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« Reply #175 on: August 02, 2013, 05:50:51 AM »
In exploring FW, I tried Pleasant Shade way back when it was first released, and was underwhelmed.  At the time, Alder's voice wasn't floating my boat.  I gotta revisit them, because I've gone to Parallels on DTF recommendations, and 'twas very nice.  Thinking I'll be following for this.

A PLeasant Shade of Grey is not a great place to start knowing them...it´s a concept album that goes on and on, and does not seem to get anywhere when it ends. If I was to show FW to a friend of mine who´s never heard them, I´d start with PArallels or PErfect Symmetry.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #176 on: August 02, 2013, 05:52:09 AM »
Probably the reason I was underwhelmed.  Ok, gonna try PS, as I've listened Parallels (and liked it plenty).
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #177 on: August 02, 2013, 05:54:28 AM »
Good news about the new album. Hopefully this one is more along the lines of Arch/Matheos than FWX.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #178 on: August 02, 2013, 08:09:25 AM »
APSOG may not be the best album to judge on just a few listens. After hearing Parallels I got APSOG and was very disappointed on the first few listens, but after I heard the live album the songs really clicked with me. Also, that live setlist/performance is probably one of the best live albums ever recorded. Flawless.

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« Reply #179 on: August 02, 2013, 08:45:07 AM »
APSOG may not be the best album to judge on just a few listens. After hearing Parallels I got APSOG and was very disappointed on the first few listens, but after I heard the live album the songs really clicked with me. Also, that live setlist/performance is probably one of the best live albums ever recorded. Flawless.

 I've never heard the live album...where can I buy it? It still has Mark on drums, right?

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #180 on: August 02, 2013, 09:50:12 AM »
APSOG may not be the best album to judge on just a few listens. After hearing Parallels I got APSOG and was very disappointed on the first few listens, but after I heard the live album the songs really clicked with me. Also, that live setlist/performance is probably one of the best live albums ever recorded. Flawless.

 I've never heard the live album...where can I buy it? It still has Mark on drums, right?

It is called Still Life and yes, it has Mark on drums.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #181 on: August 02, 2013, 10:28:01 AM »
I love that album art.

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Closer to the date I may decide to go to the NJ show as well.
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« Reply #182 on: August 02, 2013, 10:29:33 AM »
Oh, and I will remind everyone, when you post about a new release in a thread, PLEASE also post about it in the release date thread! Help keep it current!
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #183 on: August 02, 2013, 11:15:47 AM »
I still haven't listened to all of APSoG. I usually tune out around track 4 or 5. Nothing that's going on on that album is interesting enough to warrant being one long, continuous song. I really like all the other Alder albums. Especially FWX, so I hope this one keeps up like that.
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« Reply #184 on: August 02, 2013, 11:25:15 AM »
Let´s not forget the excellent Inside Out, which has probably my favourite song form their whole output, "Face the Fear".

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #185 on: August 02, 2013, 11:33:38 AM »
Let´s not forget the excellent Inside Out, which has probably my favourite song form their whole output, "Face the Fear".
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« Reply #186 on: August 02, 2013, 11:35:15 AM »
I still haven't listened to all of APSoG. I usually tune out around track 4 or 5. Nothing that's going on on that album is interesting enough to warrant being one long, continuous song. I really like all the other Alder albums. Especially FWX, so I hope this one keeps up like that.

I haven't listened to all their albums, but so far APSOG is by far my fave. It won't disappoint in full. And why, you missed all the best parts, like VI and XII! :o
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #187 on: August 02, 2013, 11:35:30 AM »
You guys are making me want to buy more CDs.. stop that.


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« Reply #188 on: August 02, 2013, 11:39:52 AM »
You guys are making me want to buy more CDs.. stop that.

 Buy the Winery Dogs CD as well, and help them keep their spot in Billboard´s Top 30!  :metal :metal

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« Reply #189 on: August 02, 2013, 11:40:32 AM »
You guys are making me want to buy more CDs.. stop that.

 Buy the Winery Dogs CD as well, and help them keep their spot in Billboard´s Top 30!  :metal :metal

Got that on release day.

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« Reply #190 on: August 02, 2013, 11:49:10 AM »
Yeah, no doubt. GOGOGOG!

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« Reply #191 on: August 02, 2013, 11:52:26 AM »
You guys are making me want to buy more CDs.. stop that.

 Buy the Winery Dogs CD as well, and help them keep their spot in Billboard´s Top 30!  :metal :metal

Got that on release day.

I've got in my amazon cart:

Still Life
Parallels
Inside Out

DO IT?

NOW!!!   :metal :metal :metal :metal :metal

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« Reply #192 on: August 02, 2013, 11:58:06 AM »
Dunno if this was shown here on the forum when it happened, but htis is the show I went to, when MP played drums for FW - São PAulo, last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnhtKqKm_TY&feature=player_embedded

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #193 on: August 02, 2013, 12:55:21 PM »
You guys are making me want to buy more CDs.. stop that.

