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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #245 on: August 15, 2013, 06:02:20 AM »
Actually, didn't Arch/Matheos come out on the same day as ADToE?
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #246 on: August 15, 2013, 06:03:52 AM »
Yeah, I thought it was September.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #247 on: August 15, 2013, 07:16:19 AM »
Funny then that this is being released the week before and after Dream Theater.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #248 on: August 16, 2013, 11:17:48 AM »
Tuesday they are going to stream a track from the new album!

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #249 on: August 16, 2013, 12:43:01 PM »
you can hear a new track here...

https://www.sun103.com/pages/eleventhhour.html

starts at the 26:30 mark.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #250 on: August 16, 2013, 12:56:38 PM »
you can hear a new track here...

https://www.sun103.com/pages/eleventhhour.html

starts at the 26:30 mark.


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« Reply #251 on: August 16, 2013, 12:59:41 PM »
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #252 on: August 16, 2013, 02:14:30 PM »
Ahh, i'm about to listen.  The 9-year drought of no new FW material is about to come to an end in a matter of seconds!
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #253 on: August 16, 2013, 03:50:02 PM »
I have a very, very good feeling I know what will be Number One in my personal Top 10 Albums of the Year list this year. :hefdaddy :hefdaddy :metal :metal

I noticed that Ray sounds much better on this song than he did on the last Redemption album, or at least what I've heard off that album. Perhaps he finally took heed of his smoking and has started taking better care of himself?
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #254 on: August 16, 2013, 03:59:10 PM »
Haven't really put this piece into a proper perspective (after all I have barely listened to 3rd millennium FW), but the song sounded quite cool  :tup
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #255 on: August 16, 2013, 04:01:25 PM »
Listening now... nice intro.  Nice riff (like a mini- ITNOG riff).

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« Reply #256 on: August 16, 2013, 04:03:43 PM »
I don't know what song you're listening to since I already have the album, but the new album has really rekindled my love of Fates Warning.  I can't imagine a Fates fan being anything other than really happy with this album - except that we had to wait this long for it.
     

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« Reply #257 on: August 16, 2013, 04:05:11 PM »
I don't know what song you're listening to since I already have the album, but the new album has really rekindled my love of Fates Warning.  I can't imagine a Fates fan being anything other than really happy with this album - except that we had to wait this long for it.

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« Reply #258 on: August 16, 2013, 04:12:39 PM »
I'm not trying to be a jerk, I'm trying to get others excited.

Into the Black wouldn't be on my top 5 songs of the album honestly.  If you like that, you'll love the album.
     

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« Reply #259 on: August 16, 2013, 05:09:49 PM »
I like this song, I like it a lot.  It does remind me a bit of a mix of FWX, Disconnected and a little of the older stuff.  Great long instrumental section, and it's so amazing to hear the Matheos/Aresti guitar team in action again.  Ray sounds great too.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #260 on: August 16, 2013, 05:14:45 PM »
I noticed that Ray sounds much better on this song than he did on the last Redemption album, or at least what I've heard off that album. Perhaps he finally took heed of his smoking and has started taking better care of himself?

It's astonishing that a professional singer would smoke. I know many do, but it seems like such a huge liability. Oh well, either way, we are getting new FW.

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« Reply #261 on: August 16, 2013, 05:18:13 PM »
I find it surprising the number of singers that do smoke.  Seems like it's playing career suicide every time they smoke.

It has taken it's toll on Ray though, but credit where it's due, he sounds the best here than he has in a long time.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #262 on: August 16, 2013, 06:43:28 PM »
I find it surprising the number of singers that do smoke.  Seems like it's playing career suicide every time they smoke.

It has taken it's toll on Ray though, but credit where it's due, he sounds the best here than he has in a long time.

Indeed. Is it possible that he might have actually quit smoking and started taking better care of his voice?
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #263 on: August 16, 2013, 09:31:26 PM »
Yeah, perhaps.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #264 on: August 16, 2013, 10:15:22 PM »
Just listened to my first new Fates Warning song in nine years.  My reaction:   :omg:

I like it.  I like it a lot!
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #265 on: August 16, 2013, 10:40:16 PM »
As Mason said, if you like this track... just wait.
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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #266 on: August 17, 2013, 10:10:29 PM »
Well I LOVE this track so I'm going to assume that I'll love the album. Can not wait!
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« Reply #267 on: August 18, 2013, 03:42:33 AM »
As Mason said, if you like this track... just wait.

This is promising.  To be honest, I really love the track, but if Nick and Mason said it was one of the best on the album, I think I'd be a little disappointed.  With this being rated as a middle tier or lower songs, it does seem very good news for the album.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #268 on: August 18, 2013, 03:49:08 AM »
I just can't get into Fates Warning. The song wasn't bad, but it didn't quite do anything for me. That's how it is with most of their songs. The others are just boring. I'll wait for new Redemption whenever that may be.

