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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #350 on: September 12, 2013, 10:10:23 AM »
Honestly, I think it might come down to money. All those short tours through Europe probably sold well enough to make it worth it for him. And the one offs in CT and ProgPower wouldn't have been as huge an inconvenience. This tour asks for a good chunk of time off with very little monetary return. I can easily just see it not being worth it for him.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #351 on: September 12, 2013, 10:13:18 AM »
I am excited about Frank being back to Fates too so I hope everything is OK with the band and this is just for this tour. I was hoping to see Frank and Jim live again but I will attend Fates show in Athens no matter what.
Beside Firefly I have not listened more than a couple of times the other two songs, I am waiting for the release of the full album to "feel" the entire Fates experience.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #352 on: September 12, 2013, 10:18:20 AM »
I believe Frank currently lives in NY, so hopefully he can at least perform at the NY/NJ/CT shows.  They're are all within 1-3 hours away.  Those happen to be the ones I'm attending, so that would be a nice treat.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #353 on: September 13, 2013, 02:28:28 AM »
https://www.michaelabdow.com/

I've never heard of this guy, but after watching a couple of the videos on his site he seems to be a very capable player.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #354 on: September 15, 2013, 06:11:53 AM »
https://www.michaelabdow.com/

I've never heard of this guy, but after watching a couple of the videos on his site he seems to be a very capable player.

Yeah, dude has the chops to play the FW material live. However I do agree with the concern someone else mentioned as far as covering for the chemistry that Jim has with Frank. Those two are probably my personal favorite dual guitar team in a band ever. :metal

BTW, a review for the album popped up on Sputnik!
https://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/58919/Fates-Warning-Darkness-In-A-Different-Light/
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #355 on: September 25, 2013, 08:01:28 AM »
So just out of curiosity I checked out the VIP package details



 


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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #356 on: September 25, 2013, 09:32:47 AM »
I think that's just for cases of emergency, or when someone gets sick and replaced on tour or whatever.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #357 on: September 25, 2013, 09:52:15 AM »
For those interested, there was some issues regarding the NYC VIP meet-and-greet that were ironed out on the FW forum.  The NYC meet-and-greet includes admission to the show for the $50 price.  The venue's website was very unclear, so I called this week and they modified the website to make it more clear that it includes admission.  The other meet-and-greets don't include admission.  Apparently, the NYC venue is doing their own meet-and-greet with the band and it's separate from the packages being offer by FW.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #358 on: September 25, 2013, 10:34:48 AM »
I think that's just for cases of emergency, or when someone gets sick and replaced on tour or whatever.

That...and also to legally cover their asses if you got to meet Jim and Ray and Joey....but you wanted to talk to Bobby.    They can't guarantee EVERYONE will be there...but in my experience, Jim has always been very cordial and gracious to fans...so I'd be willing to bet that he will be front and center for every meet and greet (barring some emergency, as Mora said)
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #359 on: September 25, 2013, 11:20:23 AM »
I'm tempted to spring for a second meet-and-greet, in Amityville.  $50 is such a reasonable price, and FW never tours.  Plus, I'm not sure if the NYC meet-and-greet will be different, or lesser in quality, in some way since it's being coordinated through the venue and not the band itself.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #360 on: September 26, 2013, 10:21:46 AM »
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #361 on: September 26, 2013, 12:06:03 PM »
Sounds amazing. I love the O Chloroform sample.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #362 on: September 26, 2013, 10:13:55 PM »
I just had the pleasure of listening to "O Chloroform."  What an absolute trip.  I never had such a fun time listening to song for the first time.  I've never heard anyone but Kevin sing his lyrics before.  Kevin's lyrics are often riddle-like and nonsensical delivered in a deadpan voice or sarcastic tone.  But Ray's voice is so different.  He sings with such emotion and seriousness.  So we have an emotional and serious voice delivering riddle-like and nonsensical lyrics.  It's such a contradiction that it's actually fascinating to hear and makes the song stand out.  I freaking loved it!!!
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #363 on: September 26, 2013, 10:41:17 PM »
I've managed to resist hearing much of anything this long, I can last a few more days. Is it the 30th yet? I hope my copy isn't delayed/lost in the mail.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #364 on: September 27, 2013, 01:31:45 PM »
Just noticed this interview with Ray posted online by The Classic Metal Show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEVCg7TvaW4
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #365 on: September 27, 2013, 02:51:49 PM »
Going to be very hard for anyone to top this as album of the year. Maybe DT. Maybe Tesseract. Maybe Byzantine.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #366 on: September 28, 2013, 06:42:38 PM »
Just got my copy of the special edition and shirt. Gonna listen later, possibly after the Little People show tonight.  I haven't heard any sample yet.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #367 on: September 30, 2013, 01:52:57 PM »
Any impressions?  Still waiting for my copy from Amazon to ship.  They are slow as dirt

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #368 on: September 30, 2013, 02:23:09 PM »
The album is fucking sick! The only downside is that it is very heavy guitar driven and while I absolutely love the album I wish it could have been double cd so we can get some of the more atmospheric vibes from Disconnected and FWX.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #369 on: September 30, 2013, 02:57:19 PM »
Just downloaded it from Amazon.com about to spin it for the first time on the way home from work right now  :metal


I'll listen in the gym tomorrow morning as well.  That will get me through the entire thing at least twice.