 Buy the Winery Dogs CD as well, and help them keep their spot in Billboard´s Top 30!  :metal :metal

Yeah, I'll give you 10:1 odds on any wager that isn't going to happen. They'll be lucky to stay in the top 75 in week 2. Just the nature of how it usually works.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #194 on: August 03, 2013, 12:29:58 AM »
Dunno if this was shown here on the forum when it happened, but htis is the show I went to, when MP played drums for FW - São PAulo, last year:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnhtKqKm_TY&feature=player_embedded

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« Reply #195 on: August 03, 2013, 04:06:35 AM »
Definiteley anticipating this one!!!!
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« Reply #196 on: August 04, 2013, 10:44:43 AM »
Do you think we can modify the thread title to reflect the new album and release date?

I just bought my VIP ticket for a meet and greet at the NYC show in Nov.  Only $50!  What a bargain!
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« Reply #197 on: August 04, 2013, 12:18:56 PM »
Do you think we can modify the thread title to reflect the new album and release date?

I just bought my VIP ticket for a meet and greet at the NYC show in Nov.  Only $50!  What a bargain!

Are they only doing that for NYC?  The opening date in Joliet doesn't have anything about VIP tickets :/

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« Reply #198 on: August 04, 2013, 12:49:39 PM »
Whoever sees Matheos please do bug him about getting OSI on tour. But like really subtly and politely/

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« Reply #199 on: August 04, 2013, 02:09:00 PM »
Whoever sees Matheos please do bug him about getting OSI on tour. But like really subtly and politely/

I've seen him be asked about this more than once.   I really get the feeling that it's all KM that has the issue with touring, and that JM would do it in a heartbeat if KM greenlighted it.   But I really don't think he likes touring.   
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« Reply #200 on: August 04, 2013, 02:39:24 PM »
Whoever sees Matheos please do bug him about getting OSI on tour. But like really subtly and politely/

I've seen him be asked about this more than once.   I really get the feeling that it's all KM that has the issue with touring, and that JM would do it in a heartbeat if KM greenlighted it.   But I really don't think he likes touring.   

I don't agree thats the issue.  If it were to happen, it would be very production intensive which isn't feasible for a band of that stature.

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« Reply #201 on: August 04, 2013, 05:15:01 PM »
My friend and I asked Jim about the osi tour after the arch/matheos show in connecticut. He said the issue was that osi music is very production oriented and requires a lot of work to assemble in a live format. I believe kevin has said in recent interviews that he wants to play live. If he reallly means that, i wish he would just do it already!  At this point, im just happy to see fates live again. Such a great band.
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« Reply #202 on: August 04, 2013, 05:58:58 PM »
My friend and I asked Jim about the osi tour after the arch/matheos show in connecticut. He said the issue was that osi music is very production oriented and requires a lot of work to assemble in a live format. I believe kevin has said in recent interviews that he wants to play live. If he reallly means that, i wish he would just do it already!  At this point, im just happy to see fates live again. Such a great band.

You guys make a good point...but come on.  How many live shows *in any form* has Kevin done since he left DT?

One or two FW shows, and *one* Chroma Key show at a club in Turkey?  In almost 20 years?    Forgive me if I have an eyebrow based on his track record.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #203 on: August 05, 2013, 09:23:19 AM »
Listening to my AutoRip of Inside out.

What's this track Outside Looking in? Sounds like the god damned backstreet boys.


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« Reply #204 on: August 05, 2013, 02:54:01 PM »
What's this track Outside Looking in? Sounds like the god damned backstreet boys.

wut?
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« Reply #205 on: August 05, 2013, 02:55:06 PM »
What's this track Outside Looking in? Sounds like the god damned backstreet boys.

wut?

Listened to the first track on "Inside out" (was recommended in this thread).. sounds like the damn backstreet boys got back together.

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« Reply #206 on: August 05, 2013, 05:06:27 PM »
Yeah, you've suffered some ear infection I believe. InsideOut is Parallels 2. Continuation of the sound, just as amazing.
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« Reply #207 on: August 05, 2013, 05:23:02 PM »
Yeah, you've suffered some ear infection I believe. InsideOut is Parallels 2. Continuation of the sound, just as amazing.
The title song is brilliant.  2:43 - eargasm.

Maybe it's the Amazon Autorip. My CD will be here tomorrow.   There is no "title song" by way.

Too much damn harmonizing with the chorus.


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« Reply #208 on: August 05, 2013, 05:25:59 PM »
Yeah, I meant Outside Looking In. I've always accepted this as the "title" song.

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« Reply #209 on: August 05, 2013, 07:09:39 PM »
What's this track Outside Looking in? Sounds like the god damned backstreet boys.

wut?

Listened to the first track on "Inside out" (was recommended in this thread).. sounds like the damn backstreet boys got back together.

This simply makes no sense at all.
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