Author Topic: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around  (Read 307716 times)

0 Members and 4 Guests are viewing this topic.

Offline Mebert78

  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 2485
  • Gender: Male
An unofficial online community for fans of keyboardist Kevin Moore (ex-Dream Theater, Chroma Key, OSI):


Offline RodrigoAltaf

  • Posts: 2687
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2626 on: September 29, 2022, 11:21:14 AM »
Thanks!

 I should tell you this: I usually upload the audio or video of the interviews I do, but Jim only agreed to talk if we promised to transcribe it. I hope it was worth the extra work!

Offline Awaken

  • Posts: 366
  • Gender: Male
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2627 on: September 29, 2022, 11:29:22 AM »
Great read, nicely done!  FWIW - I enjoy reading interviews so much more than listening to them.  Not sure I know why, maybe 'back in my day' that was the only option available

Offline RodrigoAltaf

  • Posts: 2687
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2628 on: September 29, 2022, 11:33:31 AM »
Great read, nicely done!  FWIW - I enjoy reading interviews so much more than listening to them.  Not sure I know why, maybe 'back in my day' that was the only option available

I prefer reading them too, but man...transcribing 20 minutes of an interview takes me FOREVER, even with A.I. giving me a headstart and transcribing most of it.

Offline goo-goo

  • Posts: 3162
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2629 on: September 29, 2022, 11:48:52 AM »
Thanks!

 I should tell you this: I usually upload the audio or video of the interviews I do, but Jim only agreed to talk if we promised to transcribe it. I hope it was worth the extra work!

LOL. I actually prefer to READ interviews. Love that Jim asked you to transcribe it LOL>

Offline WilliamMunny

  • Generation Mixtape
  • Posts: 1359
  • Gender: Male
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2630 on: September 29, 2022, 11:59:03 AM »
Thanks!

 I should tell you this: I usually upload the audio or video of the interviews I do, but Jim only agreed to talk if we promised to transcribe it. I hope it was worth the extra work!

LOL. I actually prefer to READ interviews. Love that Jim asked you to transcribe it LOL>

Same here—I'm so not into this video-only trend.

Online pg1067

  • Posts: 12433
  • Gender: Male
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2631 on: September 29, 2022, 01:08:02 PM »
Great read, nicely done!  FWIW - I enjoy reading interviews so much more than listening to them.  Not sure I know why, maybe 'back in my day' that was the only option available

I know why (at least for me).  I can read through a 20-minute interview in about 5 minutes.  Even if you put video or audio on 1.5x, you're still stuck for however long it takes.
"There's a bass solo in a song called Metropolis where I do a bass solo."  John Myung

Offline SoundscapeMN

  • Posts: 6431
  • Gender: Male
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2632 on: September 29, 2022, 01:39:31 PM »
finally finished the Jeff Wagner book last week and posted a review on YouTube.

Very thorough stories; I think maybe the most informal part of it was learning the reasons all of the members left the band.

Offline devieira73

  • Posts: 2834
  • Gender: Male
  • Boldly go where no brazilian has gone before...
"one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind." (RIP Neil Armstrong)

Offline Samsara

  • Queensrÿche Biographer and Historian
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 8722
  • Gender: Male
  • Driving the nail into my head. Memory flows...
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2634 on: September 30, 2022, 09:33:43 AM »
Good questions. As a former reporter and in my heart always a journalist, I really appreciate someone who takes the time to review the material and ask the appropriate things. Well done.
Roads to Madness: The Touring History of Queensrÿche (1981-1997) - Out in May 2024!

www.roadstomadness.com

Offline RodrigoAltaf

  • Posts: 2687
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2635 on: September 30, 2022, 06:31:51 PM »
Good questions. As a former reporter and in my heart always a journalist, I really appreciate someone who takes the time to review the material and ask the appropriate things. Well done.

 Much appreciated! I'm always mindful f not asking questions that were made a million times before...

Offline nick_z

  • Posts: 3650
  • Gender: Male
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2636 on: October 04, 2022, 06:37:01 AM »
finally finished the Jeff Wagner book last week and posted a review on YouTube.

Very thorough stories; I think maybe the most informal part of it was learning the reasons all of the members left the band.

Finally got around to reading it too. Excellent read. Very engaging in the way the story is told - you can tell there is deep connection and appreciation there.

Offline Samsara

  • Queensrÿche Biographer and Historian
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 8722
  • Gender: Male
  • Driving the nail into my head. Memory flows...
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2637 on: October 04, 2022, 08:23:48 AM »
Jeff and I have talked at length about the book. There is absolutely nothing but love there. He was the absolute PERFECT person to write this and I'm so glad he did.
Roads to Madness: The Touring History of Queensrÿche (1981-1997) - Out in May 2024!

www.roadstomadness.com

Offline nick_z

  • Posts: 3650
  • Gender: Male
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2638 on: October 04, 2022, 10:01:20 AM »
Very cool that you got to talk to him about the book. As fellow music writers, it must be especially nice to exchange thoughts on each other's work.

