on: August 20, 2013, 09:49:57 AM »

Also, has anything been posted (i.e., teasers, full tracks, etc.)?

Review that Nick wrote and I edited (I pretty much agree with him on this album)

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #290 on: August 20, 2013, 09:51:13 AM »
here is the song "Firefly"....

https://www.classicrockmagazine.com/news/fates-warning-exclusive-premiere-firefly/

Listening right now.  Loving it.  Ah, what a feeling of calm and serenity that overcomes me as i hear alder's voice with matheos' guitar.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #291 on: August 20, 2013, 09:56:07 AM »

Also, has anything been posted (i.e., teasers, full tracks, etc.)?

Review that Nick wrote and I edited (I pretty much agree with him on this album)

Here is my review of the album, looking forward to this tour even more now!

https://www.wpapu.com/rev073.html

Nice review.  Thank you!  I can't wait.  Mid-September will be a great time between this and the DT album!
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #292 on: August 20, 2013, 10:07:52 AM »
Im halfway through Firefly. Great track, what a chorus!

 I havent seen many people mention it, but this is FWs first album with Bobby Jarzombek on drums. From the tracks that came out already Id say hes done a great job, keeping the essence of what Mark Zonder used to do while adding his contribution as well.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #293 on: August 20, 2013, 10:27:54 AM »
Very happy with both Firefly and Into the Black  :tup

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #294 on: August 20, 2013, 11:03:03 AM »
This song is really really solid. I hear elements of past FW songs in it. I hear some "Another Perfect Day" in the bridge, and I hear some "So" in the heavy guitar during the verses. I hear some "Island in the Stream" in Ray's melody. And I hear some Arch/Matheos in the instrumental section. It has a little of everything for the hardcore FW fans!
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #295 on: August 20, 2013, 11:09:57 AM »
Yes! This is Fates Warning after nine years. The voice, the guitars.

And here is my current list (which has changed during the years):

1. A Pleasant Shade of Gray
2. Perfect Symmetry
3. Disconnected
4. Parallels
5. Inside Out ("Monument" is a favourite though)
6. No Exit
7. FWX
8. Awaken the Guardian
9. The Spectre Within
10. Night on Brocken
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« Reply #296 on: August 20, 2013, 11:56:45 AM »
Listening to this song after the band's nine-year hiatus is like seeing an old friend after a decade apart.  It feels so wonderful to listen to it.  I almost feel choked up.  That voice, the guitars.  Oh, man. 
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #297 on: August 20, 2013, 01:44:36 PM »
Ya...I can see the comparison to Another Perfect Day.   But IMO, this is far better.   I didn't care for APD at all.    I hear some of the similar vibes, but this is a vast improvement.   :tup
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #298 on: August 20, 2013, 02:20:43 PM »
Not as good as Into The Black but I still liked it quite a bit.

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« Reply #299 on: August 20, 2013, 08:38:21 PM »
Another Perfect Day was one of my favorites off of FWX.  :lol

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« Reply #300 on: August 21, 2013, 05:05:37 AM »
Another Perfect Day was one of my favorites off of FWX.  :lol

Same.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #301 on: August 21, 2013, 05:20:02 AM »
Another Perfect Day was one of my favorites off of FWX.  :lol

Same.

Mine too.

Where as most of the other songs on FWX like to take their time with build-ups(which I don't really mind), it was nice to have a song that just came right out of the gate swinging. Another perfect day is just a solid, kickass rock song, and my favorite on the album. Followed by a handful of doubt. 

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« Reply #302 on: August 21, 2013, 05:30:45 AM »
Left Here was a highlight for me too.

Just listened to Firefly and it's solid.  I also prefer Into the Black, but this is nice.

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« Reply #303 on: August 21, 2013, 08:20:22 AM »
I'm just jazzed to hear something new from Ray.  I've become a HUGE fan of his, between FW, Redemption and Engine.  I can't get enough.  And he's a Texas boy, to boot!
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #304 on: August 21, 2013, 09:13:17 AM »
My attempt at the lyrics...