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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #370 on: October 01, 2013, 08:04:04 AM »
I'm loving it! Probably more than the new DT (and I absolutely loved DT12).

The production is great too!
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #371 on: October 01, 2013, 09:26:44 AM »
So far, sounds amazing!  But like DT, i need to listen a few times all the way through to really formulate a cohesive opinion.

On the flip side, i do have December 5th marked on my calendar for when FW hits DALLAS!!!  Anyone else planning on attending here?   It's at a small club, but it's an all-ages show, so i can bring my 15 year old son.  Only fitting that DT was his first metal show (only second concert after Paul McCartney), and FW should be his second!
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #372 on: October 01, 2013, 09:31:53 AM »
So far, sounds amazing!  But like DT, i need to listen a few times all the way through to really formulate a cohesive opinion.

On the flip side, i do have December 5th marked on my calendar for when FW hits DALLAS!!!  Anyone else planning on attending here?   It's at a small club, but it's an all-ages show, so i can bring my 15 year old son.  Only fitting that DT was his first metal show (only second concert after Paul McCartney), and FW should be his second!

I'll be there. Driving from Austin. I've been to Trees several times. Evregrey, Epica, Katatonia, Amob....decent venue, not so good sound though. But after I read what happened to King's X in San Antonio, I won't be going to that show.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #373 on: October 01, 2013, 09:39:27 AM »
Dammit, had a payment snafu with Amazon and my pre-order was delayed. Saying it will be here on Friday...  :angry:

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #374 on: October 01, 2013, 11:58:58 AM »
Really good record. After the more recent Fates albums and OSI, I was starting to worry that Matheos had hit the snooze button. But Arch/Matheos and this confirm that he's still go an edge.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #375 on: October 01, 2013, 12:05:50 PM »
And Yet It Moves and Firefly are instant favorites.  :tup

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #376 on: October 01, 2013, 02:16:44 PM »
Yeah, I need a few more spins to decide what I think.  Generally, I like it.  But there are already a couple of tracks that I know I'm going to skip whenever I listen to it.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #377 on: October 02, 2013, 01:25:18 AM »
But after I read what happened to King's X in San Antonio, I won't be going to that show.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #378 on: October 02, 2013, 03:29:39 AM »
I dig the new album, but I'm surprised at how much love there is for Firefly. I find that and Desire to be easily the weakest songs on the album. The opening track is kickass, but on my first listen, after track 3 I was worrying that the album was just not going to interest me. Fortunately it got much better again after that!

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #379 on: October 02, 2013, 05:35:06 AM »
But there are already a couple of tracks that I know I'm going to skip whenever I listen to it.

Agreed

I find that and Desire to be easily the weakest songs on the album.

And Agreed

Desire is really pretty bad. Lighthouse just meanders and Kneel and obey is just ok.

But that being said I do love 1000 fires, Into the Black and Yet it moves. The other songs never really go above being just good. For me, the album is just so so. Which is kinda disappointing considering how strong Arch/matheos was.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #380 on: October 02, 2013, 07:42:49 AM »
But after I read what happened to King's X in San Antonio, I won't be going to that show.

Care to elaborate?

No kidding.  I hadn't heard any feedback from that show.  What happened?
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #381 on: October 02, 2013, 08:05:34 AM »
I need to give this another listen, because at the moment nothing's sticking with me. It's certainly not in the league of the Arch/Matheos album, not in the least. It feels like all the fire went into the A/M album, because this, despite being guitar driven, just kind of lays there.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #382 on: October 02, 2013, 08:42:11 AM »
I need to give this another listen, because at the moment nothing's sticking with me. It's certainly not in the league of the Arch/Matheos album, not in the least. It feels like all the fire went into the A/M album, because this, despite being guitar driven, just kind of lays there.

I do agree with this.  I'm liking parts of the album, but it still hasn't grabbed me.  Maybe it's because I prefer FW's atmospheric sound in APSOG and Disconnected, as opposed to the dryer sound of Parallels and Inside Out.  Don't get me wrong.  There are songs I'm loving (Firefly, I am, Into the Black), but I'm not head over heels just yet like so many people seem to be.  I'm giving it more time though, because I know FW albums always take me multiple listens.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #383 on: October 02, 2013, 08:54:27 AM »
I've heard the album two times. The first time I was slightly disappointed, 2nd time through i had much more fun.

What do you think about the voice of Ray ?
The last time I've heard Ray was on FWX and I was initially shocked to hear he lost a lot of his voice. I still like hearing him sing, but the last 9 years did no good to his voice. On the other hand his voice fits the raw sound of DIADL.
In my world Arch/Matheos was a Fates Warning album, too, and had a glossier sound.
While all of my metal buddies said something like: "Great music, unbearable voice.", about A/M, I still prefer John Arch to Ray Alder.

I love Lighthouse. Such a dark fatmosphere. I hope at one point Jim Matheos releases an solo album, that doesn't rock more than Lighthouse. Something like a sonic ghost story. 

So I might not like DIADL as much as A/M, I think I like it more than FWX and the last two OSI albums.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #384 on: October 02, 2013, 09:32:45 AM »
Amazon delayed my order til the 9th.

Super pissed...but can't really cancel it either because it was an Amazon gift card my mother in law gave me. 

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