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« Reply #269 on: August 18, 2013, 04:12:29 AM »
I can see how people wouldn't be able to get into the band.  They are pretty unaccessible and are an acquired taste really. 

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« Reply #270 on: August 18, 2013, 08:08:25 AM »
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« Reply #271 on: August 18, 2013, 10:34:43 AM »
I can see how people wouldn't be able to get into the band.  They are pretty unaccessible and are an acquired taste really.

Thats how it was with me.  I got into OSI first because of Portnoy and Moore.  Decided to get the FW discs with direct DT connections (Parallels, Perfect Symmetry, and Disconnected) and still couldn't get into them.  Disconnected kinda clicked with me but it is one of the more different sounding of the FW albums.  Pretty soon the others fell in place for me. 

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« Reply #272 on: August 18, 2013, 10:56:59 AM »
Listened to the song some more - so catchy and awesome, can't wait for the album!

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #273 on: August 18, 2013, 10:57:40 AM »
I can see how people wouldn't be able to get into the band.  They are pretty unaccessible and are an acquired taste really.

It's weird because, having followed them from The Spectre Within, it's been a really wild ride.   But it's almost as if they grew along similar lines to mine...and that makes them very personal.   

They started of very Iron Maiden-esque (which I was really into at the time)...then No Exit had some of their heaviest material yet (which I was into at the time)...then they went a bit more for the Rush angle (which I was still pretty into at the time).    The only divergence came with Parallels, which everyone else holds up as their masterpiece.   Parallels came out at a time when I felt a lot of bands were "wimping out" and I was getting more into Slayer, Sepultura, Entombed...and a lot of other underground death metal.   So I just wasn't digging it at all....but it did eventually grow on me.  Always liked Life In Still Water and Eleventh Hour.   But I was always happy that Eye To Eye never became a radio hit...because that is the stuff they would have continued to write if it had....and that really would have KILLED the band.   I/O was just so/so, and I figured the band was done.   But then I got a advance copy of APSOG when I was working in a CD shop and I was just so completely blown away...   Everyone got so sick of me playing that CD.   But I played it in store EVERY DAY for MONTHS.    It was just the right album at the right time for me.  I was at the peak of my prog geekiness...and it was the ultimate prog album.     I didn't like Disconnected as well *at first*, but it grew on me, and right now I think that is my all-time favorite FW album.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #274 on: August 18, 2013, 11:38:08 AM »
I just can't get into Fates Warning. The song wasn't bad, but it didn't quite do anything for me. That's how it is with most of their songs. The others are just boring. I'll wait for new Redemption whenever that may be.

Its funny, since its the exact opposite for me.

I just can not get into Redemption. I anxiously went out and bought Fullness of time and origins of ruin when they were released. I really wanted to like them but despite many spins, it just was not happening

FW on the other hand is in my top 5 favorite bands in existence. To each his own though.

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« Reply #275 on: August 18, 2013, 12:20:39 PM »
I just can't get into Fates Warning. The song wasn't bad, but it didn't quite do anything for me. That's how it is with most of their songs. The others are just boring. I'll wait for new Redemption whenever that may be.

Its funny, since its the exact opposite for me.

I just can not get into Redemption. I anxiously went out and bought Fullness of time and origins of ruin when they were released. I really wanted to like them but despite many spins, it just was not happening

FW on the other hand is in my top 5 favorite bands in existence. To each his own though.

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Re: The Official Fates Warning thread v. Darkness in a Different Light
« Reply #276 on: August 18, 2013, 12:58:11 PM »
I can see how people wouldn't be able to get into the band.  They are pretty unaccessible and are an acquired taste really.

Thats how it was with me.  I got into OSI first because of Portnoy and Moore.  Decided to get the FW discs with direct DT connections (Parallels, Perfect Symmetry, and Disconnected) and still couldn't get into them.  Disconnected kinda clicked with me but it is one of the more different sounding of the FW albums.  Pretty soon the others fell in place for me.
That will probably help me to get into FW. I... like it, but it hasn't clicked with me yet.
As for that new song, the quality of that stream bit is so bad... I'll wait until Tuesday.

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« Reply #277 on: August 18, 2013, 03:09:39 PM »
The song is very good. Sound quality was awful so cannot really say a lot about it. Can't wait for this album to be released and listen to it :-) Nine years waiting for a new Fates Warning album  :rollin
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« Reply #278 on: August 18, 2013, 05:11:23 PM »
I really liked the track, but it reminded me a lot of the above average material from FWX.    I hope the rest of the material is a little less "song structured".   

I tend to like FW quite a bit more when they "meander" for the sake of setting a mood.   Jim brings an almost "new age" approach to prog that I really enjoy (and kindof hit its peak with APSOG and DC) so I'm hoping for a bit more of that. 
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« Reply #279 on: August 18, 2013, 05:13:36 PM »
If this album's more along the lines of FWX, I'll be happy. Very happy.