The book really does feel like a cohesive, well-told story of the band. I've been a fan for a relatively long time (early 90s), but other than keeping track of all the line-up changes, I didn't know a whole lot about the actual history. Inside Out was the first album bought as a fan, and I recall they had switched to Massacre for the European release. I wasn't aware at the time of the big disappointment that had come from the sudden lack of support for Parallels. Reading  how that happened - and so suddenly! - was pretty sad. And heartbreaking for the band.

Love how candid the quotes from the band members (current and former) are. There's a lot of positivity (together with the obvious spells of disappointment) which is nice. Matheos sure is an interesting and fascinating character. Another takeaway is that Joey Vera seems like an incredibly nice person - at least he comes across that way  :)

Offline Samsara

  • Queensrÿche Biographer and Historian
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 8722
  • Gender: Male
  • Driving the nail into my head. Memory flows...
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2639 on: October 04, 2022, 10:08:59 AM »
Jeff is a class act and yeah, it was cool talking about our books. He told me about his process with the FW bio, and I told him the skinny on just how much material was mine in the QR book, how we split things up, and how to figure out what I wrote (which was a lot more than I was given credit for). I'd love to do a project with Jeff one day. Probably won't happen, but he's a storyteller, and I love working with people who get that aspect of writing.

Here's hoping Fates surfaces again some day!  :metal

Roads to Madness: The Touring History of Queensrÿche (1981-1997) - Out in May 2024!

www.roadstomadness.com

Offline wolfking

  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 46256
  • Gender: Male
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2640 on: October 14, 2022, 04:27:42 AM »
I checked both the A-Z and Kings of Mercia.  The A-Z sounded decent buy I didn't make it through the whole thing.  The Down to the Wire rip off right off the bat made the laugh.

I thought the Kings of Mercia was quite decent actually.  Nothing new or flash but quite easy listening.  Overland makes this pretty nice.
Everyone else, except Wolfking is wrong.

Offline nick_z

  • Posts: 3650
  • Gender: Male
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2641 on: October 14, 2022, 08:36:22 PM »
I checked both the A-Z and Kings of Mercia.  The A-Z sounded decent buy I didn't make it through the whole thing.  The Down to the Wire rip off right off the bat made the laugh.

I thought the Kings of Mercia was quite decent actually.  Nothing new or flash but quite easy listening.  Overland makes this pretty nice.

You are not wrong about the Down to the Wire, um, tribute  :biggrin:

I have to say, I really like the A-Z album...I actually bought it. It's catchy and musically very interesting, with lots of cool things thrown in. Love Zonder and Alder on it, of course, but I think everyone's performance is great. Tasty keyboards and bass/guitar playing.

I haven't spent enough time with Kings of Mercia, so I'm not sure how I feel about it yet. First impression was pleasant, but it didn't strike me as "especially special". The vocals and the playing are very good, but I didn't find it as intriguing as the A-Z record. I'll revisit for sure, though.

Offline SoundscapeMN

  • Posts: 6431
  • Gender: Male
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2642 on: October 30, 2022, 01:18:20 PM »
Jeff Wagner was on "The Color of Air" with Greg Massi of maudlin of the Well/Kayo Dot talking about the book and his podcast, Radical Research

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0L9dYXhgGRXzDvvrV1YehV

Hunter Ginn actually was also on the next episode just shared this weekend.

Offline WardySI

  • Posts: 823
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2643 on: October 30, 2022, 07:32:56 PM »
Jeff Wagner was on "The Color of Air" with Greg Massi of maudlin of the Well/Kayo Dot talking about the book and his podcast, Radical Research

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0L9dYXhgGRXzDvvrV1YehV

Hunter Ginn actually was also on the next episode just shared this weekend.


Oh thanks for the heads up will def check in on this discussion.
Am just into the last quarter of the book now super good read...

Offline SoundscapeMN

  • Posts: 6431
  • Gender: Male
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2644 on: November 10, 2022, 03:18:29 PM »
https://twitter.com/realrayalder/status/1590766882273263617

Quote
Ray Alder
@realrayalder
So, umm. The new solo album is finished. Now we wait…. 🎤⏰
12:02 PM · Nov 10, 2022
·Twitter for iPhone

Offline WardySI

  • Posts: 823
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2645 on: November 10, 2022, 07:22:04 PM »
Sweet!

Offline abydos

  • DT.net
  • Posts: 3748
  • Gender: Male
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2646 on: March 13, 2023, 08:58:05 AM »
They released a new Kings of Mercia single and video this month which I like quite a bit more than the rest that I heard. It reminds me a lot of Fates' Firefly.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFQi-I259Uk

Jim has a really short but very sweet and tasteful solo in it.