Fates Warning - "Firefly"

There in the silence of the night I see you shine
Drifting down to me, drift down to me
This is how it's supposed to be

Will you stay?
Will you go?
Again, this time how far?

Then you take
And you're gone
No longer need you (?) here anymore

Fly, far away
I won't regret at all not asking you to stay
And I can't make you understand
As I close my empty hand

And as I stand here watching stars go shooting by
A thought comes to me, it comes to me
This is how it's supposed to be

Fly, far away
I won't regret at all not asking you to stay
And I can't make you understand
As I close my empty hand

And as night turns to day
Alone now I walk away
And as time changes
Your light fades into the day

Will you stay?
Will you go?
Again this time how far?
Then you take
And you're gone
Now longer need you (?) here anymore

Fly, far away
I won't regret at all not asking you to stay
And I can't make you understand
As I close these empty hands
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #305 on: August 21, 2013, 12:52:04 PM »
Another Perfect Day was one of my favorites off of FWX.  :lol

Same here.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #306 on: August 22, 2013, 02:56:59 PM »
Ya...I can see the comparison to Another Perfect Day.   But IMO, this is far better.   I didn't care for APD at all.    I hear some of the similar vibes, but this is a vast improvement.   :tup
I totally agree.  I couldn't stand Another Perfect Day.  That sound reminded me of a bad Enchant song (and I like Enchant but they have some stinkers).

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« Reply #307 on: August 22, 2013, 04:33:10 PM »
Seems like Another Perfect Day gets a lot of hate for some reason. I love the song myself.

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« Reply #308 on: August 22, 2013, 08:15:40 PM »
APD was probably the most standout track on FWX for me on first listen. Funny how everyone hears it different.

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« Reply #309 on: August 22, 2013, 08:33:48 PM »
I guess I've always thought that FW had extremely weak "singles"...   I've been a fan of this band from almost the very beginning, and it's always seemed to me like the greatest stuff was when they were writing for *themselves*.    I don't think there's been any FW "singles" that I didn't think were the weak links on their respective albums.

Granted, their first real single was "Silent Cries" which was pretty good.

But then "Through Different Eyes" is easily the weakest link from PS. 

Eye To Eye and Don't Follow Me are my least favorites from Parallels (POV, which was also a single was better)

Monument is an exception...probably the highlight of IO

Was there a single for APSOG?

And then One is OK, but definitely my least favorite from DC....which leads us back to APD, which was another attempt at something like TDE or E2E.    I just don't like it when Jim intentionally tries to write something "radio friendly"....   POV was probably his best attempt at that formula....maybe Monument. 

That being said, I like the new stuff a lot better, and I have very high hopes for this album.
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« Reply #310 on: August 22, 2013, 11:12:53 PM »

But then "Through Different Eyes" is easily the weakest link from PS. 




Ouch!!! That's one of my favorites from that album. I always thought A World Apart was the weakest song on that album, but I still like it a lot.
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« Reply #311 on: August 22, 2013, 11:48:14 PM »

But then "Through Different Eyes" is easily the weakest link from PS. 




Ouch!!! That's one of my favorites from that album. I always thought A World Apart was the weakest song on that album, but I still like it a lot.

I guess I've just *always* been turned off my attempts by artists to "create a single"....to my ears, it always comes across as sounding a bit unnatural in comparison to the rest of their work.    I *LOVE* A World Apart.   That and Static Acts (both contributions by X) have always been highlights for me.  I loved X's material so much to that point, that I remember being immediately disappointed when Parallels didn't contain any contributions from him.
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« Reply #312 on: August 23, 2013, 05:18:45 AM »
Through Different Eyes is one of my fav FW tracks.

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« Reply #313 on: August 23, 2013, 06:29:52 AM »
Through Different Eyes is one of my fav FW tracks.

Me too. I love Through Different Eyes.  :heart
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« Reply #314 on: August 23, 2013, 06:31:41 AM »
It's just a perfect blend of prog and aor.  Plus, it is obviously the blueprint for Parallels and Inside Out.