Online pg1067

  • Posts: 12433
  • Gender: Male
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2647 on: March 13, 2023, 09:51:03 AM »
What exactly is the point of this part of the title of this thread:  "v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around"?
"There's a bass solo in a song called Metropolis where I do a bass solo."  John Myung

Offline Evermind

  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 16230
  • Gender: Male
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2648 on: March 13, 2023, 10:03:15 AM »
What exactly is the point of this part of the title of this thread:  "v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around"?

Elsydeon is the OP, and then we had this exchange back in the thread.

Maybe a mod can update the thread title?  Elsydeon hasn’t been around in almost a couple of years.

Your wish is my command. Had to shorten due to technical limitations.
This first band is Soen very cool swingy jazz fusion kinda stuff.

Offline Samsara

  • Queensrÿche Biographer and Historian
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 8722
  • Gender: Male
  • Driving the nail into my head. Memory flows...
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2649 on: March 13, 2023, 11:31:47 AM »
https://twitter.com/realrayalder/status/1590766882273263617

Quote
Ray Alder
@realrayalder
So, umm. The new solo album is finished. Now we wait…. 🎤⏰
12:02 PM · Nov 10, 2022
·Twitter for iPhone

This is great news. Guessing we should be seeing something about a release date in the next month or so. Guessing a June release maybe?
Roads to Madness: The Touring History of Queensrÿche (1981-1997) - Out in May 2024!

www.roadstomadness.com

Offline WardySI

  • Posts: 823
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2650 on: March 13, 2023, 06:44:46 PM »
Fantastic can't wait to hear what Ray has in store for us his last one was exceptional and A-Z was the shit \m/

Regards new Kings Of Mercia track above, do find it an odd choice for a single tbh, but dig the song and agree very reminiscent of latter-day Fates.  I'd say has a Darkness In A Different Light era vibe while something like Set The World On Fire has that Seven Stars kinda feel?

Fer my ears anyway ;)

Offline nick_z

  • Posts: 3650
  • Gender: Male
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2651 on: April 07, 2023, 07:12:00 AM »
Here's the new single from Ray's solo album II:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAtTyoNWjxo

Pretty cool, moody song...do we know the line-up on this?

Offline WardySI

  • Posts: 823
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2652 on: April 07, 2023, 07:28:30 AM »
Thanks heaps for that nick...

Sounds fucking brilliant! :metal

Online ozzy554

  • Posts: 1453
  • Gender: Male
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2653 on: April 07, 2023, 08:32:47 AM »
Here's the new single from Ray's solo album II:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAtTyoNWjxo

Pretty cool, moody song...do we know the line-up on this?

this is from the Pre-order page on the Inside out website

"Longtime Fates Warning frontman Ray Alder returns with his sophomore solo album on InsideOutMusic. Encompassing 9 melodic, yet modernly heavy new songs created with assistance from guitarists Mike Abdow (Fates Warning touring member) and Tony Hernando (Lords Of Black) as well as drummer Craig Anderson (Ignite, Crescent Shield), “II” was mixed by Simone Mularoni (Rhapsody, Michael Romeo, DGM)"

Don't know if anybody else is on there especially since no bassist is listed .
Do you read Sutter Cane?

Offline abydos

  • DT.net
  • Posts: 3748
  • Gender: Male
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2654 on: April 07, 2023, 09:30:15 AM »
I really like this song, made me look forward to the album. I just love how Ray's tone sounds and how his voice matured.

Offline emtee

  • Posts: 2837
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2655 on: April 07, 2023, 09:52:35 AM »
Excellent! Just love his voice.

Offline Samsara

  • Queensrÿche Biographer and Historian
  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 8722
  • Gender: Male
  • Driving the nail into my head. Memory flows...
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2656 on: April 07, 2023, 10:08:29 AM »
Absolutely killer track. Wonderful moodiness, and then a couple kicks to the face at points. Ray hit a homerun with this track for sure. I tweeted at him asking if Mike or Tony wrote the music to it. The solo sounds like Mike.

Really great launch of II. Looking forward to the record.
Roads to Madness: The Touring History of Queensrÿche (1981-1997) - Out in May 2024!

www.roadstomadness.com

Online TAC

  • DTF.org Alumni
  • ****
  • Posts: 74076
  • Gender: Male
  • Arthritic Metal Horns
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2657 on: April 07, 2023, 06:08:18 PM »
I mean, the song is ok, I guess.
would have thought the same thing but seeing the OP was TAC i immediately thought Maiden or DT related
Winger Theater Forums........or WTF.  ;D
TAC got a higher score than me in the electronic round? Honestly, can I just drop out now? :lol

Offline T-ski

  • Posts: 2914
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2658 on: April 07, 2023, 06:54:24 PM »
Love the new song!
Is all that we see or seem, but a dream within a dream?

Offline abydos

  • DT.net
  • Posts: 3748
  • Gender: Male
Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Elsydeon hasn’t been around
« Reply #2659 on: April 12, 2023, 05:35:04 AM »
I've been playing the song pretty much 10-20 times per day since and it's getting better. I absolutely love the guitar solo and how the song escalates towards the end.